Would Kanye West have a greater effect on 2020 if he runs as Dem or independent?

[DPKdebator]

Since Kanye West says he'll run for president in 2020, do you think that Kanye West would cause a crazier election result if he is the Democratic nominee or if he ends up running as an independent (either from the start or after losing the nomination).

I would say Kanye would cause a greater change if he is the Democratic nominee, as it would mean he is the nominee of a major political party, whereas if he is an independent he will mostly get voted for as either a protest or joke vote.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Kanye West is a jackass.

That is all.

[An American Tail: Fubart Goes West]

Kanye West is a jackass.

That is all.

Yes. Yes he is. http://youtu.be/078BGtKNL1o

[Pericles]

Kanye West is a jackass.

That is all.

That didn't stop Donald Trump. Besides, at least Kanye hasn't committed sexual assault(as far as we know). Regardless, neither Kanye or Trump should be President.

[Crumpets]

Easily independent. If he runs as a Democrat, he'll get a few percent and be out of the picture by mid spring. If he runs as an independent and takes even a few percent of the black/millennial/apathetic vote in the general, it'll basically doom any Democrat.

[Pessimistic Antineutrino]

If he runs as a Democrat, he'll get a few percent and be out of the picture by mid spring.

Remember that's what they said about Trump...

[publicunofficial]

I halfway expect Kanye to run as a Republican.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Kanye West is a jackass.

That is all.

That didn't stop Donald Trump. Besides, at least Kanye hasn't committed sexual assault(as far as we know). Regardless, neither Kanye or Trump should be President.

Sexual assault?  Like Bill Clinton?  JINKIES!

Donald Trump ran a massive international business.  Kanye West can't run himself.

[Pandaguineapig]

He should run as a green party candidate, would almost certainly get the nomination

[BaldEagle1991]

He should run as a green party candidate, would almost certainly get the nomination

You know the base of the Green party is left-leaning conspiracy types. They probably wouldn't like Kanye's massive wealth being a nod to Wall Street and all.

He'll do well in the Dem primary. Sadly he'll probably get the nomination.

[Crumpets]

He should run as a green party candidate, would almost certainly get the nomination

You know the base of the Green party is left-leaning conspiracy types. They probably wouldn't like Kanye's massive wealth being a nod to Wall Street and all.

He'll do well in the Dem primary. Sadly he'll probably get the nomination.

But who actually likes Kanye? Unlike Trump, whose message actually resonated with a good section of the electorate and who appealed to people's base emotions, what could Kanye possibly have to offer? Could he even build enough of a team to get on ballots? Trump was at least a businessman who understands the basic motions of running for President. Does Kanye?

[JJC]

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This reminded of a quote from Peggy Noonan in Oct 2015;

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[AtorBoltox]

Stop trying to make Kanye West happen, it's not happening. Even putting aside his complete lack of experience, common sense and intelligence, he recently praised Trump at one of his concerts and said he would have voted for him. That would sink his chances instantly.

[progressive85]

After what he did to Taylor Swift, I don't even listen to his music anymore.

[libertpaulian]

Stop trying to make Kanye West happen, it's not happening. Even putting aside his complete lack of experience, common sense and intelligence, he recently praised Trump at one of his concerts and said he would have voted for him. That would sink his chances instantly.

*cough* Donald Trump *cough*

[Stranger in a strange land]

I think most liberals are misunderstanding the reason for the rise of Trump and his success. Trump, say what you will about him, at least had a consistent message that resonated with the electorate: "The system is rigged, the elites are not on your side, but I am and I alone can fix it." What's Kanye's message going to be?

[Crumpets]

Stop trying to make Kanye West happen, it's not happening. Even putting aside his complete lack of experience, common sense and intelligence, he recently praised Trump at one of his concerts and said he would have voted for him. That would sink his chances instantly.

*cough* Donald Trump *cough*

I think most liberals are misunderstanding the reason for the rise of Trump and his success. Trump, say what you will about him, at least had a consistent message that resonated with the electorate: "The system is rigged, the elites are not on your side, but I am and I alone can fix it." What's Kanye's message going to be?

I can see it now...

Moderator: Mr. West, how do you respond to those who say you have none of the necessary experience to be president and have vague and unrealistic campaign promises?

Kanye: I will try to answer it again for you, as clearly as I can, because the question you're asking is, "What kind of qualifications does Kanye West have to be president," "What kind of qualifications do I have," and "What would I do in this kind of a situation?" And what would I do in this situation? [...] I have as much experience in politics as Donald Trump did when he sought the presidency. I will be prepared to deal with the responsibilities of being president and the people in the my administration, if I am elected.

Moderator: President Trump?

Trump: Kanye, I know Donald Trump. I am Donald Trump. Donald Trump's a yuge friend of mine - big league good guy, great president. Kanye, you're no Donald Trump.

[BaldEagle1991]

Stop trying to make Kanye West happen, it's not happening. Even putting aside his complete lack of experience, common sense and intelligence, he recently praised Trump at one of his concerts and said he would have voted for him. That would sink his chances instantly.

*cough* Donald Trump *cough*

I think most liberals are misunderstanding the reason for the rise of Trump and his success. Trump, say what you will about him, at least had a consistent message that resonated with the electorate: "The system is rigged, the elites are not on your side, but I am and I alone can fix it." What's Kanye's message going to be?

I can see it now...

Moderator: Mr. West, how do you respond to those who say you have none of the necessary experience to be president and have vague and unrealistic campaign promises?

Kanye: I will try to answer it again for you, as clearly as I can, because the question you're asking is, "What kind of qualifications does Kanye West have to be president," "What kind of qualifications do I have," and "What would I do in this kind of a situation?" And what would I do in this situation? [...] I have as much experience in politics as Donald Trump did when he sought the presidency. I will be prepared to deal with the responsibilities of being president and the people in the my administration, if I am elected.

Moderator: President Trump?

Trump: Kanye, I know Donald Trump. I am Donald Trump. Donald Trump's a yuge friend of mine - big league good guy, great president. Kanye, you're no Donald Trump.

That's when I'll pack my bags and move to Canada or the UK.

[KoiBean]

Kanye would for sure have to at least give it a good go in the Dem's primaries to get some traction. It would really have to depend a lot on what the first term of Trump looks like, but Kanye might have a slight chance at being a decent political opponent. Right now it looks like a lot of Dems might try to shy away from identity politics to appease some more socially conservative white voters. Kanye could tap into a bloc of nonwhites in the Democratic primaries that feel angry and left out because many old white politicians have abandoned them. With a mix of the name recognition, populist appeal, and a strong charismatic persona, this is the celebrity Democratic Anti-Trump that could be a thing.

[justfollowingtheelections]

Since Kanye West says he'll run for president in 2020, do you think that Kanye West would cause a crazier election result if he is the Democratic nominee or if he ends up running as an independent (either from the start or after losing the nomination).

I would say Kanye would cause a greater change if he is the Democratic nominee, as it would mean he is the nominee of a major political party, whereas if he is an independent he will mostly get voted for as either a protest or joke vote.

Why would he run as a Democrat when he's a Trump supporter?

[Coolface Sock #42069]

Since the possibilities of him running as a Republican, Democrat, and Green have already been raised, I figure I might as well make the obligatory claim:

Kanye West will be running for president as a Libertarian.

[KoiBean]

Since Kanye West says he'll run for president in 2020, do you think that Kanye West would cause a crazier election result if he is the Democratic nominee or if he ends up running as an independent (either from the start or after losing the nomination).

I would say Kanye would cause a greater change if he is the Democratic nominee, as it would mean he is the nominee of a major political party, whereas if he is an independent he will mostly get voted for as either a protest or joke vote.

Why would he run as a Democrat when he's a Trump supporter?

Trump supported many democrats and even gave $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation. It isn't impossible for Kanye to spin it, especially if Trump continues to displease non-whites.

[BlueSwan]

Kanye West is not happening. The Dem base is not as crazy as the GOP base. Two different worlds. Our fringe is the far left Bernie-Bros and they are not voting for Kanye. Kanye's base would be the people who only vote to protest the "system" and there aren't anywhere near enough of those voters in the party that usually nominate liberal technocrats (Hillary, Kerry, Gore) without too much fuss.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

He should run as a green party candidate, would almost certainly get the nomination

You know the base of the Green party is left-leaning conspiracy types. They probably wouldn't like Kanye's massive wealth being a nod to Wall Street and all.

He'll do well in the Dem primary. Sadly he'll probably get the nomination.

Why would a guy who said he didn't vote and would've voted Trump if he did win the nomination?

You can't just say "muh black vote". I don't remember Al Sharpton coming close to winning the 2004 nomination.

[Stranger in a strange land]

Allow me to be brutally honest here for a moment. Kanye is not going to win the Black vote in the Democratic Primary:

1) Black millennials, the segment of the African-American Community most likely to know who West is and care what he has to say, have absolutely terrible turnout.
2) Older Black voters, particularly older Black women, are the ones who actually vote in Democratic primaries
3) The fact that Kanye is married to a White Woman and lives with a rich White Family in LA is not going to be viewed positively by much of the Black Community, especially the older women who are most likely to actually vote.