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« on: December 05, 2016, 03:01:24 AM »

If the above comes to pass, and Trump either attacks China, or provokes them into attacking... what would the results be?
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2016, 09:32:39 AM »

3-17 days of fighting before the PRC surrenders.  Depends on how long they want to get their ass handed to them.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2016, 10:58:46 AM »

You wake up from your stupid dream.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2016, 11:10:19 AM »

With the racist idiot you elected, anything is possible.

3-17 days of fighting before the PRC surrenders.  Depends on how long they want to get their ass handed to them.
It would be the other way around.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2016, 04:37:52 PM »

With the racist idiot you elected, anything is possible.

3-17 days of fighting before the PRC surrenders.  Depends on how long they want to get their ass handed to them.
It would be the other way around.

Just because you want China to win doesn't mean it will happen.

Also, there will be no war. Won't even come close.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2016, 05:11:49 PM »

China would lose in a naval fight in the area. An invasion of Taiwan is a pipe dream.
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2016, 05:30:11 PM »

The last thing we want to do is make this already incredibly unstable situation even more heated. If Trump were smart, he wouldn't butt his head into this at all.
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2016, 07:47:10 PM »

Nuclear war. 1 bln. Chinese and 200 mln Americans die.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2016, 01:42:52 AM »

This is weird. Would Trump do anything dumb that would cause China to invade Taiwan?
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2016, 05:12:35 AM »


Well, yeah.

That being said, wars happen if at least one has an...interest...in making war. My mind is weak enough to think people don't make it for the sake of toying arround.
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2016, 04:29:03 PM »

With the racist idiot you elected, anything is possible.

3-17 days of fighting before the PRC surrenders.  Depends on how long they want to get their ass handed to them.
It would be the other way around.

Ahahahaha.

China will not be defeating the US dear deluded Jerry.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2016, 05:08:52 PM »

Anyone who thinks China would "get their asses handed to them" in a war with the U.S. is not familiar with their military build up and modernization.
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2016, 05:22:08 PM »

With the racist idiot you elected, anything is possible.

3-17 days of fighting before the PRC surrenders.  Depends on how long they want to get their ass handed to them.
It would be the other way around.

Ahahahaha.

China will not be defeating the US dear deluded Jerry.
Never underestimate the might of those against you.  It always leads to failure.
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2016, 05:57:46 PM »

With the racist idiot you elected, anything is possible.

3-17 days of fighting before the PRC surrenders.  Depends on how long they want to get their ass handed to them.
It would be the other way around.

Ahahahaha.

China will not be defeating the US dear deluded Jerry.
Never underestimate the might of those against you.  It always leads to failure.

     If you were charged with planning the war effort, or at least were a close adviser of someone who were, this would be brilliant advice.
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2016, 06:26:55 PM »

The war would be over in hours, and the whole world with it.
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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2016, 06:35:33 PM »

I've seen the opinions of both Americans and Chinese and each tend to be confident about 'winning'. This is sad because it makes war more likely.

My view is that it's insane. Neither side is going to conquer the other through a land invasion. That makes a conventional unconditional surrender extremely unlikely. Given the nationalistic feelings aroused by war, conditional surrender would also be very unlikely. That means there's a high chance it could continue until it escalates to an intercontinental nuclear exchange, even if it doesn't start out that way.

Even if one side does win, let's say we defeat them, we will only have earned the permanent emnity of 1.35 billion people for generations. They are still resentful of Japan! That could mean another war later down the line, or Chinese support for our enemies in any other conflicts that arise in the future.
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2016, 06:51:14 PM »

We pull a classic "America". US wins the battles, China wins the war (eventually).

-We're fighting a war to separate two peoples with history, race, and geography in common
-China's gameplan here is to sink an Aircraft Carrier with guided missiles. The US would take more casualties than Vietnam in an afternoon if they were successful
-The US military is still superior to the Chinese
-China has a billion more people than the USA
-The USA is very divided, and extremely far away from the conflict zone
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2016, 10:36:36 PM »

Just to cheer everybody up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIoBrob3bjI
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2016, 08:17:30 AM »

Anyone who thinks China would "get their asses handed to them" in a war with the U.S. is not familiar with their military build up and modernization.
Anyone that thinks the PRC could somehow "win" in this stupid, impossible scenario has no clue how sh**tty the PLA is.  Yeah, they are WAY ahead of were they were 2 decades ago.  That's great, they are still well behind where we were 2 decades ago.
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2016, 12:51:30 PM »

I do know that China, at least allegedly, has a "no-first use" doctrine on nuclear weapons, so that COULD make a Sino-US conflict slightly less dangerous than a Russo-US conflict.
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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2016, 01:34:35 PM »

I can't imagine it would be much worse than the 2nd Taiwan Strait Crisis in the 50s unless Trump is actually rooting for full-scale war.
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2016, 05:54:48 PM »

If China got into any "hot" conflict with the U.S., it would be the end for the Chinese communist party.  So they won't do it.
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2016, 06:35:19 PM »

For the life of me, I don't understand how conservatives can love Russia but hate China. Russia and China are the firmest allies of each other, equally underhanded despotic anti-American regimes, but China is not militarily endangering us the way Russia clearly is. Yes, China clearly endangers our Asian allies -- but so does Russia with our European ones, and the right wingers voice little concern over them. Do they hate China for being non-white? For taking their jobs?
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2016, 08:37:41 PM »

I believe China doesn't have a nuclear capability against the U.S. like Russia does.
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2016, 10:08:12 PM »

Do they hate China for being non-white?

Yes, they do.
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