New drinking age!

[KillerPollo]

Well, it is my firm opinion that beer should be put on vending machines. I mean, why not? There are some countries that do it, so why not USA?
I mean REALLY! In the United States, beer is almost like a demonic thing to drink. it is banned in campuses, cafeterias, and fast food restaurants. I'm just here to say that people should be reasonable and allow beer everywhere. I have told this to many people and they agree w/ me. except for some liberal biotches who think that beer should be benned in specific places cause alcohol is a controlled substance, and if we were to put beer on vending machines, then they'd have to make sure that EVERYONE who got near that machine was over the age of 21... so i said:  you! they should lower the drinking age in the 1st place, cause 21 is not a specific age. i mean, WHAT happens physically when u turn 21? tell me! I mean. remember smoking? it used to be allowed everywhere, but now in CAliforniya, u can't even smoke in ur back yard. If the Europeans can see alcoholic beverages as wholesome, why not US? i mean, if ure here in the US and dare drink an ounce of beer b4 ure 21, you're a HERETIC!

well, this thread will not just be about beer in Vending Machines, but is also designed for u to post whatever thing u believe people should do, or should be done, or just to propose something that u believe would change society as we know it.

[Richard]

Before you get to drink beer, you need to learn grammar and spelling.  I need a beer just to read that.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I say lower it to 18, but I quit caring once I turned 21 anyway. Just too bad freshman chicks can't go to the bars, since they'd be the easiest to pick up.

[opebo]

The State need not interfere in this private activity, which harms no one.

[Q]

The current policies suggest that though a 18- to 20-year-old is mature enough to be forced to die in combat or kill someone else, he is not mature enough to consume alcohol.

[Rob]

Abolish it.

[muon2]

I disagree about the places where you say it is banned. Many cafeterias in the US do sell beer. The check out person has the responsibility to verify that the age requirement is met.

Fast food restaurants also sell beer. It is usually market-driven and certain foods come with a greater expectation that beer would go well. For instance, the Pizza Hut in town has a license for beer, as does a local fast-food sandwich shop.

[Platypus]

18 to purchase, but whenever to be able to drink with parental permission. In Australia, I think it's from birth or like three years old or whatever.

16 year olds will drink. It's going to happen. But I don't think we should make it too easy for them, just not totally illegal.

[Ebowed]

The pragmatist in me says lower it to 18.  The libertarian in me says abolish it.  Either way, it's ridiculous that citizens can go to war but cannot drink alcohol.  (And a side note: some liberal groups in South Carolina want to raise the age to 25.)

[Alcon]

The pragmatist in me says lower it to 18.  The libertarian in me says abolish it.  Either way, it's ridiculous that citizens can go to war but cannot drink alcohol.  (And a side note: some liberal groups in South Carolina want to raise the age to 25.)

This pretty much sums up exactly other I was going to say, sans the part about South Carolina, which I know nothing about.

[dazzleman]

The current policies suggest that though a 18- to 20-year-old is mature enough to be forced to die in combat or kill someone else, he is not mature enough to consume alcohol.

^^^^^

[MaC]

The pragmatist in me says lower it to 18.  The libertarian in me says abolish it.  Either way, it's ridiculous that citizens can go to war but cannot drink alcohol. 

Richius's comment too, learn some better spelling KillerPollo.  I mean I laughed my ass off at 'liberal biotches', but you should still improve it quite a bit...

[minionofmidas]

Here: Keep as is.
US: Lower to 16.

[MaC]

Here: Keep as is.
US: Lower to 16.

isn't that a double standard?

[minionofmidas]

No, since it already is at 16 here. Well, for beer and wine and Apfelwein actually, for hard liquor it's 18.

[MaC]

No, since it already is at 16 here. Well, for beer and wine and Apfelwein actually, for hard liquor it's 18.

ah, I thought it was abolished in Germany.

[minionofmidas]

You're technically right actually; 16 or 18 is the legal age of purchase. Same thing with drug use - it's not illegal. Possession is. It's just the way the logic works.

[© tweed]

18

[KillerPollo]

The pragmatist in me says lower it to 18.  The libertarian in me says abolish it.  Either way, it's ridiculous that citizens can go to war but cannot drink alcohol. 

Richius's comment too, learn some better spelling KillerPollo.  I mean I laughed my ass off at 'liberal biotches', but you should still improve it quite a bit...

I spelled it like that on purpose

Also, IMO the united states is the laughing-stock of all drinking ages. I mean! we gotta lower it! what happens at age 21?
do you grow extra arms or something? do you instantly develop some immunity to alcohol?
Well, keep in mind that i'm not including countries that ban alcohol altogether (ie Saudi Arabia)

[Redefeatbush04]

19 to purchase....but with parental permission anyone over the age of 12 should be allowed to drink. 19 keeps it out of high schools, but makes it more accessable for college students and young adults. Kids will drink anyway. Might as well make it in a safe environment supervised by parents.

[AkSaber]

I'm confused. Isn't legalizing alcohol at a certain age a state's issue? Or is it a federal one? Is it the same with cigarettes?

[Erc]

I repeat my comment from another thread on this topic...

19 is the magic number.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Lower it to 18, not like everyone hasn't had a beer by the age of 16 anyway.....

[PADem]

New Zealand used to have a compromise sort of system

One could drink and purchase alcohol at 18 with parental (someone over 20) supervision

Once you reached 20 you could do what you liked.

[A18]

Abolish it.

I agree that would be ideal, but probably too radical for the country right now. I would just try to lower it to 18.

Mostly what needs to happen is that the feds need to quit blackmailing the states by threatening to withhold funding unless they keep the drinking age at 21.

I bet we could get rid of seat belt laws in several states as well if not for denial of federal funds.