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« on: December 05, 2016, 08:10:16 AM »

Hopefully the headline is hyperbolic, but not good news! The pot issue needs to go the way of SSM - it's over honey, let's move on. Sessions finally got used to the idea of persons of color having equal rights. He now needs to get used to pot.
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2016, 08:17:49 AM »

You startled me for a minute, Torie, because my skimming of this article brought nothing that we didn't already know.  Sessions hasn't spoken about marijuana since early this year nor has he released any plans about what he'll do as AG, yet.

Tom McClintock's optimistic that he'll tread carefully on this one.  That's something good to take from the article, I guess.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2016, 08:26:32 AM »

Hopefully the headline is hyperbolic, but not good news! The pot issue needs to go the way of SSM - it's over honey, let's move on. Sessions finally got used to the idea of persons of color having equal rights. He now needs to get used to pot.

*sigh

Just stop this stupidity. Please.

Being a strong political advocate does not mean you have to demonize your opposition just to make yourself feel superior. It does not mean you have to believe every piece of anti-opposition lie that gets pumped out when - deep down - you know it's garbage.

Sessions not only has a long history of defending civil rights, but has also specifically gone after and convicted KKK members who have sought to suppress minorities in the past. Many minority activists have publicly supported him and thanked him for his efforts. He's certainly done a lot more than you will ever do for equality.

So just stop this garbage. If liberals want to continue to have their main platform be 'you're a racist/sexist/homophobe if you disagree with me!', then your party will continue to lose.

Stop being willfully ignorant.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2016, 09:54:03 AM »

How are the chances that the senate rejects his nomination? It wouldn’t be the first time (though the previous one was for a judge’s post).
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2016, 10:27:07 AM »

Hopefully the headline is hyperbolic, but not good news! The pot issue needs to go the way of SSM - it's over honey, let's move on. Sessions finally got used to the idea of persons of color having equal rights. He now needs to get used to pot.

*sigh

Just stop this stupidity. Please.

Being a strong political advocate does not mean you have to demonize your opposition just to make yourself feel superior. It does not mean you have to believe every piece of anti-opposition lie that gets pumped out when - deep down - you know it's garbage.

Sessions not only has a long history of defending civil rights, but has also specifically gone after and convicted KKK members who have sought to suppress minorities in the past. Many minority activists have publicly supported him and thanked him for his efforts. He's certainly done a lot more than you will ever do for equality.

So just stop this garbage. If liberals want to continue to have their main platform be 'you're a racist/sexist/homophobe if you disagree with me!', then your party will continue to lose.

Stop being willfully ignorant.

I see why you would be disturbed about Sessions being anti-legal marijuana. The potent supply of marijuana you're intaking must be of amazing quality. I'll need to look into the quality of Texas weed, after all.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2016, 10:31:13 AM »

How are the chances that the senate rejects his nomination? It wouldn’t be the first time (though the previous one was for a judge’s post).
Considering he is a sitting US Senator and the GOP controls the Senate, nil.
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2016, 10:39:44 AM »

How are the chances that the senate rejects his nomination? It wouldn’t be the first time (though the previous one was for a judge’s post).
Considering he is a sitting US Senator and the GOP controls the Senate, nil.

By a majority of two seats. Maybe someone like Rand Paul or Jeff Flake votes against him (assuming no single Democrat votes aye).
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2016, 11:49:27 AM »

Hopefully the headline is hyperbolic, but not good news! The pot issue needs to go the way of SSM - it's over honey, let's move on. Sessions finally got used to the idea of persons of color having equal rights. He now needs to get used to pot.

*sigh

Just stop this stupidity. Please.

Being a strong political advocate does not mean you have to demonize your opposition just to make yourself feel superior. It does not mean you have to believe every piece of anti-opposition lie that gets pumped out when - deep down - you know it's garbage.

Sessions not only has a long history of defending civil rights, but has also specifically gone after and convicted KKK members who have sought to suppress minorities in the past. Many minority activists have publicly supported him and thanked him for his efforts. He's certainly done a lot more than you will ever do for equality.

So just stop this garbage. If liberals want to continue to have their main platform be 'you're a racist/sexist/homophobe if you disagree with me!', then your party will continue to lose.

Stop being willfully ignorant.

Please tell me what you really think. No reason to bottle it all up inside you.
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2016, 11:52:33 AM »

How are the chances that the senate rejects his nomination? It wouldn’t be the first time (though the previous one was for a judge’s post).
Considering he is a sitting US Senator and the GOP controls the Senate, nil.

By a majority of two seats. Maybe someone like Rand Paul or Jeff Flake votes against him (assuming no single Democrat votes aye).

Manchin and Collins are already saying they will vote in favor.

There are reports that multiple Democrats will put an indefinite personal hold on his appointment, which is still allowed under the rules (only a filibuster was removed for appointments).
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2016, 11:55:27 AM »

How are the chances that the senate rejects his nomination? It wouldn’t be the first time (though the previous one was for a judge’s post).
Considering he is a sitting US Senator and the GOP controls the Senate, nil.

By a majority of two seats. Maybe someone like Rand Paul or Jeff Flake votes against him (assuming no single Democrat votes aye).

Manchin and Collins are already saying they will vote in favor.

There are reports that multiple Democrats will put an indefinite personal hold on his appointment, which is still allowed under the rules (only a filibuster was removed for appointments).

I don't think the out party has the power to put a hold on anything (and I think the hold power for the in party is just for judicial slots if my memory serves). But if you have a link to set me straight, that would be grand.
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2016, 12:54:25 PM »

I think Attorney General Sessions will be too busy jailing dissidents, rolling back the Voting Rights Act, expanding the PATRIOT Act, spying on every single Mosque, somehow banning abortion again, forcibly divorcing gays and then forcibly remarrying them to middle aged divorcees, administering the imagined Hispanicaust, and forcing every American by law to carry a firearm at all times to bother going after a bunch of stoners.
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2016, 12:56:18 PM »

I think Attorney General Sessions will be too busy jailing dissidents, rolling back the Voting Rights Act, expanding the PATRIOT Act, spying on every single Mosque, somehow banning abortion again, forcibly divorcing gays and then forcibly remarrying them to middle aged divorcees, administering the imagined Hispanicaust, and forcing every American by law to carry a firearm at all times to bother going after a bunch of stoners.

I must say that you have an overactive imagination. Is that a natural "gift," or do you get help from certain "friends?" Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2016, 12:59:31 PM »

How are the chances that the senate rejects his nomination? It wouldn’t be the first time (though the previous one was for a judge’s post).
Considering he is a sitting US Senator and the GOP controls the Senate, nil.

By a majority of two seats. Maybe someone like Rand Paul or Jeff Flake votes against him (assuming no single Democrat votes aye).

Manchin and Collins are already saying they will vote in favor.

There are reports that multiple Democrats will put an indefinite personal hold on his appointment, which is still allowed under the rules (only a filibuster was removed for appointments).

I don't think the out party has the power to put a hold on anything (and I think the hold power for the in party is just for judicial slots if my memory serves). But if you have a link to set me straight, that would be grand.

You are correct, I misread this article wrong, but it does sound like they are going to make the process as slow and uncomfortable as possible.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-cabinet-democrats-senate-232136
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2016, 01:00:02 PM »

I think Attorney General Sessions will be too busy jailing dissidents, rolling back the Voting Rights Act, expanding the PATRIOT Act, spying on every single Mosque, somehow banning abortion again, forcibly divorcing gays and then forcibly remarrying them to middle aged divorcees, administering the imagined Hispanicaust, and forcing every American by law to carry a firearm at all times to bother going after a bunch of stoners.

I must say that you have an overactive imagination. Is that a natural "gift," or do you get help from certain "friends?" Smiley
If it's a natural gift than it's been dormant until this year.
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2016, 01:26:50 PM »

I think Attorney General Sessions will be too busy jailing dissidents, rolling back the Voting Rights Act, expanding the PATRIOT Act, spying on every single Mosque, somehow banning abortion again, forcibly divorcing gays and then forcibly remarrying them to middle aged divorcees, administering the imagined Hispanicaust, and forcing every American by law to carry a firearm at all times to bother going after a bunch of stoners.

I must say that you have an overactive imagination. Is that a natural "gift," or do you get help from certain "friends?" Smiley
If it's a natural gift than it's been dormant until this year.

Your fantasies as a Branch Trumpidian is quite ... vivid. Do you get them at the local meetings of the "Trumpidians" (dressed in - uh, white).
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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2016, 03:00:59 PM »

This is a total violation of the 10th amendment. The courts should rule marijunana is states issue and not a federal issue
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2016, 03:12:59 PM »

This is a total violation of the 10th amendment. The courts should rule marijunana is states issue and not a federal issue

SCOTUS killed off that aspect of the generally comatose 10th amendment long ago, with its robust interpretation of the commence clause. Indeed it came close to killing off the 10th amendment, and federalism in general, with the Obamacare decision, where 4 of the 9 justices held that one was engaged in interstate commerce by choosing not to get out of bed in the morning. Cheers.
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2016, 03:37:24 PM »

Something really needs to be done about all the white supremacist trolls at this place. Sessions a civil rights champion? lmao
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2016, 03:56:56 PM »

Something really needs to be done about all the white supremacist trolls at this place. Sessions a civil rights champion? lmao
But he fulfilled his legal responsibility as a prosecutor and prosecutor Klanmen in a case where it was not remotely controversial to do so, so he's basically MLK.
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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2016, 04:15:04 PM »

Something really needs to be done about all the white supremacist trolls at this place. Sessions a civil rights champion? lmao

They'll go away when their god emperor starts failing. In the meantime we can mock them.

Give it a year or two before God Emperor Trump crashes and burns. Then the supremacists will quickly disavow him.
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« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2016, 04:34:40 PM »

Going after legal marijuana would be a massive fight, likely a SCOTUS battle, and would take a lot of political capital. I doubt Sessions hates legal weed to the point he's willing to stick the Trump administration in that hornet's nest.
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« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2016, 05:28:04 PM »

Going after legal marijuana would be a massive fight, likely a SCOTUS battle, and would take a lot of political capital. I doubt Sessions hates legal weed to the point he's willing to stick the Trump administration in that hornet's nest.

Keep in mind there are a not-small number of Republican Senators from states with legal weed (Gardner, Sullivan, now Heller) and ones who are at least open to a state's rights approach (Paul, Daines)
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« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2016, 06:28:54 PM »

Going after legal marijuana would be a massive fight, likely a SCOTUS battle, and would take a lot of political capital. I doubt Sessions hates legal weed to the point he's willing to stick the Trump administration in that hornet's nest.

Keep in mind there are a not-small number of Republican Senators from states with legal weed (Gardner, Sullivan, now Heller) and ones who are at least open to a state's rights approach (Paul, Daines)
And Collins. The green states are 4-12.
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« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2016, 12:17:21 PM »

I think the real "war on legal marijuana" is likely to take the form of a future that is so terrifying, so insecure, and so full of anxiety that no one can enjoy a smoke even if it's legal to have one. Best to stick with alcohol, opioids, and tranqs over the next few years, I think.
Opioids should be avoided like the plague.
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« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2016, 12:21:00 PM »

I think the real "war on legal marijuana" is likely to take the form of a future that is so terrifying, so insecure, and so full of anxiety that no one can enjoy a smoke even if it's legal to have one. Best to stick with alcohol, opioids, and tranqs over the next few years, I think.
Opioids should be avoided like the plague.

Yeah. The suggestion otherwise isn't funny.
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