Trump speaks with the President of Taiwan, risking rift with China

[The Other Castro]

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https://www.ft.com/content/fd19907e-b8d4-11e6-961e-a1acd97f622d

[Classic Conservative]

I hope we give recognition to the ROC

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

I hope we give recognition to the ROC

How about not creating a giant rift with a vital trading partner and powerful force on the global stage. This kind of thing is incredibly risky and should not be done without massive consideration of the consequences.

[Blue3]

I hope we give recognition to the ROC

How about not creating a giant rift with a vital trading partner and powerful force on the global stage. This kind of thing is incredibly risky and should not be done without massive consideration of the consequences.

He campaigned on doibg that anyways.

We've always been allied with Eurasia, we've always been at war with Eastasia!

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

I hope we give recognition to the ROC

How about not creating a giant rift with a vital trading partner and powerful force on the global stage. This kind of thing is incredibly risky and should not be done without massive consideration of the consequences.

If America collectively cared about consequences, we would not have elected President Pussygrabber.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Very brave for Trump to stand up and do the right thing unlike all the cowards before him (even if it is out of complete ignorance)

[Santander]

Very brave for Trump to stand up and do the right thing unlike all the cowards before him (even if it is out of complete ignorance)

Yeah. Unwittingly, he's just made one of the greatest US foreign policy achievements of the past 50 years.

Taiwan is a top issue for me (up there with life and Israel), and this just makes me so happy.

[Gass3268]

First Pakistan and now this, we are all going to die.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

America is screwed.

[Green Line]

Great news.  The ROC deserves its seat on the Security Council back!

[Classic Conservative]

Great news.  The ROC deserves its seat on the Security Council back!

[Blue3]

First Pakistan and now this, we are all going to die.

What with Pakistan? I heard their office screwed up but not Trump...

[Virginiá]

Yeah. Unwittingly, he's just made one of the greatest US foreign policy achievements of the past 50 years.

You don't have any qualms with the president of the united states unwittingly implementing foreign policy? That doesn't bother at you at all? How long do you think that kind of bumbling leadership is going to pay dividends for America?

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Lincoln questions the practice of slavery.

How about now questioning a vital trading partner and powerful group within our nation that will set off a war? Battling with a trading partner presents an incredible risk for our economy and national survival.

Let's not raise the price of textiles by making cotton expensive to produce. Economics, duh.

No president has questioned the practice of slavery for over 20 years! Now a 2-year inexperienced congressman from Hicksville struts on in without a clue!

[The Other Castro]

I don't inherently have a problem with reform of this relationship itself, but the manner in which such reform be carried out must be handled extremely delicately. Words have tremendous power and great consequences in these types of situations.

[The Other Castro]

And here's the tweet:

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  5m5 minutes ago
The President of Taiwan CALLED ME today to wish me congratulations on winning the Presidency. Thank you!


Edit: I've rephrased the thread title for clarity.

[7,052,770]

Lincoln questions the practice of slavery.

How about now questioning a vital trading partner and powerful group within our nation that will set off a war? Battling with a trading partner presents an incredible risk for our economy and national survival.

Let's not raise the price of textiles by making cotton expensive to produce. Economics, duh.

No president has questioned the practice of slavery for over 20 years! Now a 2-year inexperienced congressman from Hicksville struts on in without a clue!

Horrible analogy is horrible. Slavery had been a controversial opinion for nearly 100 years by 1860, with plenty of prominent politicians, including several presidents, against it. It was a major issue that led to the formation of the Republican Party, and voters knew exactly what they were doing when they elected Lincoln.

This is coming straight out of left field and in all likelihood Trump didn't even know what he was doing. There has been no prominent political movement advocating this. It certainly wasn't a centerpiece of Trump's campaign or a reason anyone voted for him.

[The Other Castro]

Rep. Peter King praises the call:

Rep. Pete King ‏@RepPeteKing
Plaudits to President-elect Trump for his historic phone call to Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen. Strong message to China. New day in Asia.

[The Other Castro]

Report from Taipei Times on the call's scheduling:

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http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2016/12/03/2003660473

[Fusionmunster]

Trump is one big blunder after another.

[Fusionmunster]

And here's the tweet:

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  5m5 minutes ago
The President of Taiwan CALLED ME today to wish me congratulations on winning the Presidency. Thank you!


Edit: I've rephrased the thread title for clarity.

More to the point, he shouldn't even have the words "President of Taiwan" anywhere near a tweet. Please twitter, for the sake of the country and world peace, ban him from twitter.

[Santander]

Yeah. Unwittingly, he's just made one of the greatest US foreign policy achievements of the past 50 years.

You don't have any qualms with the president of the united states unwittingly implementing foreign policy? That doesn't bother at you at all? How long do you think that kind of bumbling leadership is going to pay dividends for America?

Trump's open hostility towards China was one of my primary reasons for supporting him, so I was kind of hoping this would happen. I know I will not be happy with everything he does as President, but I pray for him and hope that he surrounds himself with good people who can help him deliver "victories" for America to restore our self-esteem just like Ronald Reagan did in the 1980s.

[Virginiá]

Lincoln questions the practice of slavery.

How about now questioning a vital trading partner and powerful group within our nation that will set off a war? Battling with a trading partner presents an incredible risk for our economy and national survival.

Let's not raise the price of textiles by making cotton expensive to produce. Economics, duh.

No president has questioned the practice of slavery for over 20 years! Now a 2-year inexperienced congressman from Hicksville struts on in without a clue!

I think you are missing my point Sprouts. It's not like you can't get something good from mistakes, but that doesn't mean it's good to make them. Are you saying it's no biggie to make mistakes because sometimes it'll change history?

Personally, I support Taiwan regarding this issue, but I have to wonder if it bothers any Trump supporters out there that their president-elect is clueless on so much policy, both foreign and domestic. It leads to blunders, which can accidentally result in good things and also really bad things. Even surrounding yourself with the "best people" (he's not, he's surrounding himself with loyalists) doesn't make up for a severe lack of knowledge on basically all of govt/policy/diplomacy/etc. They can't carry all the weight.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I fail to see how this is in any way a blunder.

I wasn't calling you out though, so

[Virginiá]

I fail to see how this is in any way a blunder.

So you believe Trump knew exactly what he was doing and what response(s) it could potentially evoke?