UK's new surveillance law is freaking nuts

[dead0man]

link - random article from The Guardian

Some key "features":
1.mandate that ISPs keep a record of users metadata and where they went for the last 12 months
2.lots of people can look at it, dozens of different agencies
3.it's NOT about fighting terrorism, it's been brought to you by the fine folks at Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority (monitors labor rules in the agricultural sector)
4.of course there are protections to keep them from snooping on politicians, 'cause they special!


If you've ever bitched about the Patriot Act, this is worse.  And soon they'll be banning porn with women ejaculating and spanking.   ugggg UK, wtf is wrong with you?

[MaxQue]

Well, that's what you get when you elect right-wingers.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

I like how the thing you find most worrisome about authoritarian surveillance of an incredible caliber is losing access to certain kinds of porn(which is stupid. Banning sex acts involving menstruation? Why!? Cause its "icky" and taboo).

[IceAgeComing]

this is what you get when you elect tories - although Labour should have opposed this much, much more vocally that they did since its a poisonous bit of legislation that goes well, well beyond anything that the government should be doing.

The worst part is the ban on encryption that doesn't have a back door in it so the government can get a warrant to have a look at whatever someone has been saying: but not only is the whole process on getting a warrant or the fact that a warrant has been issued secret; but if a company says publically that they've had to weaken their security protocols because of a government warrant then they'd be breaking the law.  That sort of stuff is totally unworkable since no sensible company is going to change anything to comply with this law since if they poke a hole in their security for one government then everyone will want their own backdoor and suddenly iOS will have more holes in it than a block of emmenthal.  Its a law that's obviously been written by people with absolutely no knowledge of the topic and assumptions that things that can't be done can be done (having a way to let the government in to a secure device without making it much easier for bad people to get in) and with no regard for transparency - although looking at the Brexit negotiations, that shouldn't be a shock.

[Phony Moderate]

this is what you get when you elect tories - although Labour should have opposed this much, much more vocally that they did since its a poisonous bit of legislation that goes well, well beyond anything that the government should be doing.

Many in the Blairite faction of the party are (and have long been) enthusiastic about this kind of legislation, although curiously many of those same people claim to represent the 'non-statist' school of thought in the party.

[dead0man]

I like how the thing you find most worrisome about authoritarian surveillance of an incredible caliber is losing access to certain kinds of porn.

How did you possibly come to that conclusion?  The porn thing was an after thought....which is why it was right at the end and not mentioned in the title.  The porn thing is obviously horrible, but way less so than the other garbage.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

I like how the thing you find most worrisome about authoritarian surveillance of an incredible caliber is losing access to certain kinds of porn.

How did you possibly come to that conclusion?  The porn thing was an after thought....which is why it was right at the end and not mentioned in the title.  The porn thing is obviously horrible, but way less so than the other garbage.

Mostly because you didn't mention any of the other major problems.

[dead0man]

You missed the numbered part?

[Cory]

Freaking Redcoats.