The Iron Throne, the V ASOIAF Game (Sign Up - Rules Thread) (Turn Open)

[Lumine]

Any news on questions or should I resend?

If I haven't replied to outstanding ones, do resend!

[ASPN]

So uh. As much as it pains me to say this. I've lost my spark with these games as of late and not giving it the time they deserve. So uh yeah. Gonna back out for now.

[Garlan Gunter]

Thanks for playing Dr_Nov! I shall cross my fingers for your return some day, most of my military successes have been yours so far...!

[windjammer]

Turn closed?

[Lumine]

Turn closed?

Well, all players have sent orders. I know some of you are still debating an important move for the turn, so this turn ends in exactly 24 hours.

So uh. As much as it pains me to say this. I've lost my spark with these games as of late and not giving it the time they deserve. So uh yeah. Gonna back out for now.

Sorry to hear that, Dr_Novella! You've been a remarkable player, and I really hope you'll return to play one of these games in the near future.

[windjammer]

So I guess Viserys and the Robert bastard are the frontrunners right ?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

So I guess Viserys and the Robert bastard are the frontrunners right ?

Viserys, Edric, and Tommen are in a tight three-way battle, I think.  Edric has legitimacy and the broadest coalition, Viserys has the best strategic position and will likely take KL soon, and Tommen has manpower and money.

[Lumine]

Turn closed.

[windjammer]

So I guess Viserys and the Robert bastard are the frontrunners right ?

Viserys, Edric, and Tommen are in a tight three-way battle, I think.  Edric has legitimacy and the broadest coalition, Viserys has the best strategic position and will likely take KL soon, and Tommen has manpower and money.

Well yes you're good for summarizing things .

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

So I guess Viserys and the Robert bastard are the frontrunners right ?

Viserys, Edric, and Tommen are in a tight three-way battle, I think.  Edric has legitimacy and the broadest coalition, Viserys has the best strategic position and will likely take KL soon, and Tommen has manpower and money.

Well yes you're good for summarizing things .

I do what I can

[Dereich]

So I guess Viserys and the Robert bastard are the frontrunners right ?

Viserys, Edric, and Tommen are in a tight three-way battle, I think.  Edric has legitimacy and the broadest coalition, Viserys has the best strategic position and will likely take KL soon, and Tommen has manpower and money.

That is VERY CLEARLY not the case; to view Edric as legitimate ignores the very very strong stigma against bastardy in Westeros. It's well established that only the monarch can legitimize a bastard and there has been no suggestion that Robert ever legitimized Edric. The realm (partially excepting Dorne) has refused in the past to treat bastards as real claimants for good reasons; accepting them debases marriage (wrecking political alliances and trashing promises to the Faith), they are living reminders of their lordly parent's sins and failures as people, they are are themselves treated by society at large as an untrustworthy and devious (see Snow, Ramsay/Jon), and perhaps most importantly the LAST time a royal bastard was legitimized it led to FIVE CIVIL WARS, wars that living Westerosi have fought in.

If you want to use the House Baratheon claim, don't think Tommen is Robert's son, and think that Renly's reign was anywhere close to having legitimacy the only possible claimant is Shireen. Of the three I'd argue that Edric has the least legitimacy; both Viserys and Tommen (supposedly) were legitimate and acknowledged offspring of royal marriages.

[Lumine]

The end of turn will be up tonight! And we are in for a decisive turn, gentlemen.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

So I guess Viserys and the Robert bastard are the frontrunners right ?

Viserys, Edric, and Tommen are in a tight three-way battle, I think.  Edric has legitimacy and the broadest coalition, Viserys has the best strategic position and will likely take KL soon, and Tommen has manpower and money.

That is VERY CLEARLY not the case; to view Edric as legitimate ignores the very very strong stigma against bastardy in Westeros. It's well established that only the monarch can legitimize a bastard and there has been no suggestion that Robert ever legitimized Edric. The realm (partially excepting Dorne) has refused in the past to treat bastards as real claimants for good reasons; accepting them debases marriage (wrecking political alliances and trashing promises to the Faith), they are living reminders of their lordly parent's sins and failures as people, they are are themselves treated by society at large as an untrustworthy and devious (see Snow, Ramsay/Jon), and perhaps most importantly the LAST time a royal bastard was legitimized it led to FIVE CIVIL WARS, wars that living Westerosi have fought in.

If you want to use the House Baratheon claim, don't think Tommen is Robert's son, and think that Renly's reign was anywhere close to having legitimacy the only possible claimant is Shireen. Of the three I'd argue that Edric has the least legitimacy; both Viserys and Tommen (supposedly) were legitimate and acknowledged offspring of royal marriages.

No one can hear your mad ramblings in that dungeon you're wasting away in

[Enduro]

The end of turn will be up tonight! And we are in for a decisive turn, gentlemen.

Ok, well, I'll just say that I've had a great time playing. I thank everyone for being great players. If any member of family is alive after this turn, I might play them.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

The end of turn will be up tonight! And we are in for a decisive turn, gentlemen.

Ok, well, I'll just say that I've had a great time playing. I thank everyone for being great players. If any member of family is alive after this turn, I might play them.

Some might not be available, to be fair

[Enduro]

The end of turn will be up tonight! And we are in for a decisive turn, gentlemen.

Ok, well, I'll just say that I've had a great time playing. I thank everyone for being great players. If any member of family is alive after this turn, I might play them.

Some might not be available, to be fair

Even ignoring I have to play Arya's direwolf, and just go around adding wolves to my pack and eating Lannisters. I'll play (that actually sounds pretty fun)

[Swedge]

I'm very excited to see where we end up! Best of luck everyone

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I'm very excited to see where we end up! Best of luck everyone

This, except for folks whose interests run counter to my own

[Enduro]

Robb was my favorite character.

*sniff*

Anyway, I'll be playing Catelyn again, and I'll be killing every Lannister in existence. Not even Tyrion will survive. (Ok, maybe Tyrion will survive)

[Swedge]

Robb was my favorite character.

*sniff*

Anyway, I'll be playing Catelyn again, and I'll be killing every Lannister in existence. Not even Tyrion will survive. (Ok, maybe Tyrion will survive)

Rest in peace sweet Robb, thou shall be missed..

Glad you're going to continue playing Enduro, you're always fun to see in action

[Lumine]

Yes, sadly Varys, Robb and Edmure all leave us. I'll leave the turn as it is because I'm tired, tomorrow I'll update the maps and army sizes.

If there is no Tully player (the Blackfish, although the role is sort of minor now), I'll just leave Enduro to handle both North and Tully Riverlands as Catelyn.

Also, Badgate will be joining as Asha Greyjoy!

[badgate]

*Mic drop*

Rest in Peace, my dear uncle Vic

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

*Mic drop*

Rest in Peace, my dear uncle Vic

Welcome back Badgate!

[Emmon Frey]

What an ignominious end for Edmure

[Blair]

another victory for House Tyrell lol