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« on: December 10, 2016, 07:15:38 PM »

They care more about having low taxes than they do about protecting America from authoritarianism and Russian influence.

Ironic that the party whose vice presidential candidate triumphantly declared her party represented the "pro-American" parts of the country is now so anti-American.
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2016, 07:26:59 PM »

authoritarianism and Russian influence.

Did I drive too fast in the Delorean again?  Is Michael Jackson still alive?  And is he still black?
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2016, 07:28:51 PM »

They care more about having low taxes than they do about protecting America from authoritarianism and Russian influence.

Ironic that the party whose vice presidential candidate triumphantly declared her party represented the "pro-American" parts of the country is now so anti-American.

The idea of the Russians interfering with our Elections is a bunch of ridiculous horsesh*t by people who can't come to grips that they lost the Election. It's absurd to try to blame Russia for the problems of the Democratic Party and it's also absurd of the media trying to Blacklist people they don't like by saying they work for Russia. Just get a grip and get ready for the 2020 Elections.
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2016, 09:49:48 PM »

The primary goal of a politician is not to have any kind of integrity or give a crap about the people or America but rather to win elections. If you win then anything is okay. Trump won so now he is okay even though he was bad when people thought he would lose. It is unfortunate but it is reality and it is why if you ask what is worse than a criminal the answer is a politician.
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2016, 10:14:05 PM »

This is mildly interesting.

The left and their media spent decades savaging Republicans in elected office.

Today, the left and their media actually think that Republicans in elected office somehow need to bother impressing them with some sort of public display of piety, or something along those lines.   As if these people are the gatekeepers into heaven or something...All politicians are supposed to want to impress the white liberals!

Trump the Great smashed that illusion.....and here we are. Wailing impotent rage is the best rage!

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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2016, 10:59:41 PM »

Wailing impotent rage is the best rage!
You speak like someone who has experienced wailing impotent rage and liked being impotent. In that case, I wish you to personally have only the best in the future.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2016, 09:19:37 PM »


The left right and their media spent decades savaging Republicans Democrats in elected office.

Today, the left right and their media actually think that Republicans Democrats in elected office somehow need to bother impressing them with some sort of public display of piety, or something along those lines. As if these people are the gatekeepers into heaven or something...All politicians are supposed to want to impress the white liberals conservatives!

Virtue signalling is a bipartisan affair.

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He smashed the illusion that we possess any true reverence for the moral high ground in politics and rather automatically bestow it on the team wearing our jersey. "Belief as attire" if you will, we are divided into tribalistic mindsets due to the cancer of identitarian politics.

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After 8 years of bitching about Obama as the literal antichrist, the right should hardly be shocked when others follow the precedent they set.
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2016, 09:51:39 PM »

It's pretty simple.

America has been sliding economically because of the influence of globalisation for some time. Being the global police force costs a lot of coin.

In 2016, the American people listened to the Democrats proposals and the Republicans proposals and thought "sounds like the same CNN based horsesh**t to me", and started looking at anti-eatablishment candidates like Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump.

Laying the blame on the Republicans is not going to fly  After the primaries, the party were in the 737 upside down heading into a death spiral locked out of the cockpit with Donald Trump at the wheel.

Due to the high G-Forces, they lost consciousness and when they regained it, they were safely parked on the runway with no casualties trying to figure out what just happened.

Donald landed the job almost on his own.


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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2016, 10:27:37 PM »

... Did you just have to shout this out to someone, or was there a trigger?  Lol
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2016, 12:13:45 AM »

The idea of the Russians interfering with our Elections is a bunch of ridiculous horsesh*t by people who can't come to grips that they lost the Election. It's absurd to try to blame Russia for the problems of the Democratic Party and it's also absurd of the media trying to Blacklist people they don't like by saying they work for Russia. Just get a grip and get ready for the 2020 Elections.

You realize the malware used in the first hack of the DNC was identified as known software belonging to long-time Russian espionage groups, right? I can tell you right now that repurposing these forms of malware would (often) be extraordinarily difficult if not impossible for numerous reasons, with one being the lack of backend files that would be needed to even operate it. Further, the malware from the 2nd hack was specifically modified if not built entirely for this operation, given that, afaik, wasn't found anywhere else in its original form, and it used similar resources/C2 servers as those from attacks in Europe, which were previously identified as coming from the Russia. I mean you can't ask for more than that - it's one thing to magically steal/modify someone else's malware, but using their servers too? Come on.

Look, I get it. You read all these stories with people pointing fingers and "anonymous" sources, so I'm not going to contribute to that. But I am going to tell you that the technical data available on this points to 2 well-known Russian espionage groups. This is something none of ya'll ever seem to acknowledge. You can keep denying Russia was involved, but if you want to do that you also need to explain away the technical aspects of this.
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2016, 12:19:03 AM »

if the republican party doesn't care that the whole world wanders into authoritarianism and sees fear of russian interference only as partisan politics, it deserve every outcome of trump's regency.
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2016, 01:04:17 AM »

The idea of the Russians interfering with our Elections is a bunch of ridiculous horsesh*t by people who can't come to grips that they lost the Election. It's absurd to try to blame Russia for the problems of the Democratic Party and it's also absurd of the media trying to Blacklist people they don't like by saying they work for Russia. Just get a grip and get ready for the 2020 Elections.

You realize the malware used in the first hack of the DNC was identified as known software belonging to long-time Russian espionage groups, right? I can tell you right now that repurposing these forms of malware would (often) be extraordinarily difficult if not impossible for numerous reasons, with one being the lack of backend files that would be needed to even operate it. Further, the malware from the 2nd hack was specifically modified if not built entirely for this operation, given that, afaik, wasn't found anywhere else in its original form, and it used similar resources/C2 servers as those from attacks in Europe, which were previously identified as coming from the Russia. I mean you can't ask for more than that - it's one thing to magically steal/modify someone else's malware, but using their servers too? Come on.

Look, I get it. You read all these stories with people pointing fingers and "anonymous" sources, so I'm not going to contribute to that. But I am going to tell you that the technical data available on this points to 2 well-known Russian espionage groups. This is something none of ya'll ever seem to acknowledge. You can keep denying Russia was involved, but if you want to do that you also need to explain away the technical aspects of this.
How do we know any malware was discovered. How would we know that that's not more disinformation?
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2016, 02:17:25 AM »

How do we know any malware was discovered. How would we know that that's not more disinformation?

http://www.welivesecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/eset-sednit-part-2.pdf
http://www.threatgeek.com/2016/06/dnc_update.html
https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/

and an automated analysis

hxxps://www.threatminer.org/sample.php?q=40ae43b7d6c413becc92b07076fa128b875c8dbb4da7c036639eccf5a9fc784f


The first link is a comprehensive analysis of the malware and its corresponding family / group by ESET, a well-known and respected AntiVirus firm. Further, AntiVirus companies have made signatures for this malware already to try and prevent future attacks.

This is not a mystery and there is legitimate proof of this software. This is what I mean. So much talk, yet such little acknowledgement of basic facts.


* correction from first post, the malware from the 2nd hack was a modified version of existing malware (XTunnel)
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