OH: More Money Stuff (August)

[ShadowRocket]

OH Supreme Court Justice Bill O'Neill is also claiming that Cordray is planning on running:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/19/richard-cordray-ohio-governor-2018-240729

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

OH Supreme Court Justice Bill O'Neill is also claiming that Cordray is planning on running:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/19/richard-cordray-ohio-governor-2018-240729

[BuckeyeNut]

OH Supreme Court Justice Bill O'Neill is also claiming that Cordray is planning on running:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/19/richard-cordray-ohio-governor-2018-240729

I believe O'Neill more than Larkin...

[Technocracy Timmy]

What does he have to lose? He's only got a year left at the cfpb and Trump is definitely not keeping him on. Plus he's a relatively young guy at 58 (for a political public servant at least).

I'd be more surprised if he chose not to run.

[Rjjr77]

OH Supreme Court Justice Bill O'Neill is also claiming that Cordray is planning on running:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/19/richard-cordray-ohio-governor-2018-240729

I believe O'Neill more than Larkin...

Still don't buy it

[Technocracy Timmy]

OH Supreme Court Justice Bill O'Neill is also claiming that Cordray is planning on running:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/19/richard-cordray-ohio-governor-2018-240729

I believe O'Neill more than Larkin...

Still don't buy it

Why are you so skeptical on Cordray's run? The guy has nothing else on his plate if he opts not to run for Governor since there's no way in hell Trump keeps him on as cfpb head. Plus you've been saying back in March that he only had one month left to jump into the race.

[Rjjr77]

OH Supreme Court Justice Bill O'Neill is also claiming that Cordray is planning on running:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/19/richard-cordray-ohio-governor-2018-240729

I believe O'Neill more than Larkin...

Still don't buy it

Why are you so skeptical on Cordray's run? The guy has nothing else on his plate if he opts not to run for Governor since there's no way in hell Trump keeps him on as cfpb head. Plus you've been saying back in March that he only had one month left to jump into the race.

because i think its too late for him to jump in the race, I think the deadline has passed for him. They are talking about him declaring in september? too late...

I also think this is Bill O'Neill being Bill O'Neill, hes never been loved by the party as a whole, and said he'd run if Cordray wouldnt, but it looks like an excuse for him not to have to hold up that statement.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

OH Supreme Court Justice Bill O'Neill is also claiming that Cordray is planning on running:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/19/richard-cordray-ohio-governor-2018-240729

I believe O'Neill more than Larkin...

Still don't buy it

Why are you so skeptical on Cordray's run? The guy has nothing else on his plate if he opts not to run for Governor since there's no way in hell Trump keeps him on as cfpb head. Plus you've been saying back in March that he only had one month left to jump into the race.

because i think its too late for him to jump in the race, I think the deadline has passed for him. They are talking about him declaring in september? too late...

I also think this is Bill O'Neill being Bill O'Neill, hes never been loved by the party as a whole, and said he'd run if Cordray wouldnt, but it looks like an excuse for him not to have to hold up that statement.

I agree, but hope springs eternal.

[Technocracy Timmy]

How is it too late though? The general election is over 15 months away from today.

[BuckeyeNut]

While I believe O'Neill over Larkin, it would be late for Cordray to enter in the Fall and Cordray has the making of a DC lifer -- even if he is in Grove City a couple times a month. I would be very unsurprised if he wasn't angling for a proper cabinet position in the next Democratic administration.

Could he still get in? Yes. Does he feel bound to fulfill TD's vision? In all due respect, no.

[Ye We Can]

I would love to see a Husted V Cordray race.

[Technocracy Timmy]

While I believe O'Neill over Larkin, it would be late for Cordray to enter in the Fall and Cordray has the making of a DC lifer -- even if he is in Grove City a couple times a month. I would be very unsurprised if he wasn't angling for a proper cabinet position in the next Democratic administration.

Could he still get in? Yes. Does he feel bound to fulfill TD's vision? In all due respect, no.

A Democratic victory is no shoe in (despite what some like to think) for the 2020 Presidential eleciton so Cordray could easily be waiting until the ripe old age of 65 before he gets into the next Democratic cabinet circa 2025. I don't see that being something he wants to risk.

He'll run for Governor in the meantime. There's no serious reason for him not to jump into the race besides some gut instinct that it's too late for him to jump in even though his window is still clearly open.

[Rjjr77]

How is it too late though? The general election is over 15 months away from today.

Ohio elections start early, if he were to declare in September, that gives him only 7 months till primary voting begins, it also throws wrenches into democrats moving down tickets.
While that seems like plenty of time to the lay person, it means that a lot of the staffers, fundraisers, and other politicos will be already in jobs by now. Heck statewide unions have endorsed all ready.

[BuckeyeNut]

How is it too late though? The general election is over 15 months away from today.

Ohio elections start early, if he were to declare in September, that gives him only 7 months till primary voting begins, it also throws wrenches into democrats moving down tickets.
While that seems like plenty of time to the lay person, it means that a lot of the staffers, fundraisers, and other politicos will be already in jobs by now. Heck statewide unions have endorsed all ready.

This.

That said, Sutton would lose a lot of support if Cordray got in. It would give Whaley reason's to stay in Dayton and wait for Turner to retire, and give Pillich reason to drop down to run for Treasurer again. Not sure what Schiavoni would due. I don't think he really wants to be AG, and he can't run for Mayor of Youngstown or Ryan's seat.

[Badger]

Off the top of my head, I wonder if Pilich might abandon her bid to run for Treasurer instead, especially if Cordray doesn't run and possibly bump  one of the stronger grooming at Oriole candidates down to run for a lower State office. It sounds like there's some weakness in the current potential candidates, and the impression I get is Democrats at least appreciate her doing as relatively well against Mandel as she did for years ago. It's probably not too late to switch gears, and Lord knows she have a better chance than she's doing running for governor right now. Thoughts?

[BuckeyeNut]

Off the top of my head, I wonder if Pilich might abandon her bid to run for Treasurer instead, especially if Cordray doesn't run and possibly bump  one of the stronger grooming at Oriole candidates down to run for a lower State office. It sounds like there's some weakness in the current potential candidates, and the impression I get is Democrats at least appreciate her doing as relatively well against Mandel as she did for years ago. It's probably not too late to switch gears, and Lord knows she have a better chance than she's doing running for governor right now. Thoughts?

I think it's more likely she drops if Cordray does get in, but even if he doesn't, I could still see it happening. I appreciate that the current candidate for Treasurer means ODP isn't running an all white slate, but he lost his one run for office, and unlike Dettelbach, he has no know fundraising chops to compensate. Pillich would be welcomed by many if she were to drop down.

It probably depends on the money and how likely the current candidates consider Cordray's candidacy (tongue twister). The mid-year fundraising reports which are due by the end of the month, should be telling. Pillich benefited from starting with the most cash on hand of all the Democrats, but if she has a comparatively lackluster showing, I wouldn't be surprised if she shifts gears.

[Rjjr77]

Off the top of my head, I wonder if Pilich might abandon her bid to run for Treasurer instead, especially if Cordray doesn't run and possibly bump  one of the stronger grooming at Oriole candidates down to run for a lower State office. It sounds like there's some weakness in the current potential candidates, and the impression I get is Democrats at least appreciate her doing as relatively well against Mandel as she did for years ago. It's probably not too late to switch gears, and Lord knows she have a better chance than she's doing running for governor right now. Thoughts?

I think it's more likely she drops if Cordray does get in, but even if he doesn't, I could still see it happening. I appreciate that the current candidate for Treasurer means ODP isn't running an all white slate, but he lost his one run for office, and unlike Dettelbach, he has no know fundraising chops to compensate. Pillich would be welcomed by many if she were to drop down.

It probably depends on the money and how likely the current candidates consider Cordray's candidacy (tongue twister). The mid-year fundraising reports which are due by the end of the month, should be telling. Pillich benefited from starting with the most cash on hand of all the Democrats, but if she has a comparatively lackluster showing, I wouldn't be surprised if she shifts gears.

Pillich may be running for LG, as her Cincinnati base may be what decides this thing.

[BuckeyeNut]

Off the top of my head, I wonder if Pilich might abandon her bid to run for Treasurer instead, especially if Cordray doesn't run and possibly bump  one of the stronger grooming at Oriole candidates down to run for a lower State office. It sounds like there's some weakness in the current potential candidates, and the impression I get is Democrats at least appreciate her doing as relatively well against Mandel as she did for years ago. It's probably not too late to switch gears, and Lord knows she have a better chance than she's doing running for governor right now. Thoughts?

I think it's more likely she drops if Cordray does get in, but even if he doesn't, I could still see it happening. I appreciate that the current candidate for Treasurer means ODP isn't running an all white slate, but he lost his one run for office, and unlike Dettelbach, he has no know fundraising chops to compensate. Pillich would be welcomed by many if she were to drop down.

It probably depends on the money and how likely the current candidates consider Cordray's candidacy (tongue twister). The mid-year fundraising reports which are due by the end of the month, should be telling. Pillich benefited from starting with the most cash on hand of all the Democrats, but if she has a comparatively lackluster showing, I wouldn't be surprised if she shifts gears.

Pillich may be running for LG, as her Cincinnati base may be what decides this thing.

Pillich would be a decent LG, but she'd still have to drop soon so she could get on the ballot with Cordray, or whomever.

[Rjjr77]

Off the top of my head, I wonder if Pilich might abandon her bid to run for Treasurer instead, especially if Cordray doesn't run and possibly bump  one of the stronger grooming at Oriole candidates down to run for a lower State office. It sounds like there's some weakness in the current potential candidates, and the impression I get is Democrats at least appreciate her doing as relatively well against Mandel as she did for years ago. It's probably not too late to switch gears, and Lord knows she have a better chance than she's doing running for governor right now. Thoughts?

I think it's more likely she drops if Cordray does get in, but even if he doesn't, I could still see it happening. I appreciate that the current candidate for Treasurer means ODP isn't running an all white slate, but he lost his one run for office, and unlike Dettelbach, he has no know fundraising chops to compensate. Pillich would be welcomed by many if she were to drop down.

It probably depends on the money and how likely the current candidates consider Cordray's candidacy (tongue twister). The mid-year fundraising reports which are due by the end of the month, should be telling. Pillich benefited from starting with the most cash on hand of all the Democrats, but if she has a comparatively lackluster showing, I wouldn't be surprised if she shifts gears.

Pillich may be running for LG, as her Cincinnati base may be what decides this thing.

Pillich would be a decent LG, but she'd still have to drop soon so she could get on the ballot with Cordray, or whomever.

Wouldn't have to drop out until the filing deadline, which is what? January?

[Rjjr77]

How is it too late though? The general election is over 15 months away from today.

Ohio elections start early, if he were to declare in September, that gives him only 7 months till primary voting begins, it also throws wrenches into democrats moving down tickets.
While that seems like plenty of time to the lay person, it means that a lot of the staffers, fundraisers, and other politicos will be already in jobs by now. Heck statewide unions have endorsed all ready.

This.

That said, Sutton would lose a lot of support if Cordray got in. It would give Whaley reason's to stay in Dayton and wait for Turner to retire, and give Pillich reason to drop down to run for Treasurer again. Not sure what Schiavoni would due. I don't think he really wants to be AG, and he can't run for Mayor of Youngstown or Ryan's seat.

Multiple people have gotten into crowded races and cleared the field in many states and won. John Boozman and Rubio are just a few

Rubio was an incumbent senator, and Arkansas is not the same, I'm not the only one pointing out how Ohio elections are known for starting crazy early. I don't think he gets in, it appears too late, September would definitely be too late

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I'd like to ask, what exactly are Cordray's views?  All I really know about him is TD's timeline.

[BuckeyeNut]

State Rep. David Leland sat down for an interview with the Ohio Democratic Podcast this week. The podcast has a habit of interviewing candidates for statewide office before they announce, so he might run for Treasurer after all.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

State Rep. David Leland sat down for an interview with the Ohio Democratic Podcast this week. The podcast has a habit of interviewing candidates for statewide office before they announce, so he might run for Treasurer after all.

*fingers crossed*

[Rjjr77]

with the fundraising deadline coming up quick, any predictions?

[BuckeyeNut]

I'm reserving predictions until after we see the money.

In Other News: Sanders has cut a 30-second ad in support of the upcoming Issue 2, which fixes the amount of money state departments to pay for drugs to the reduced rate paid by the VA.

Also, Renacci will be joining Trump in Youngstown today. While I am reserving predictions, I wouldn't be too surprised if he wound up being a bit of a dark horse for the primary.