OH: More Money Stuff (August)

[PragmaticPopulist]

New Renacci ad. Looks bad from my eyes.

[Pessimistic Antineutrino]

New Renacci ad. Looks bad from my eyes.

>I'm a businessman not a career politician
>Member of the U.S. House of Representatives since 2011

[Blackacre]

New Renacci ad. Looks bad from my eyes.

>I'm a businessman not a career politician
>Member of the U.S. House of Representatives since 2011

I find it funny that members of congress first elected in the Tea Party wave are Washington insiders now

[Young Conservative]

New Renacci ad. Looks bad from my eyes.

I liked the ad's message.

[BuckeyeNut]

That ad's just weird

Edit: Also, Renacci's a fool if he thinks right to work is a winning issue in Ohio.

[Kingpoleon]

New Renacci ad. Looks bad from my eyes.

"We need a change from our popular Republican Governor." is a strange message for a Republican to run on.

[Rjjr77]

New Renacci ad. Looks bad from my eyes.

"We need a change from our popular Republican Governor." is a strange message for a Republican to run on.

Governor is no where near as popular as people think.

Edit- The ad is so bad.

[BuckeyeNut]

After a lot of posturing, including a recent debacle where the former Congressmen told reporters he had a big announcement to make Monday, former Congressman Kucinich has formally ruled out a run. While this is something that could have been assumed a while ago, it wasn't entirely a given. His big announcement? A coming endorsement of Issue 2.

[The Govanah Jake]

Damn. I really wanted a run from him.

[BuckeyeNut]

I'm still somewhat surprised the Dem's gubernatorial field never got any bigger, frankly.

[Rjjr77]

I'm still somewhat surprised the Dem's gubernatorial field never got any bigger, frankly.

I am too. We have some low tier, and some middle tier, but usually when you get a race with no top tier candidate you see people come out from all over. Where's the Jennifer Brunners, Nina Turners, Mike Colemans, Jay Williams,  heck someone like Marcy Kaptur could jump in and be the front runner.

[BuckeyeNut]

I'm still somewhat surprised the Dem's gubernatorial field never got any bigger, frankly.

I am too. We have some low tier, and some middle tier, but usually when you get a race with no top tier candidate you see people come out from all over. Where's the Jennifer Brunners, Nina Turners, Mike Colemans, Jay Williams,  heck someone like Marcy Kaptur could jump in and be the front runner.

Jennifer Brunner is the one I am most specifically surprised to see not running, but she was just elected judge last year, and that'd be something of a bad look. Maybe she's angling for State Supreme Court down the line.

I thank God for Nina Turner not running.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I'm still somewhat surprised the Dem's gubernatorial field never got any bigger, frankly.

I am too. We have some low tier, and some middle tier, but usually when you get a race with no top tier candidate you see people come out from all over. Where's the Jennifer Brunners, Nina Turners, Mike Colemans, Jay Williams,  heck someone like Marcy Kaptur could jump in and be the front runner.

Brunner is the only candidate on that list who'd even arguably be a step up from the folks running (and I'm not convinced that she'd be a better candidate than any of the current candidates aside from Sutton).

[Rjjr77]

I'm still somewhat surprised the Dem's gubernatorial field never got any bigger, frankly.

I am too. We have some low tier, and some middle tier, but usually when you get a race with no top tier candidate you see people come out from all over. Where's the Jennifer Brunners, Nina Turners, Mike Colemans, Jay Williams,  heck someone like Marcy Kaptur could jump in and be the front runner.

Brunner is the only candidate on that list who'd even arguably be a step up from the folks running (and I'm not convinced that she'd be a better candidate than any of the current candidates aside from Sutton).

I never said any of these would be a step up, but when you have a group of mid and lower tier candidates for governor, you expect a ton more in than just 4.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I'm still somewhat surprised the Dem's gubernatorial field never got any bigger, frankly.

I am too. We have some low tier, and some middle tier, but usually when you get a race with no top tier candidate you see people come out from all over. Where's the Jennifer Brunners, Nina Turners, Mike Colemans, Jay Williams,  heck someone like Marcy Kaptur could jump in and be the front runner.

Brunner is the only candidate on that list who'd even arguably be a step up from the folks running (and I'm not convinced that she'd be a better candidate than any of the current candidates aside from Sutton).

I never said any of these would be a step up, but when you have a group of mid and lower tier candidates for governor, you expect a ton more in than just 4.

Ah, I see what you mean.

[BuckeyeNut]

Since Mingo is running for Treasurer, there's no way he can run for re-elect, right? Even if he loses the primary to Sprauge?

[Kingpoleon]

I'm still somewhat surprised the Dem's gubernatorial field never got any bigger, frankly.

I am too. We have some low tier, and some middle tier, but usually when you get a race with no top tier candidate you see people come out from all over. Where's the Jennifer Brunners, Nina Turners, Mike Colemans, Jay Williams,  heck someone like Marcy Kaptur could jump in and be the front runner.

Brunner is the only candidate on that list who'd even arguably be a step up from the folks running (and I'm not convinced that she'd be a better candidate than any of the current candidates aside from Sutton).

I don't know - I think Jay Williams would do pretty well, if he had run.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I'm still somewhat surprised the Dem's gubernatorial field never got any bigger, frankly.

I am too. We have some low tier, and some middle tier, but usually when you get a race with no top tier candidate you see people come out from all over. Where's the Jennifer Brunners, Nina Turners, Mike Colemans, Jay Williams,  heck someone like Marcy Kaptur could jump in and be the front runner.

Brunner is the only candidate on that list who'd even arguably be a step up from the folks running (and I'm not convinced that she'd be a better candidate than any of the current candidates aside from Sutton).

I don't know - I think Jay Williams would do pretty well, if he had run.

I think he'd be a pretty weak statewide candidate, tbh.

[BuckeyeNut]

I'm still somewhat surprised the Dem's gubernatorial field never got any bigger, frankly.

I am too. We have some low tier, and some middle tier, but usually when you get a race with no top tier candidate you see people come out from all over. Where's the Jennifer Brunners, Nina Turners, Mike Colemans, Jay Williams,  heck someone like Marcy Kaptur could jump in and be the front runner.

Brunner is the only candidate on that list who'd even arguably be a step up from the folks running (and I'm not convinced that she'd be a better candidate than any of the current candidates aside from Sutton).

I don't know - I think Jay Williams would do pretty well, if he had run.

I think he'd be a pretty weak statewide candidate, tbh.

He'd have hurt Schiavoni, being 1: another man, and 2: another Youngstown-candidate.

We've had two crap polls, so it's hard to say how people are going, but Williams presumably would have captured a larger chunk of the Black vote than any of the current candidates are.

[Kingpoleon]

I'm still somewhat surprised the Dem's gubernatorial field never got any bigger, frankly.

I am too. We have some low tier, and some middle tier, but usually when you get a race with no top tier candidate you see people come out from all over. Where's the Jennifer Brunners, Nina Turners, Mike Colemans, Jay Williams,  heck someone like Marcy Kaptur could jump in and be the front runner.

Brunner is the only candidate on that list who'd even arguably be a step up from the folks running (and I'm not convinced that she'd be a better candidate than any of the current candidates aside from Sutton).

I don't know - I think Jay Williams would do pretty well, if he had run.

I think he'd be a pretty weak statewide candidate, tbh.

He'd have hurt Schiavoni, being 1: another man, and 2: another Youngstown-candidate.

We've had two crap polls, so it's hard to say how people are going, but Williams presumably would have captured a larger chunk of the Black vote than any of the current candidates are.

Precisely. Winning over Youngstown and African-Americans would be important, as would his amazing background in community development, commerce, and economic development. I think he might also win over younger voters.

That said, while he might have a slight lean in the primaries, I could never see him winning the general.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I'm still somewhat surprised the Dem's gubernatorial field never got any bigger, frankly.

I am too. We have some low tier, and some middle tier, but usually when you get a race with no top tier candidate you see people come out from all over. Where's the Jennifer Brunners, Nina Turners, Mike Colemans, Jay Williams,  heck someone like Marcy Kaptur could jump in and be the front runner.

Brunner is the only candidate on that list who'd even arguably be a step up from the folks running (and I'm not convinced that she'd be a better candidate than any of the current candidates aside from Sutton).

I don't know - I think Jay Williams would do pretty well, if he had run.

I think he'd be a pretty weak statewide candidate, tbh.

He'd have hurt Schiavoni, being 1: another man, and 2: another Youngstown-candidate.

We've had two crap polls, so it's hard to say how people are going, but Williams presumably would have captured a larger chunk of the Black vote than any of the current candidates are.

Precisely. Winning over Youngstown and African-Americans would be important, as would his amazing background in community development, commerce, and economic development. I think he might also win over younger voters.

That said, while he might have a slight lean in the primaries, I could never see him winning the general.

Why vote for someone who brings nothing to the table in terms of electability? 

[BuckeyeNut]

To be clear, I agree with X that Williams wouldn't be that good of a Gubernatorial candidate. The end result of his run would most likely be guaranteeing Sutton the nod.

If Schiavoni is elected Governor and Ryan vacates in 2020 -- lol -- then Williams would be a decent candidate for the 13th Congressional District. And even then, he'd have to deal with Capri Cafaro and maybe John Boccieri as well.

[Rjjr77]

To be clear, I agree with X that Williams wouldn't be that good of a Gubernatorial candidate. The end result of his run would most likely be guaranteeing Sutton the nod.

If Schiavoni is elected Governor and Ryan vacates in 2020 -- lol -- then Williams would be a decent candidate for the 13th Congressional District. And even then, he'd have to deal with Capri Cafaro and maybe John Boccieri as well.

I dont think Williams has the statewide network to win, I am surprised there arent more like him running though.

I assume he'd handle Cafaro pretty well, Boccieri would probably take him out though

[Kingpoleon]

Oh! To be clear, I don't think Williams would have a chance in the general.

[BuckeyeNut]

If it wasn't apparent before, Leland is all but definitely out as a candidate for Treasurer, since ODP Chairman Pepper basically recruited Richardson. While I still wish we were running someone with more experience, I've heard more good things about Richardson, and he evidently has very strong labor connections around the state.