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« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2016, 06:07:46 PM »

California 55 for Clinton. The Trump popular votes were credited to both the Republican and American Independent party slates. Under the full faith and credit clause of the US Constitution, these 4.4 million popular votes must be credited to Trump twice. Trump wins the popular vote.

Is that supposed to be a joke?
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« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2016, 11:36:29 PM »

California 55 for Clinton. The Trump popular votes were credited to both the Republican and American Independent party slates. Under the full faith and credit clause of the US Constitution, these 4.4 million popular votes must be credited to Trump twice. Trump wins the popular vote.

Is that supposed to be a joke?

The joke is how California credited Trump with 8.8 million total votes.  It would be great to get an explanation of exactly what was meant to be portrayed in this Certificate of Ascertainment!
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« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2016, 01:30:16 AM »

California 55 for Clinton. The Trump popular votes were credited to both the Republican and American Independent party slates. Under the full faith and credit clause of the US Constitution, these 4.4 million popular votes must be credited to Trump twice. Trump wins the popular vote.
Is that supposed to be a joke?
Before the election, the SOS sent out a memo saying that they would figure out how to handle the situation if and when it mattered (i.e. they recognized the deficiency in their statutes, but didn't think Trump would win). They also insisted on including instructions that voters could not follow.

California doesn't actually have a statute that says how to convert marks on ballot papers into votes for elector candidates.
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« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2016, 02:10:19 AM »
« Edited: December 26, 2016, 07:50:31 AM by jimrtex »

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Dates are when the certificate of ascertainment was executed, and not when they were received by the National Archivist or posted on the National Archives web site.

47 States, plus the District of Columbia are posted. New states are in red.

Kansas, Nevada, and New Hampshire are still out.

17 November (Clinton 4, Trump 0)

Hawaii 4 for Clinton(?) At least they are Democrats. Notice the surnames of the 20 elector candidates.

18 November (Clinton 4, Trump 3)

Wyoming 3 for Trump. Kit Carson was an elector for Johnson.

21 November (Trump 19, Clinton 7)

Georgia 16 for Trump(?). The certificate doesn't indicate a presidential candidate or party. Also Baoky Vu supposedly resigned in August. Notice Nathan Deal's signature (compare to Rick Scott's)

Vermont 3 for Clinton. Governor Shumlin is an elector for Clinton. The certificate misspells De La Fuente's name.

22 November (Trump 56, Clinton 7)

Florida 29 for Trump. 5 of the 6 write-in candidates received fewer votes than the 29 elector candidates they submitted. They probably didn't want to travel to Tallahassee to vote.

Louisiana 8 for Trump(?). No indication of party or candidate. Louisiana electors are chosen by district. What is the origin of the governor's name? His brothers have middle names of Millard and H., but it almost appears that his name is John-bel. Any relation to John Bell Hood, which would never appear as John Hood.

23 November (Trump 60, Clinton 10)

Delaware 3 for Clinton. Where is Caeser Rodney when you need him? The certificate only required 28 days to get from Dover to Washington. Only the Republicans and Democrats had named electors. Everyone else had Elector 1, Elector 2, and Elector 3.

Idaho 4 for Trump(?). The certificate indicates the party, but not the candidate. The Trump electors are from Hayden, Kuna, Melba, and Parma. Darrell Castle was not the nominee of the Idaho Constitution Party. Idaho omits the Vice-Presidential candidate. Idaho is the only state to correctly date their certificate.

28 November (Trump 67, Clinton 10)

Oklahoma 7 for Trump. Oklahoma chooses electors by congressional district.

29 November (Trump 79, Clinton 15)

New Mexico 5 for Clinton(?). The certificate just reiterates the total number of popular votes and the electors candidates associated with the presidential and vice-presidential candidates, but nowhere indicates which of them had been appointed elector.

North Dakota 3 for Trump. North Dakota left off the party for Trump, alone. North Dakota also reported its write-in votes as a collective total.

South Carolina 9 for Trump. Witnessed by "Her Excellency Our Governor".

30 November (Trump 123, Clinton 22)

Connecticut 7 for Clinton. Yale grads are even more pretentious than Harvard grads. Not only is the State Seal in Latin, it is oval shaped so as to better contain Connecticutensis. Connecticut spelled out the vote totals: Clinton led Trump by eight hundred ninety seven thousand, five hundred twenty four to six hundred seventy three thousand, one hundred ninety seven, a difference of two hundred twenty four thousand, three hundred twenty seven.

Texas 38 for Trump. One of the Valdivia electors is Mindy Lynn Mister-Moleski (wonders how often the syllables get transposed). Thomas Trump is an elector for Castle. Nine Lee electors have a surname of Lee. All 13 write-in candidates received at least 38 votes.

Utah 6 for Trump. Five political parties had candidates and slates of electors. three independent candidates had slates of electors, but De La Fuente only had four electors. Two independent candidates, including Jill Stein had no electors. Two write-in candidates had electors, and thirteen  write-in candidates had no electors. This may have hurt them since collectively they only received 54 popular votes.

1 December (Trump 134, Clinton 22)

Alaska 3 for Trump. The certificate was issued from Anchorage. Alaska electors usually meet in Anchorage rather than the ceremonial capital. The certificate was signed by both the Governor and the Lieutenant Government, since Alaska does not have a Secretary of State. One of the Trump electors is Sean Parnell, former governor. The certificate misspells the first name of Roque De La Fuente as Rogue. Perhaps they were channeling Sarah Palin.

Kentucky 8 for Trump. The certificate includes the (mailing) addresses of the elector candidates for on-ballot candidates. Republicans and Democrats, but not others are associate with districts. Three pairs of the McMullin electors appear to be couples. Had he won, could we have seem political romance between David and Rebecca? The certificate misspells Poplar Lane. Maybe the McMullin operatives couldn't understand the Kentuckians accent, "thats wright popular liek thuh treeuh". There were 24 write-in candidates. Ten of them received eight or more votes. 14 received fewer than 8 votes (they had more elector candidates than they had voters), including two who received zero votes, the ultimate in faithless electors.

2 December (Trump 167, Clinton 33)

Arkansas 6 for Trump. Addresses of the Trump electors are provided. One of the Clinton advisors is a women named Flowers. It turns out that she is a state representative, Vivian rather than Jennifer.

Indiana 11 for Trump. Indiana uses State Form 40655 / (R5/8-12) / IEC-20. R5/8-12 may be Revision 5, August 2012. The certificate was signed on December 2, but not published by the Archivist until December 15. The governor may have been busy with other matters. Indiana only had three on-ballot candidates. The 15 write-in candidates did not have to name 11 electors, though some did, and some named none. All eleven elector candidates for Koltikoff were from Michigan. Cherunda Fox who named 11 elector candidates received one popular vote.

Massachusetts 11 for Clinton. This is written with a script font. The candidates are listed as "Clinton and Kaine", "Trump and Pence", "Johnson and Weld", "Stein and Baraka". I suspect someone asked, "isn't that a bit informal?" The clerks preparing the certificate must have misunderstood, and thought, "hmm ... this is the font I used for my wedding invitations"

Michigan 16 for Trump. Addresses are given for the 16 electors. The certified margin is 10,704 votes. The Johnson (Libertarian) vote is 16.081 times as large; the Stein (Green) vote is 4.825 times as large; the Castle (U.S. Taxpayers) is 1.508 times as large; the McMullin (write-in) is 0.764 times as large. 5 of the 6 write-in candidates received more votes than they had electors. Cherunda Fox only got 10 votes for the 16 electors.

6 December (Trump 167, Clinton 66)

Illinois 20 for Clinton. The certificate begins with

TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME, GREETING;

One elector is John R Daley, who may be the grandson of Richard J Daley (the mayor), and nephew of Richard M Daley (former mayor of Chicago), and nephew of William M Daley (Obama's Chief of Staff and Bill Clinton's Secretary of Commerce). There does not appear to be an obvious (to me) large number of Polish surnames.

Virginia 13 for Clinton. I had commented earlier that the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania had a State Seal, while Kentucky had a Commonwealth Seal,  and  Massachusettensis had a Sigillum Reipublicae. Virginia does not say what kind of seal it has, but does include the state motto, and a picture of John Wilkes Booth. It proclaims that the electors for "Hillary Rodham Clinton and Tim Kaine" had been appointed. Most other states refer to the candidates as "Clinton and Kaine", or "Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine", or "Hillary Rodham Clinton and Timothy Michael Kaine". The governor Terence R. McAuliffe must be on a first name basis with Tim.

7 December (Trump 185, Clinton 96)

New Jersey 14 for Clinton. Chris Christie's father, Wilbur J. Christie (83 YO) was an elector for Trump.

Ohio 18 for Trump. The results are in numerical order highest to least. At the end of the second page is a seal and the signatures of Kasich and (SOS) Husted. The third page continues with additional candidates, and at the bottom of the fourth page is a seal and the signatures of Kasich and Husted.

Rhode Island 4 for Clinton. In the past, the Rhode Island Certificate of Ascertainment has included the state canvass for all offices in Rhode Island. This year, they only include the presidential results, and invite those interested in more details to their web site. A Clinton elector is Herbert Claiborne Pell. If this is Herbert Claiborne Pell IV he is the husband of Michelle Kwan.

Washington 12 for Clinton. Electors are linked from a spreadsheet, and includes their mailing addresses. Some curiosities: The Republicans alphabetized their electors. All 12 Green electors are from Seattle. Only one Constitution elector is from west of the Cascades (Marysviile). Four pairs of Socialist Workers electors share an address, are apparently male and female, but do not have a surname in common.

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« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2016, 03:01:48 AM »

California 55 for Clinton. The Trump popular votes were credited to both the Republican and American Independent party slates. Under the full faith and credit clause of the US Constitution, these 4.4 million popular votes must be credited to Trump twice. Trump wins the popular vote.
Is that supposed to be a joke?
Before the election, the SOS sent out a memo saying that they would figure out how to handle the situation if and when it mattered (i.e. they recognized the deficiency in their statutes, but didn't think Trump would win). They also insisted on including instructions that voters could not follow.

California doesn't actually have a statute that says how to convert marks on ballot papers into votes for elector candidates.

Saying that Trump won the popular vote because of that is BS though. California definitely has some weird election laws (like the fusion law) beyond the top two primary. Like how someone can be an officially recognized write in candidate against their will. I guess I don't mind because it was interesting to see how Sanders did, but it's still odd.
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« Reply #30 on: December 26, 2016, 07:47:49 AM »
« Edited: December 27, 2016, 08:44:15 PM by jimrtex »

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8 December (Trump 197, Clinton 139)

Arizona 11 for Trump. Gabrielle Giffords and Peterson Zah were Democratic electors.

The Republican electors show:

Lynch, Jane Pierpoint
Morgan, J. Foster

The tint on the Arizona certificate is a relief map of the state on a desert brown. It may be the only certificate with an explicit reference to Mex(ico).

Maine 3 for Clinton, 1 for Trump. The certificate lists the separate vote totals for the congressional districts:

ME-1 Clinton 54.0%, Trump 39.2%, Johnson 4.7%, Stein 1.9%; ME-2 Trump 51.3%, Clinton 41.0%, Johnson 5.5%, Stein 1.9%; for a 12.6% swing between two. There were also 184 votes from Military and Overseas not associated with a congressional district: Clinton 79.1%, Trump 17.6%, Johnson 1.6%, Stein 1.6%.

New York 29 for Clinton. Celebrity Apprentices Electors include Bill Clinton, Andrew Cuomo, Kathy Hochul, Bill de Blasio, and Christine Quinn. Donald J. Trump, Jr. was an elector nominee for his father. The certificate for New York is one page, with the canvass by the State Board of Elections on plain paper as an attachment. it lists the vote totals under New York's con-fusion law.

Oregon 7 for Clinton. Oregon, like Washington alphabetizes its elector lists.

9 December (Trump 197, Clinton 148)

Colorado 9 for Clinton. Pete Coors was a Republican elector. In addition to the 22 on-ballot candidates, there were 6 write-in candidates, only one of which who received 9 popular votes. Write-in candidates were associated with the "Green/Democratic", "Unaffiliated/Libertarian", "Unaffiliated/Republican", and "Republican" party.

12 December (Trump 242, Clinton 203)

Alabama 9 for Trump. The state canvass was completed on November 29, but the certificate of ascertainment was not completed until 12 December. It was prepared with a blank for the day, but not the month. How long did it sit in Bentley's in basket?

California 55 for Clinton. The Trump popular votes were credited to both the Republican and American Independent party slates. Under the full faith and credit clause of the US Constitution, these 4.4 million popular votes must be credited to Trump twice. Trump wins the popular vote.

Iowa 6 for Trump. The certificate only lists the party and not the presidential candidates, so it is not obvious that McMullin outpolled Stein in Iowa.

Pennsylvania 20 for Trump. Oddly, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania has a State seal. Kentucky has a commonwealth seal, and that from Massachusetts reads "Sigillum Reipublicę Massachusettensis" which translates as "Harvard Grads are Pretentious". Pennsylvania is one of few certificates that inform the electors of the meeting on the 19th. Arkansas is the other.

Wisconsin 10 for Trump. Wisconsin appears to use an actual wax seal.

13 December (Trump 242, Clinton 216)

District of Columbia 3 for Clinton. The District numbers their electoral colleges, this being the 14th College of Electors. None of the seven states holding their 58th College of Electors made note of that fact.

Minnesota 10 for Clinton. Minnesota has some of the most stringent and complicated faithless elector laws of any state. They require parties to name a slate of 10 elector candidates and 10 alternate elector candidates. They are also required to pledge to support the presidential and vice presidential candidate of their party. When they meet, they are required to sign their ballot. If they fail to fulfill their pledge, their vote will not be accepted, and they will deemed to have resigned. In the certificate of ascertainment, Governor Dayton asserts:

"I will certify that the electors will serve as electors unless a vacancy occurs in the office of elector before the end of the meeting at which elector votes are cast, in which case a substitute elector will fill the vacancy."

An amended Certificate of Ascertainment was issued on December 19

Minnesota had nine on-ballot candidates and 44 write-in candidates, 16 of whom received no popular votes, 16 others who had less than than 10 popular votes. Among those who received the most were candidates who included Amy Klobuchar, Jesse Ventura, and Condoleeza Rice, as their vice-presidential running mates. The elector candidate for the Jeffrey Ryan Wharton Sr.-Klobuchar ticket was Al Fraken.

Jill Stein's running mate in Minnesota was Howie Hawkins. Ajamu Baraka was a vice-presidential candidate for a write-in candidate who received zero votes.

14 December (Trump 267, Clinton 216)

Missouri 10 for Trump. While most governors are content with an introduction followed by a tally of all electoral votes, Jeremiah Nixon repeated it for each candidate of 12 candidates. "BE IT FURTHER KNOWN, that I, JEREMIAH W. (JAY) NIXON, Governor of the State of Missouri, do hereby certify ..." Either that or Secretary of State Kander knows that Nixon hates being called Jeremiah.

North Carolina 15 for Trump. The North Carolina certificate uses a letterhead with a seal, and apparently did not require the SOS to witness the governor's signing.

15 December (Trump 281, Clinton 216)

TRUMP WINS                              DONALD J. TRUMP ELECTED 45TH PRESIDENT         MIKE PENCE VICE PRESIDENT
Mississippi 6 for Trump. The Constitution Party outpolled the Green Party, and the Prohibition Party was on the ballot.

Nebraska 5 for Trump. The two-way results for three congressional districts were, from west to east: NE-3 Trump 79%:Clinton 21%; NE-1 Trump 61%:Clinton 39%; Trump 51%:Clinton 49%. NE-3 is thus the most Republican electoral unit in the country. Wyoming was 76%:24% for Trump. Nebraska includes the same caveat as Minnesota, that vacancies might occur up to the end of the meeting of the electoral college.

South Dakota 3 for Trump. South Dakota elected Governor Dennis Daugaard, Lieutenant Governor Matt Michels, and Attorney General Marty Jackley. South Dakota joins New York and Vermont as states where the governor certified his own election.

16 December (Trump 286, Clinton 216)

West Virginia 5 for Trump. West Virginia had 34 write-in candidates, including 17 who received zero votes. The 188,794 popular votes for Hillary "We're Going To Put Coal Miners Out of Business (Chopping Motion) Right, Tim (smirk)" Clinton is the fewest for a Democratic candidate in West Virginia since 1916 - and that was before the 19th Amendment. If we assume that a majority of the Clinton voters were female, then we have to go back to the 1892 election to find an election with fewer male Democratic voters.

19 December (Trump 297, Clinton 226)

Maryland 10 for Clinton. Michael Steele, former RNC Chair, was a Republican elector who announced before the general election that he would not vote for Trump or Clinton.

Tennessee 11 for Trump. The electors for each candidate are presented in alphabetical order.

20 December (Trump 300, Clinton 226)

Montana 3 for Trump. This is an amended certificate of ascertainment. The original was apparently created on November 29, but was not posted on the Archivists web site. It includes language about the possibility of electors being replaced before the end of the electors meeting. Two of the three original electors were replaced, so I found the meeting video to figure out what happened. As it turned out, one of the electors was absent, and one who was present resigned. She is a state representative, and apparently someone raised the issue of whether she was eligible or not.

Before that, the Secretary of State, Democrat Linda McCulloch, decided that she would have a public comments section. A lady near the front immediately raised her hand. Montana is not a populous state, and people do not dress up for the legislature, probably reasoning that if it is good enough for getting varmints and rodents out of the house, it is good enough for getting varmints and rodents out of the House. They're also probably neighbors and likely know that everyone has a long gun out in their truck. So a few people speak in favor of Trump, and the elector who would resign went into the audience and brought up her grandson, who appears to be six or eight, and placed a chair for him to stand on so he could reach the microphone. He said something about "Trump had won the electors".
The first Trump supporter, had to keep coming up to adjust the microphone, since nobody knew to speak into the microphone. Then there were a few opponents. Nobody advocated for an alternate candidate, but they were opposed to Trump, and all addressed the electors, who were sitting off to the side. Those favoring Trump spoke to the audience. The lady who raised her hand initially, said she wished that the electors would say why they were voting for Trump, other than that it was the law. She looked like she was 70 or so, and I wonder if she had talked McCulloch into opening the meeting to public comment.

Then the actual meeting began. The roll of electors was taken, and then the elector who was resigning was given the opportunity to resign. She said she was resigning, but was clearly in favor of Trump, and said that it was very important for her grandchildren to witness the election of Trump. She then went at sat with her family. After about a minute, they got up and left, and so her grandchildren never got to see the actual election.

The two alternates who were present filled the two vacancies. After the three electors were sworn in, they conducted the meeting (using a script provided by the SOS).

Minnesota Clinton 20. This is an amended Certificate of Ascertainment (it is at the end of the original PDF). It shows Jill Garcia as an elector, and claims that she 1,367,716 votes. Her position as alternate elector is noted as being vacant. There is no mention of the original elector, who is now officially a non-person.
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« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2016, 01:27:24 PM »

47 States, plus the District of Columbia are posted.

Kansas, Nevada, and New Hampshire are still out.

NH's certificate arrived / was posted today.

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2016-certificates/pdfs/ascertainment-new-hampshire.pdf

That means only KS and NV are left.
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« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2016, 01:39:47 PM »

Someone also needs to send the National Archives an amended certificate for NY:

Their certificate is from Dec. 8, showing 7.7 million votes.

But the state updated their numbers by another 85.000 votes on December 22 ...

Weird that a state would create and submit their certificate before all votes are counted !
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« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2016, 08:28:50 PM »
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Dates are when the certificate of ascertainment was executed, and not when they were received by the National Archivist or posted on the National Archives web site.

48 States, plus the District of Columbia are posted. New states are in red. Minnesota issued an amended certificate.

Kansas and Nevada are still out.

17 November (Clinton 4, Trump 0)

Hawaii 4 for Clinton(?) At least they are Democrats. Notice the surnames of the 20 elector candidates.

18 November (Clinton 4, Trump 3)

Wyoming 3 for Trump. Kit Carson was an elector for Johnson.

21 November (Trump 19, Clinton 7)

Georgia 16 for Trump(?). The certificate doesn't indicate a presidential candidate or party. Also Baoky Vu supposedly resigned in August. Notice Nathan Deal's signature (compare to Rick Scott's)

Vermont 3 for Clinton. Governor Shumlin is an elector for Clinton. The certificate misspells De La Fuente's name.

22 November (Trump 56, Clinton 7)

Florida 29 for Trump. 5 of the 6 write-in candidates received fewer votes than the 29 elector candidates they submitted. They probably didn't want to travel to Tallahassee to vote.

Louisiana 8 for Trump(?). No indication of party or candidate. Louisiana electors are chosen by district. What is the origin of the governor's name? His brothers have middle names of Millard and H., but it almost appears that his name is John-bel. Any relation to John Bell Hood, which would never appear as John Hood.

23 November (Trump 60, Clinton 10)

Delaware 3 for Clinton. Where is Caeser Rodney when you need him? The certificate only required 28 days to get from Dover to Washington. Only the Republicans and Democrats had named electors. Everyone else had Elector 1, Elector 2, and Elector 3.

Idaho 4 for Trump(?). The certificate indicates the party, but not the candidate. The Trump electors are from Hayden, Kuna, Melba, and Parma. Darrell Castle was not the nominee of the Idaho Constitution Party. Idaho omits the Vice-Presidential candidate. Idaho is the only state to correctly date their certificate.

28 November (Trump 67, Clinton 10)

Oklahoma 7 for Trump. Oklahoma chooses electors by congressional district.

29 November (Trump 79, Clinton 15)

New Mexico 5 for Clinton(?). The certificate just reiterates the total number of popular votes and the electors candidates associated with the presidential and vice-presidential candidates, but nowhere indicates which of them had been appointed elector.

North Dakota 3 for Trump. North Dakota left off the party for Trump, alone. North Dakota also reported its write-in votes as a collective total.

South Carolina 9 for Trump. Witnessed by "Her Excellency Our Governor".

30 November (Trump 123, Clinton 22)

Connecticut 7 for Clinton. Yale grads are even more pretentious than Harvard grads. Not only is the State Seal in Latin, it is oval shaped so as to better contain Connecticutensis. Connecticut spelled out the vote totals: Clinton led Trump by eight hundred ninety seven thousand, five hundred twenty four to six hundred seventy three thousand, one hundred ninety seven, a difference of two hundred twenty four thousand, three hundred twenty seven.

Texas 38 for Trump. One of the Valdivia electors is Mindy Lynn Mister-Moleski (wonders how often the syllables get transposed). Thomas Trump is an elector for Castle. Nine Lee electors have a surname of Lee. All 13 write-in candidates received at least 38 votes.

Utah 6 for Trump. Five political parties had candidates and slates of electors. three independent candidates had slates of electors, but De La Fuente only had four electors. Two independent candidates, including Jill Stein had no electors. Two write-in candidates had electors, and thirteen  write-in candidates had no electors. This may have hurt them since collectively they only received 54 popular votes.

1 December (Trump 134, Clinton 22)

Alaska 3 for Trump. The certificate was issued from Anchorage. Alaska electors usually meet in Anchorage rather than the ceremonial capital. The certificate was signed by both the Governor and the Lieutenant Government, since Alaska does not have a Secretary of State. One of the Trump electors is Sean Parnell, former governor. The certificate misspells the first name of Roque De La Fuente as Rogue. Perhaps they were channeling Sarah Palin.

Kentucky 8 for Trump. The certificate includes the (mailing) addresses of the elector candidates for on-ballot candidates. Republicans and Democrats, but not others are associate with districts. Three pairs of the McMullin electors appear to be couples. Had he won, could we have seem political romance between David and Rebecca? The certificate misspells Poplar Lane. Maybe the McMullin operatives couldn't understand the Kentuckians accent, "thats wright popular liek thuh treeuh". There were 24 write-in candidates. Ten of them received eight or more votes. 14 received fewer than 8 votes (they had more elector candidates than they had voters), including two who received zero votes, the ultimate in faithless electors.

2 December (Trump 167, Clinton 33)

Arkansas 6 for Trump. Addresses of the Trump electors are provided. One of the Clinton advisors is a women named Flowers. It turns out that she is a state representative, Vivian rather than Jennifer.

Indiana 11 for Trump. Indiana uses State Form 40655 / (R5/8-12) / IEC-20. R5/8-12 may be Revision 5, August 2012. The certificate was signed on December 2, but not published by the Archivist until December 15. The governor may have been busy with other matters. Indiana only had three on-ballot candidates. The 15 write-in candidates did not have to name 11 electors, though some did, and some named none. All eleven elector candidates for Koltikoff were from Michigan. Cherunda Fox who named 11 elector candidates received one popular vote.

Massachusetts 11 for Clinton. This is written with a script font. The candidates are listed as "Clinton and Kaine", "Trump and Pence", "Johnson and Weld", "Stein and Baraka". I suspect someone asked, "isn't that a bit informal?" The clerks preparing the certificate must have misunderstood, and thought, "hmm ... this is the font I used for my wedding invitations"

Michigan 16 for Trump. Addresses are given for the 16 electors. The certified margin is 10,704 votes. The Johnson (Libertarian) vote is 16.081 times as large; the Stein (Green) vote is 4.825 times as large; the Castle (U.S. Taxpayers) is 1.508 times as large; the McMullin (write-in) is 0.764 times as large. 5 of the 6 write-in candidates received more votes than they had electors. Cherunda Fox only got 10 votes for the 16 electors.

6 December (Trump 167, Clinton 66)

Illinois 20 for Clinton. The certificate begins with

TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME, GREETING;

One elector is John R Daley, who may be the grandson of Richard J Daley (the mayor), and nephew of Richard M Daley (former mayor of Chicago), and nephew of William M Daley (Obama's Chief of Staff and Bill Clinton's Secretary of Commerce). There does not appear to be an obvious (to me) large number of Polish surnames.

Virginia 13 for Clinton. I had commented earlier that the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania had a State Seal, while Kentucky had a Commonwealth Seal,  and  Massachusettensis had a Sigillum Reipublicae. Virginia does not say what kind of seal it has, but does include the state motto, and a picture of John Wilkes Booth. It proclaims that the electors for "Hillary Rodham Clinton and Tim Kaine" had been appointed. Most other states refer to the candidates as "Clinton and Kaine", or "Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine", or "Hillary Rodham Clinton and Timothy Michael Kaine". The governor Terence R. McAuliffe must be on a first name basis with Tim.

7 December (Trump 185, Clinton 100)

New Hampshire 4 for Clinton. Electors include Carol Shea-Porter and Dudley Dudley (or Dudley, Dudley).

New Jersey 14 for Clinton. Chris Christie's father, Wilbur J. Christie (83 YO) was an elector for Trump.

Ohio 18 for Trump. The results are in numerical order highest to least. At the end of the second page is a seal and the signatures of Kasich and (SOS) Husted. The third page continues with additional candidates, and at the bottom of the fourth page is a seal and the signatures of Kasich and Husted.

Rhode Island 4 for Clinton. In the past, the Rhode Island Certificate of Ascertainment has included the state canvass for all offices in Rhode Island. This year, they only include the presidential results, and invite those interested in more details to their web site. A Clinton elector is Herbert Claiborne Pell. If this is Herbert Claiborne Pell IV he is the husband of Michelle Kwan.

Washington 12 for Clinton. Electors are linked from a spreadsheet, and includes their mailing addresses. Some curiosities: The Republicans alphabetized their electors. All 12 Green electors are from Seattle. Only one Constitution elector is from west of the Cascades (Marysviile). Four pairs of Socialist Workers electors share an address, are apparently male and female, but do not have a surname in common.

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« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2016, 12:33:09 AM »

KS now posted.

NV is officially the laziest state of the nation, only their certificate is still missing ...
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« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2016, 05:51:32 AM »

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Dates are when the certificate of ascertainment was executed, and not when they were received by the National Archivist or posted on the National Archives web site.

49 States, plus the District of Columbia are posted. New states are in red.

Nevada is still out.

17 November (Clinton 4, Trump 0)

Hawaii 4 for Clinton(?) At least they are Democrats. Notice the surnames of the 20 elector candidates.

18 November (Clinton 4, Trump 3)

Wyoming 3 for Trump. Kit Carson was an elector for Johnson.

21 November (Trump 19, Clinton 7)

Georgia 16 for Trump(?). The certificate doesn't indicate a presidential candidate or party. Also Baoky Vu supposedly resigned in August. Notice Nathan Deal's signature (compare to Rick Scott's)

Vermont 3 for Clinton. Governor Shumlin is an elector for Clinton. The certificate misspells De La Fuente's name.

22 November (Trump 56, Clinton 7)

Florida 29 for Trump. 5 of the 6 write-in candidates received fewer votes than the 29 elector candidates they submitted. They probably didn't want to travel to Tallahassee to vote.

Louisiana 8 for Trump(?). No indication of party or candidate. Louisiana electors are chosen by district. What is the origin of the governor's name? His brothers have middle names of Millard and H., but it almost appears that his name is John-bel. Any relation to John Bell Hood, which would never appear as John Hood.

23 November (Trump 60, Clinton 10)

Delaware 3 for Clinton. Where is Caeser Rodney when you need him? The certificate only required 28 days to get from Dover to Washington. Only the Republicans and Democrats had named electors. Everyone else had Elector 1, Elector 2, and Elector 3.

Idaho 4 for Trump(?). The certificate indicates the party, but not the candidate. The Trump electors are from Hayden, Kuna, Melba, and Parma. Darrell Castle was not the nominee of the Idaho Constitution Party. Idaho omits the Vice-Presidential candidate. Idaho is the only state to correctly date their certificate.

28 November (Trump 67, Clinton 10)

Oklahoma 7 for Trump. Oklahoma chooses electors by congressional district.

29 November (Trump 79, Clinton 15)

New Mexico 5 for Clinton(?). The certificate just reiterates the total number of popular votes and the electors candidates associated with the presidential and vice-presidential candidates, but nowhere indicates which of them had been appointed elector.

North Dakota 3 for Trump. North Dakota left off the party for Trump, alone. North Dakota also reported its write-in votes as a collective total.

South Carolina 9 for Trump. Witnessed by "Her Excellency Our Governor".

30 November (Trump 123, Clinton 22)

Connecticut 7 for Clinton. Yale grads are even more pretentious than Harvard grads. Not only is the State Seal in Latin, it is oval shaped so as to better contain Connecticutensis. Connecticut spelled out the vote totals: Clinton led Trump by eight hundred ninety seven thousand, five hundred twenty four to six hundred seventy three thousand, one hundred ninety seven, a difference of two hundred twenty four thousand, three hundred twenty seven.

Texas 38 for Trump. One of the Valdivia electors is Mindy Lynn Mister-Moleski (wonders how often the syllables get transposed). Thomas Trump is an elector for Castle. Nine Lee electors have a surname of Lee. All 13 write-in candidates received at least 38 votes.

Utah 6 for Trump. Five political parties had candidates and slates of electors. three independent candidates had slates of electors, but De La Fuente only had four electors. Two independent candidates, including Jill Stein had no electors. Two write-in candidates had electors, and thirteen  write-in candidates had no electors. This may have hurt them since collectively they only received 54 popular votes.

1 December (Trump 140, Clinton 22)

Alaska 3 for Trump. The certificate was issued from Anchorage. Alaska electors usually meet in Anchorage rather than the ceremonial capital. The certificate was signed by both the Governor and the Lieutenant Government, since Alaska does not have a Secretary of State. One of the Trump electors is Sean Parnell, former governor. The certificate misspells the first name of Roque De La Fuente as Rogue. Perhaps they were channeling Sarah Palin.

Kentucky 8 for Trump. The certificate includes the (mailing) addresses of the elector candidates for on-ballot candidates. Republicans and Democrats, but not others are associate with districts. Three pairs of the McMullin electors appear to be couples. Had he won, could we have seem political romance between David and Rebecca? The certificate misspells Poplar Lane. Maybe the McMullin operatives couldn't understand the Kentuckians accent, "thats wright popular liek thuh treeuh". There were 24 write-in candidates. Ten of them received eight or more votes. 14 received fewer than 8 votes (they had more elector candidates than they had voters), including two who received zero votes, the ultimate in faithless electors.

Kansas 6 for Trump. The certificate was posted about four weeks after it was executed.

2 December (Trump 173, Clinton 33)

Arkansas 6 for Trump. Addresses of the Trump electors are provided. One of the Clinton advisors is a women named Flowers. It turns out that she is a state representative, Vivian rather than Jennifer.

Indiana 11 for Trump. Indiana uses State Form 40655 / (R5/8-12) / IEC-20. R5/8-12 may be Revision 5, August 2012. The certificate was signed on December 2, but not published by the Archivist until December 15. The governor may have been busy with other matters. Indiana only had three on-ballot candidates. The 15 write-in candidates did not have to name 11 electors, though some did, and some named none. All eleven elector candidates for Koltikoff were from Michigan. Cherunda Fox who named 11 elector candidates received one popular vote.

Massachusetts 11 for Clinton. This is written with a script font. The candidates are listed as "Clinton and Kaine", "Trump and Pence", "Johnson and Weld", "Stein and Baraka". I suspect someone asked, "isn't that a bit informal?" The clerks preparing the certificate must have misunderstood, and thought, "hmm ... this is the font I used for my wedding invitations"

Michigan 16 for Trump. Addresses are given for the 16 electors. The certified margin is 10,704 votes. The Johnson (Libertarian) vote is 16.081 times as large; the Stein (Green) vote is 4.825 times as large; the Castle (U.S. Taxpayers) is 1.508 times as large; the McMullin (write-in) is 0.764 times as large. 5 of the 6 write-in candidates received more votes than they had electors. Cherunda Fox only got 10 votes for the 16 electors.

6 December (Trump 173, Clinton 66)

Illinois 20 for Clinton. The certificate begins with

TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME, GREETING;

One elector is John R Daley, who may be the grandson of Richard J Daley (the mayor), and nephew of Richard M Daley (former mayor of Chicago), and nephew of William M Daley (Obama's Chief of Staff and Bill Clinton's Secretary of Commerce). There does not appear to be an obvious (to me) large number of Polish surnames.

Virginia 13 for Clinton. I had commented earlier that the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania had a State Seal, while Kentucky had a Commonwealth Seal,  and  Massachusettensis had a Sigillum Reipublicae. Virginia does not say what kind of seal it has, but does include the state motto, and a picture of John Wilkes Booth. It proclaims that the electors for "Hillary Rodham Clinton and Tim Kaine" had been appointed. Most other states refer to the candidates as "Clinton and Kaine", or "Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine", or "Hillary Rodham Clinton and Timothy Michael Kaine". The governor Terence R. McAuliffe must be on a first name basis with Tim.

7 December (Trump 191, Clinton 100)

New Hampshire 4 for Clinton. Electors include Carol Shea-Porter and Dudley Dudley (or Dudley, Dudley).

New Jersey 14 for Clinton. Chris Christie's father, Wilbur J. Christie (83 YO) was an elector for Trump.

Ohio 18 for Trump. The results are in numerical order highest to least. At the end of the second page is a seal and the signatures of Kasich and (SOS) Husted. The third page continues with additional candidates, and at the bottom of the fourth page is a seal and the signatures of Kasich and Husted.

Rhode Island 4 for Clinton. In the past, the Rhode Island Certificate of Ascertainment has included the state canvass for all offices in Rhode Island. This year, they only include the presidential results, and invite those interested in more details to their web site. A Clinton elector is Herbert Claiborne Pell. If this is Herbert Claiborne Pell IV he is the husband of Michelle Kwan.

Washington 12 for Clinton. Electors are linked from a spreadsheet, and includes their mailing addresses. Some curiosities: The Republicans alphabetized their electors. All 12 Green electors are from Seattle. Only one Constitution elector is from west of the Cascades (Marysviile). Four pairs of Socialist Workers electors share an address, are apparently male and female, but do not have a surname in common.

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« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2016, 06:02:18 AM »

PART II

8 December (Trump 203, Clinton 139)

Arizona 11 for Trump. Gabrielle Giffords and Peterson Zah were Democratic electors.

The Republican electors show:

Lynch, Jane Pierpoint
Morgan, J. Foster

The tint on the Arizona certificate is a relief map of the state on a desert brown. It may be the only certificate with an explicit reference to Mex(ico).

Maine 3 for Clinton, 1 for Trump. The certificate lists the separate vote totals for the congressional districts:

ME-1 Clinton 54.0%, Trump 39.2%, Johnson 4.7%, Stein 1.9%; ME-2 Trump 51.3%, Clinton 41.0%, Johnson 5.5%, Stein 1.9%; for a 12.6% swing between two. There were also 184 votes from Military and Overseas not associated with a congressional district: Clinton 79.1%, Trump 17.6%, Johnson 1.6%, Stein 1.6%.

New York 29 for Clinton. Celebrity Apprentices Electors include Bill Clinton, Andrew Cuomo, Kathy Hochul, Bill de Blasio, and Christine Quinn. Donald J. Trump, Jr. was an elector nominee for his father. The certificate for New York is one page, with the canvass by the State Board of Elections on plain paper as an attachment. it lists the vote totals under New York's con-fusion law.

Oregon 7 for Clinton. Oregon, like Washington alphabetizes its elector lists.

9 December (Trump 203, Clinton 148)

Colorado 9 for Clinton. Pete Coors was a Republican elector. In addition to the 22 on-ballot candidates, there were 6 write-in candidates, only one of which who received 9 popular votes. Write-in candidates were associated with the "Green/Democratic", "Unaffiliated/Libertarian", "Unaffiliated/Republican", and "Republican" party.

12 December (Trump 248, Clinton 203)

Alabama 9 for Trump. The state canvass was completed on November 29, but the certificate of ascertainment was not completed until 12 December. It was prepared with a blank for the day, but not the month. How long did it sit in Bentley's in basket?

California 55 for Clinton. The Trump popular votes were credited to both the Republican and American Independent party slates. Under the full faith and credit clause of the US Constitution, these 4.4 million popular votes must be credited to Trump twice. Trump wins the popular vote.

Iowa 6 for Trump. The certificate only lists the party and not the presidential candidates, so it is not obvious that McMullin outpolled Stein in Iowa.

Pennsylvania 20 for Trump. Oddly, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania has a State seal. Kentucky has a commonwealth seal, and that from Massachusetts reads "Sigillum Reipublicę Massachusettensis" which translates as "Harvard Grads are Pretentious". Pennsylvania is one of few certificates that inform the electors of the meeting on the 19th. Arkansas is the other.

Wisconsin 10 for Trump. Wisconsin appears to use an actual wax seal.

13 December (Trump 248, Clinton 216)

District of Columbia 3 for Clinton. The District numbers their electoral colleges, this being the 14th College of Electors. None of the seven states holding their 58th College of Electors made note of that fact.

Minnesota 10 for Clinton. Minnesota has some of the most stringent and complicated faithless elector laws of any state. They require parties to name a slate of 10 elector candidates and 10 alternate elector candidates. They are also required to pledge to support the presidential and vice presidential candidate of their party. When they meet, they are required to sign their ballot. If they fail to fulfill their pledge, their vote will not be accepted, and they will deemed to have resigned. In the certificate of ascertainment, Governor Dayton asserts:

"I will certify that the electors will serve as electors unless a vacancy occurs in the office of elector before the end of the meeting at which elector votes are cast, in which case a substitute elector will fill the vacancy."

An amended Certificate of Ascertainment was issued on December 19

Minnesota had nine on-ballot candidates and 44 write-in candidates, 16 of whom received no popular votes, 16 others who had less than than 10 popular votes. Among those who received the most were candidates who included Amy Klobuchar, Jesse Ventura, and Condoleeza Rice, as their vice-presidential running mates. The elector candidate for the Jeffrey Ryan Wharton Sr.-Klobuchar ticket was Al Fraken.

Jill Stein's running mate in Minnesota was Howie Hawkins. Ajamu Baraka was a vice-presidential candidate for a write-in candidate who received zero votes.

14 December (Trump 273, Clinton 216)

TRUMP WINS                              DONALD J. TRUMP ELECTED 45TH PRESIDENT         MIKE PENCE VICE PRESIDENT
The certificate from Kansas executed on December 1, means Trump was elected one day earlier.

Missouri 10 for Trump. While most governors are content with an introduction followed by a tally of all electoral votes, Jeremiah Nixon repeated it for each candidate of 12 candidates. "BE IT FURTHER KNOWN, that I, JEREMIAH W. (JAY) NIXON, Governor of the State of Missouri, do hereby certify ..." Either that or Secretary of State Kander knows that Nixon hates being called Jeremiah.

North Carolina 15 for Trump. The North Carolina certificate uses a letterhead with a seal, and apparently did not require the SOS to witness the governor's signing.

15 December (Trump 287, Clinton 216)

Mississippi 6 for Trump. The Constitution Party outpolled the Green Party, and the Prohibition Party was on the ballot.

Nebraska 5 for Trump. The two-way results for three congressional districts were, from west to east: NE-3 Trump 79%:Clinton 21%; NE-1 Trump 61%:Clinton 39%; Trump 51%:Clinton 49%. NE-3 is thus the most Republican electoral unit in the country. Wyoming was 76%:24% for Trump. Nebraska includes the same caveat as Minnesota, that vacancies might occur up to the end of the meeting of the electoral college.

South Dakota 3 for Trump. South Dakota elected Governor Dennis Daugaard, Lieutenant Governor Matt Michels, and Attorney General Marty Jackley. South Dakota joins New York and Vermont as states where the governor certified his own election.

16 December (Trump 292, Clinton 216)

West Virginia 5 for Trump. West Virginia had 34 write-in candidates, including 17 who received zero votes. The 188,794 popular votes for Hillary "We're Going To Put Coal Miners Out of Business (Chopping Motion) Right, Tim (smirk)" Clinton is the fewest for a Democratic candidate in West Virginia since 1916 - and that was before the 19th Amendment. If we assume that a majority of the Clinton voters were female, then we have to go back to the 1892 election to find an election with fewer male Democratic voters.

19 December (Trump 303, Clinton 226)

Maryland 10 for Clinton. Michael Steele, former RNC Chair, was a Republican elector who announced before the general election that he would not vote for Trump or Clinton.

Tennessee 11 for Trump. The electors for each candidate are presented in alphabetical order.

20 December (Trump 306, Clinton 226)

Montana 3 for Trump. This is an amended certificate of ascertainment. The original was apparently created on November 29, but was not posted on the Archivists web site. It includes language about the possibility of electors being replaced before the end of the electors meeting. Two of the three original electors were replaced, so I found the meeting video to figure out what happened. As it turned out, one of the electors was absent, and one who was present resigned. She is a state representative, and apparently someone raised the issue of whether she was eligible or not.

Before that, the Secretary of State, Democrat Linda McCulloch, decided that she would have a public comments section. A lady near the front immediately raised her hand. Montana is not a populous state, and people do not dress up for the legislature, probably reasoning that if it is good enough for getting varmints and rodents out of the house, it is good enough for getting varmints and rodents out of the House. They're also probably neighbors and likely know that everyone has a long gun out in their truck. So a few people speak in favor of Trump, and the elector who would resign went into the audience and brought up her grandson, who appears to be six or eight, and placed a chair for him to stand on so he could reach the microphone. He said something about "Trump had won the electors".
The first Trump supporter, had to keep coming up to adjust the microphone, since nobody knew to speak into the microphone. Then there were a few opponents. Nobody advocated for an alternate candidate, but they were opposed to Trump, and all addressed the electors, who were sitting off to the side. Those favoring Trump spoke to the audience. The lady who raised her hand initially, said she wished that the electors would say why they were voting for Trump, other than that it was the law. She looked like she was 70 or so, and I wonder if she had talked McCulloch into opening the meeting to public comment.

Then the actual meeting began. The roll of electors was taken, and then the elector who was resigning was given the opportunity to resign. She said she was resigning, but was clearly in favor of Trump, and said that it was very important for her grandchildren to witness the election of Trump. She then went at sat with her family. After about a minute, they got up and left, and so her grandchildren never got to see the actual election.

The two alternates who were present filled the two vacancies. After the three electors were sworn in, they conducted the meeting (using a script provided by the SOS).

Minnesota Clinton 20. This is an amended Certificate of Ascertainment (it is at the end of the original PDF). It shows Jill Garcia as an elector, and claims that she 1,367,716 votes. Her position as alternate elector is noted as being vacant. There is no mention of the original elector, who is now officially a non-person.
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« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2016, 11:48:46 AM »

All states + DC are now posted.

NV was the last one today.

But at least 1 state (NY) has higher vote totals than what the certificate shows ...
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« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2016, 10:50:57 PM »

All states + DC are now posted.

NV was the last one today.

But at least 1 state (NY) has higher vote totals than what the certificate shows ...

I need you to check all of them. The amended Minnesota one was stuck on the end of the original.
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« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2016, 10:54:33 PM »

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Dates are when the certificate of ascertainment was executed, and not when they were received by the National Archivist or posted on the National Archives web site.

50 States, plus the District of Columbia are posted. New states are in red.

17 November (Clinton 4, Trump 0)

Hawaii 4 for Clinton(?) At least they are Democrats. Notice the surnames of the 20 elector candidates.

18 November (Clinton 4, Trump 3)

Wyoming 3 for Trump. Kit Carson was an elector for Johnson.

21 November (Trump 19, Clinton 7)

Georgia 16 for Trump(?). The certificate doesn't indicate a presidential candidate or party. Also Baoky Vu supposedly resigned in August. Notice Nathan Deal's signature (compare to Rick Scott's)

Vermont 3 for Clinton. Governor Shumlin is an elector for Clinton. The certificate misspells De La Fuente's name.

22 November (Trump 56, Clinton 7)

Florida 29 for Trump. 5 of the 6 write-in candidates received fewer votes than the 29 elector candidates they submitted. They probably didn't want to travel to Tallahassee to vote.

Louisiana 8 for Trump(?). No indication of party or candidate. Louisiana electors are chosen by district. What is the origin of the governor's name? His brothers have middle names of Millard and H., but it almost appears that his name is John-bel. Any relation to John Bell Hood, which would never appear as John Hood.

23 November (Trump 60, Clinton 10)

Delaware 3 for Clinton. Where is Caeser Rodney when you need him? The certificate only required 28 days to get from Dover to Washington. Only the Republicans and Democrats had named electors. Everyone else had Elector 1, Elector 2, and Elector 3.

Idaho 4 for Trump(?). The certificate indicates the party, but not the candidate. The Trump electors are from Hayden, Kuna, Melba, and Parma. Darrell Castle was not the nominee of the Idaho Constitution Party. Idaho omits the Vice-Presidential candidate. Idaho is the only state to correctly date their certificate.

28 November (Trump 67, Clinton 10)

Oklahoma 7 for Trump. Oklahoma chooses electors by congressional district.

29 November (Trump 79, Clinton 15)

New Mexico 5 for Clinton(?). The certificate just reiterates the total number of popular votes and the electors candidates associated with the presidential and vice-presidential candidates, but nowhere indicates which of them had been appointed elector.

North Dakota 3 for Trump. North Dakota left off the party for Trump, alone. North Dakota also reported its write-in votes as a collective total.

South Carolina 9 for Trump. Witnessed by "Her Excellency Our Governor".

30 November (Trump 123, Clinton 22)

Connecticut 7 for Clinton. Yale grads are even more pretentious than Harvard grads. Not only is the State Seal in Latin, it is oval shaped so as to better contain Connecticutensis. Connecticut spelled out the vote totals: Clinton led Trump by eight hundred ninety seven thousand, five hundred twenty four to six hundred seventy three thousand, one hundred ninety seven, a difference of two hundred twenty four thousand, three hundred twenty seven.

Texas 38 for Trump. One of the Valdivia electors is Mindy Lynn Mister-Moleski (wonders how often the syllables get transposed). Thomas Trump is an elector for Castle. Nine Lee electors have a surname of Lee. All 13 write-in candidates received at least 38 votes.

Utah 6 for Trump. Five political parties had candidates and slates of electors. three independent candidates had slates of electors, but De La Fuente only had four electors. Two independent candidates, including Jill Stein had no electors. Two write-in candidates had electors, and thirteen  write-in candidates had no electors. This may have hurt them since collectively they only received 54 popular votes.

1 December (Trump 140, Clinton 22)

Alaska 3 for Trump. The certificate was issued from Anchorage. Alaska electors usually meet in Anchorage rather than the ceremonial capital. The certificate was signed by both the Governor and the Lieutenant Government, since Alaska does not have a Secretary of State. One of the Trump electors is Sean Parnell, former governor. The certificate misspells the first name of Roque De La Fuente as Rogue. Perhaps they were channeling Sarah Palin.

Kentucky 8 for Trump. The certificate includes the (mailing) addresses of the elector candidates for on-ballot candidates. Republicans and Democrats, but not others are associate with districts. Three pairs of the McMullin electors appear to be couples. Had he won, could we have seem political romance between David and Rebecca? The certificate misspells Poplar Lane. Maybe the McMullin operatives couldn't understand the Kentuckians accent, "thats wright popular liek thuh treeuh". There were 24 write-in candidates. Ten of them received eight or more votes. 14 received fewer than 8 votes (they had more elector candidates than they had voters), including two who received zero votes, the ultimate in faithless electors.

Kansas 6 for Trump. The certificate was posted about four weeks after it was executed.

2 December (Trump 173, Clinton 33)

Arkansas 6 for Trump. Addresses of the Trump electors are provided. One of the Clinton advisors is a women named Flowers. It turns out that she is a state representative, Vivian rather than Jennifer.

Indiana 11 for Trump. Indiana uses State Form 40655 / (R5/8-12) / IEC-20. R5/8-12 may be Revision 5, August 2012. The certificate was signed on December 2, but not published by the Archivist until December 15. The governor may have been busy with other matters. Indiana only had three on-ballot candidates. The 15 write-in candidates did not have to name 11 electors, though some did, and some named none. All eleven elector candidates for Koltikoff were from Michigan. Cherunda Fox who named 11 elector candidates received one popular vote.

Massachusetts 11 for Clinton. This is written with a script font. The candidates are listed as "Clinton and Kaine", "Trump and Pence", "Johnson and Weld", "Stein and Baraka". I suspect someone asked, "isn't that a bit informal?" The clerks preparing the certificate must have misunderstood, and thought, "hmm ... this is the font I used for my wedding invitations"

Michigan 16 for Trump. Addresses are given for the 16 electors. The certified margin is 10,704 votes. The Johnson (Libertarian) vote is 16.081 times as large; the Stein (Green) vote is 4.825 times as large; the Castle (U.S. Taxpayers) is 1.508 times as large; the McMullin (write-in) is 0.764 times as large. 5 of the 6 write-in candidates received more votes than they had electors. Cherunda Fox only got 10 votes for the 16 electors.

6 December (Trump 173, Clinton 66)

Illinois 20 for Clinton. The certificate begins with

TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME, GREETING;

One elector is John R Daley, who may be the grandson of Richard J Daley (the mayor), and nephew of Richard M Daley (former mayor of Chicago), and nephew of William M Daley (Obama's Chief of Staff and Bill Clinton's Secretary of Commerce). There does not appear to be an obvious (to me) large number of Polish surnames.

Virginia 13 for Clinton. I had commented earlier that the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania had a State Seal, while Kentucky had a Commonwealth Seal,  and  Massachusettensis had a Sigillum Reipublicae. Virginia does not say what kind of seal it has, but does include the state motto, and a picture of John Wilkes Booth. It proclaims that the electors for "Hillary Rodham Clinton and Tim Kaine" had been appointed. Most other states refer to the candidates as "Clinton and Kaine", or "Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine", or "Hillary Rodham Clinton and Timothy Michael Kaine". The governor Terence R. McAuliffe must be on a first name basis with Tim.

7 December (Trump 191, Clinton 100)

New Hampshire 4 for Clinton. Electors include Carol Shea-Porter and Dudley Dudley (or Dudley, Dudley).

New Jersey 14 for Clinton. Chris Christie's father, Wilbur J. Christie (83 YO) was an elector for Trump.

Ohio 18 for Trump. The results are in numerical order highest to least. At the end of the second page is a seal and the signatures of Kasich and (SOS) Husted. The third page continues with additional candidates, and at the bottom of the fourth page is a seal and the signatures of Kasich and Husted.

Rhode Island 4 for Clinton. In the past, the Rhode Island Certificate of Ascertainment has included the state canvass for all offices in Rhode Island. This year, they only include the presidential results, and invite those interested in more details to their web site. A Clinton elector is Herbert Claiborne Pell. If this is Herbert Claiborne Pell IV he is the husband of Michelle Kwan.

Washington 12 for Clinton. Electors are linked from a spreadsheet, and includes their mailing addresses. Some curiosities: The Republicans alphabetized their electors. All 12 Green electors are from Seattle. Only one Constitution elector is from west of the Cascades (Marysviile). Four pairs of Socialist Workers electors share an address, are apparently male and female, but do not have a surname in common.

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« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2016, 12:13:23 AM »

PART II

8 December (Trump 203, Clinton 139)

Arizona 11 for Trump. Gabrielle Giffords and Peterson Zah were Democratic electors.

The Republican electors show:

Lynch, Jane Pierpoint
Morgan, J. Foster

The tint on the Arizona certificate is a relief map of the state on a desert brown. It may be the only certificate with an explicit reference to Mex(ico).

Maine 3 for Clinton, 1 for Trump. The certificate lists the separate vote totals for the congressional districts:

ME-1 Clinton 54.0%, Trump 39.2%, Johnson 4.7%, Stein 1.9%; ME-2 Trump 51.3%, Clinton 41.0%, Johnson 5.5%, Stein 1.9%; for a 12.6% swing between two. There were also 184 votes from Military and Overseas not associated with a congressional district: Clinton 79.1%, Trump 17.6%, Johnson 1.6%, Stein 1.6%.

New York 29 for Clinton. Celebrity Apprentices Electors include Bill Clinton, Andrew Cuomo, Kathy Hochul, Bill de Blasio, and Christine Quinn. Donald J. Trump, Jr. was an elector nominee for his father. The certificate for New York is one page, with the canvass by the State Board of Elections on plain paper as an attachment. it lists the vote totals under New York's con-fusion law.

Oregon 7 for Clinton. Oregon, like Washington alphabetizes its elector lists.

9 December (Trump 203, Clinton 148)

Colorado 9 for Clinton. Pete Coors was a Republican elector. In addition to the 22 on-ballot candidates, there were 6 write-in candidates, only one of which who received 9 popular votes. Write-in candidates were associated with the "Green/Democratic", "Unaffiliated/Libertarian", "Unaffiliated/Republican", and "Republican" party.

12 December (Trump 248, Clinton 209)

Alabama 9 for Trump. The state canvass was completed on November 29, but the certificate of ascertainment was not completed until 12 December. It was prepared with a blank for the day, but not the month. How long did it sit in Bentley's in basket?

California 55 for Clinton. The Trump popular votes were credited to both the Republican and American Independent party slates. Under the full faith and credit clause of the US Constitution, these 4.4 million popular votes must be credited to Trump twice. Trump wins the popular vote.

Iowa 6 for Trump. The certificate only lists the party and not the presidential candidates, so it is not obvious that McMullin outpolled Stein in Iowa.

Nevada 6 for Clinton. The candidates are in reverse order of popular votes, like at a British declaration. This got me thinking. Imagine all the ballots were trucked to a counting center in each State. The news could show the trucks with police escorts speeding across the state. At the counting center hundreds or thousands of scrutineers would count the ballots. Then the results would be announced. Instead of mere rosettes, the slates of electors could have color-coordinated outfits. "Electors for Rocky De La Fuente, 2,252 votes." the six electors would somewhat sheepishly step forward, as the single exuberant support, starts to chant "Rocky, Rocky, Raw ... ki" as he realizes he is alone. As the Independent American and Libertarian totals are announced, we would still not know the final winner until the Republican total votes are announced. The electors in Nevada were granted the "right to hold, exercise and enjoy, all and singular, the powers and privileges thereof."

Pennsylvania 20 for Trump. Oddly, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania has a State seal. Kentucky has a commonwealth seal, and that from Massachusetts reads "Sigillum Reipublicę Massachusettensis" which translates as "Harvard Grads are Pretentious". Pennsylvania is one of few certificates that inform the electors of the meeting on the 19th. Arkansas is the other.

Wisconsin 10 for Trump. Wisconsin appears to use an actual wax seal.

13 December (Trump 248, Clinton 222)

District of Columbia 3 for Clinton. The District numbers their electoral colleges, this being the 14th College of Electors. None of the seven states holding their 58th College of Electors made note of that fact.

Minnesota 10 for Clinton. Minnesota has some of the most stringent and complicated faithless elector laws of any state. They require parties to name a slate of 10 elector candidates and 10 alternate elector candidates. They are also required to pledge to support the presidential and vice presidential candidate of their party. When they meet, they are required to sign their ballot. If they fail to fulfill their pledge, their vote will not be accepted, and they will deemed to have resigned. In the certificate of ascertainment, Governor Dayton asserts:

"I will certify that the electors will serve as electors unless a vacancy occurs in the office of elector before the end of the meeting at which elector votes are cast, in which case a substitute elector will fill the vacancy."

An amended Certificate of Ascertainment was issued on December 19

Minnesota had nine on-ballot candidates and 44 write-in candidates, 16 of whom received no popular votes, 16 others who had less than than 10 popular votes. Among those who received the most were candidates who included Amy Klobuchar, Jesse Ventura, and Condoleeza Rice, as their vice-presidential running mates. The elector candidate for the Jeffrey Ryan Wharton Sr.-Klobuchar ticket was Al Fraken.

Jill Stein's running mate in Minnesota was Howie Hawkins. Ajamu Baraka was a vice-presidential candidate for a write-in candidate who received zero votes.

14 December (Trump 273, Clinton 222)

TRUMP WINS                              DONALD J. TRUMP ELECTED 45TH PRESIDENT         MIKE PENCE VICE PRESIDENT[/color]
Missouri 10 for Trump. While most governors are content with an introduction followed by a tally of all electoral votes, Jeremiah Nixon repeated it for each candidate of 12 candidates. "BE IT FURTHER KNOWN, that I, JEREMIAH W. (JAY) NIXON, Governor of the State of Missouri, do hereby certify ..." Either that or Secretary of State Kander knows that Nixon hates being called Jeremiah.

North Carolina 15 for Trump. The North Carolina certificate uses a letterhead with a seal, and apparently did not require the SOS to witness the governor's signing.

15 December (Trump 287, Clinton 222)

Mississippi 6 for Trump. The Constitution Party outpolled the Green Party, and the Prohibition Party was on the ballot.

Nebraska 5 for Trump. The two-way results for three congressional districts were, from west to east: NE-3 Trump 79%:Clinton 21%; NE-1 Trump 61%:Clinton 39%; Trump 51%:Clinton 49%. NE-3 is thus the most Republican electoral unit in the country. Wyoming was 76%:24% for Trump. Nebraska includes the same caveat as Minnesota, that vacancies might occur up to the end of the meeting of the electoral college.

South Dakota 3 for Trump. South Dakota elected Governor Dennis Daugaard, Lieutenant Governor Matt Michels, and Attorney General Marty Jackley. South Dakota joins New York and Vermont as states where the governor certified his own election.

16 December (Trump 292, Clinton 222)

West Virginia 5 for Trump. West Virginia had 34 write-in candidates, including 17 who received zero votes. The 188,794 popular votes for Hillary "We're Going To Put Coal Miners Out of Business (Chopping Motion) Right, Tim (smirk)" Clinton is the fewest for a Democratic candidate in West Virginia since 1916 - and that was before the 19th Amendment. If we assume that a majority of the Clinton voters were female, then we have to go back to the 1892 election to find an election with fewer male Democratic voters.

19 December (Trump 303, Clinton 232)

Maryland 10 for Clinton. Michael Steele, former RNC Chair, was a Republican elector who announced before the general election that he would not vote for Trump or Clinton.

Tennessee 11 for Trump. The electors for each candidate are presented in alphabetical order.

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« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2016, 12:14:09 AM »

PART III

20 December (Trump 306, Clinton 232)

Montana 3 for Trump. This is an amended certificate of ascertainment. The original was apparently created on November 29, but was not posted on the Archivists web site. It includes language about the possibility of electors being replaced before the end of the electors meeting. Two of the three original electors were replaced, so I found the meeting video to figure out what happened. As it turned out, one of the electors was absent, and one who was present resigned. She is a state representative, and apparently someone raised the issue of whether she was eligible or not.

Before that, the Secretary of State, Democrat Linda McCulloch, decided that she would have a public comments section. A lady near the front immediately raised her hand. Montana is not a populous state, and people do not dress up for the legislature, probably reasoning that if it is good enough for getting varmints and rodents out of the house, it is good enough for getting varmints and rodents out of the House. They're also probably neighbors and likely know that everyone has a long gun out in their truck. So a few people speak in favor of Trump, and the elector who would resign went into the audience and brought up her grandson, who appears to be six or eight, and placed a chair for him to stand on so he could reach the microphone. He said something about "Trump had won the electors". The first Trump supporter, had to keep coming up to adjust the microphone, since nobody knew to speak into the microphone. Then there were a few opponents. Nobody advocated for an alternate candidate, but they were opposed to Trump, and all addressed the electors, who were sitting off to the side. Those favoring Trump spoke to the audience. The lady who raised her hand initially, said she wished that the electors would say why they were voting for Trump, other than that it was the law. She looked like she was 70 or so, and I wonder if she had talked McCulloch into opening the meeting to public comment.

Then the actual meeting began. The roll of electors was taken, and then the elector who was resigning was given the opportunity to resign. She said she was resigning, but was clearly in favor of Trump, and said that it was very important for her grandchildren to witness the election of Trump. She then went at sat with her family. After about a minute, they got up and left, and so her grandchildren never got to see the actual election.

The two alternates who were present filled the two vacancies. After the three electors were sworn in, they conducted the meeting (using a script provided by the SOS).

Minnesota Clinton 20. This is an amended Certificate of Ascertainment (it is at the end of the original PDF). It shows Jill Garcia as an elector, and claims that she 1,367,716 votes. Her position as alternate elector is noted as being vacant. There is no mention of the original elector, who is now officially a non-person.
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