The tipping point state is...

[The Mikado]

Wisconsin! Now that late-counting provisionals are in in PA, PA's margin has shrunk to ever-so-slightly narrower than WI's.

Tipping point state is an ultimately-meaningless stat, but it's fun nonetheless.

[Figueira]

Huh. I guess this gives me slightly more hope for Pennsylvania.

[Mr. Morden]

Atlas had it as WI for a while, but now it's back to PA.

[Mr. Morden]

Also of note: At least as of right now, it looks like the number of Stein votes in MI, PA, and WI is larger than Trump's margin of victory in all three states.  So if all the Stein voters had voted for Clinton, she'd now be president-elect.

[Shameless Lefty Hack]

Also of note: At least as of right now, it looks like the number of Stein votes in MI, PA, and WI is larger than Trump's margin of victory in all three states.  So if all the Stein voters had voted for Clinton, she'd now be president-elect.

Is the Green party's difference in performance over 2012 greater than Trump's margin?

Plus, you're ignoring the much larger number of people that stayed home in these states rather than vote Clinton vs. 2012, or heck, even vs. 2004. Those numbers are *much * larger than Trump's margin of victory.

[Mr. Morden]

Also of note: At least as of right now, it looks like the number of Stein votes in MI, PA, and WI is larger than Trump's margin of victory in all three states.  So if all the Stein voters had voted for Clinton, she'd now be president-elect.

Is the Green party's difference in performance over 2012 greater than Trump's margin?

Plus, you're ignoring the much larger number of people that stayed home in these states rather than vote Clinton vs. 2012, or heck, even vs. 2004. Those numbers are *much * larger than Trump's margin of victory.

I'm not ignoring any of that.  Yes, there are people who stayed home who could have made the difference for Clinton.  But that's true every year.  There are always enough people not voting who might have swung the election the other way.  I'm just saying that it's interesting that Stein voters, people who *did* bother to vote, and who probably overwhelmingly side more with Clinton than Trump on the issues, were a big enough group that they could have swung the election.

Of course, it's even more true that Johnson voters were numerous enough to swing the election.  But for them, it's probably not the case that they overwhelmingly agree more with Clinton than Trump on the issues.

[dax00]

Also of note: At least as of right now, it looks like the number of Stein votes in MI, PA, and WI is larger than Trump's margin of victory in all three states.  So if all the Stein voters had voted for Clinton, she'd now be president-elect.

the vast majority of stein and johnson voters would never vote for clinton or trump under any circumstance.

[Mr. Morden]

Also of note: At least as of right now, it looks like the number of Stein votes in MI, PA, and WI is larger than Trump's margin of victory in all three states.  So if all the Stein voters had voted for Clinton, she'd now be president-elect.

the vast majority of stein and johnson voters would never vote for clinton or trump under any circumstance.

I know.  I'm not saying that if Stein hadn't run, those people would have tended to vote for Clinton.  I'm just saying that if the Stein voters had been forced to vote either Clinton or Trump, and if they'd voted on the basis of who they agreed more with on the issues, there's a good chance that it would have been enough to throw the election to Clinton.

[DPKdebator]

Also of note: At least as of right now, it looks like the number of Stein votes in MI, PA, and WI is larger than Trump's margin of victory in all three states.  So if all the Stein voters had voted for Clinton, she'd now be president-elect.

the vast majority of stein and johnson voters would never vote for clinton or trump under any circumstance.

[Young Conservative]

Also of note: At least as of right now, it looks like the number of Stein votes in MI, PA, and WI is larger than Trump's margin of victory in all three states.  So if all the Stein voters had voted for Clinton, she'd now be president-elect.

the vast majority of stein and johnson voters would never vote for clinton or trump under any circumstance.

The ' what ifs ' of voting are silly rabbit holes.