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Question: Defining red state here as a GOP Trifecta
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KS
 
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NE
 
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ND
 
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WY
 
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UT
 
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« on: December 07, 2016, 03:03:55 AM »

Genuinely curious about this, and additionally anyone's subjective experience with in-state politics there.
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2016, 06:47:22 AM »

I'd guess ND given the fact that they elected a Dem Senator.
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2016, 07:09:25 AM »

I'd guess ND given the fact that they elected a Dem Senator.


This year almost all Democratic candidates in ND were crushed with almost indecent percentages...
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2016, 08:37:05 AM »

NE or KS.
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2016, 10:47:40 AM »

Montana, but it's not in the poll for some reason
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2016, 10:49:58 AM »

CO is certainly strong. They win most statewide races.
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2016, 11:27:40 AM »

Montana, but it's not in the poll for some reason

Seriously, this is the correct answer
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2016, 11:47:36 AM »

Montana, but it's not in the poll for some reason

Seriously, this is the correct answer

Yep.  They all suck (if we're being real, the more rural Mountain West and the Great Plains is the true bedrock of Republican strength in the United States), but Montana has had glimmers of success.
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2016, 12:35:04 PM »

Montana, but it's not in the poll for some reason

Because OP defined red-state as one with a Republican trifecta.

It may be that the Democratic Party sucks in all the states listed, but one of them has to suck less than the others. No one is answering the OP's question.

(Including myself, but I feel thoroughly unqualified. Maybe Kansas? They seem to have some small momentum.)
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2016, 02:19:52 PM »

The question asked really should be which Mountain West/Plains state has the best organized Dems, I can see how people got confused.

But I can say that Idaho and Utah Democrats are probably the least effective.
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2016, 03:30:12 PM »

From Zioneer's stories I can definitely say it's not Utah.

I'd say it's either North Dakota or Kansas. Voting Kansas.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2016, 03:50:31 PM »

Nebraska or Kansas
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2016, 06:02:34 PM »

They lost to a governor with approval ratings hovering around 20% or below....hardly the most "organized."
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2016, 06:06:18 PM »

They lost to a governor with approval ratings hovering around 20% or below....hardly the most "organized."


They were at least competitive. More than I can say for most of the other states on this list.
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2016, 06:44:19 PM »

Why are people saying Nebraska? Huh
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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2016, 06:46:00 PM »

They lost to a governor with approval ratings hovering around 20% or below....hardly the most "organized."


They were at least competitive. More than I can say for most of the other states on this list.
Fair point.
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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2016, 06:49:54 PM »

I'm going to double down on Kansas. In an awful year for Democrats, they picked up 13 seats in the state house and 1 in the State Senate.

(Although some of those House pick ups are re-couped '14 losses.)
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2016, 08:00:50 PM »

Kansas. Dems at least usually hit 30% in statewide races here. KS-03 is mildly competitive. Brownback's failures as Gov has to have helped them a bit as well.

Dems haven't won anything in SD since like 2008.
Dems do have a Sen in ND but got crushed in every race this year.
NE-02 is competitive but that's literally about it for the Dems.
lol utah
lol idaho
lololo wyoming
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2016, 12:07:38 AM »

From Zioneer's stories I can definitely say it's not Utah.

I'd say it's either North Dakota or Kansas. Voting Kansas.

Friendly reminder that the Utah Democratic gubernatorial candidate this year did a fundraiser off of a musical called "Saturday's Voyeur", which portrays the founder of Mormonism as a pervert and a creeper. In the easily most Mormon state in the US. And saw nothing wrong with that.

Oh, and that the supporters of the Senate nominee harassed and screamed at their candidate's primary opponent and his family during and after the state convention. For being pro-life.

Oh, and friendly reminder that we put up two different candidates who ended up being too sick to run a campaign anymore and had to drop out. But they dropped out too late, which means that they were still on the ballot when they tried to drop out.

Yup, we're totally competent, right?
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2016, 05:52:33 PM »

Absolutely Kansas. I'm probably biased, but even if Paul Davis fell short thanks to some party strategic blunders and even if we only picked up 1 state senate seat, the KDP has made huge strides.

For example, running a candidate in every senate district matters because it showed organizational and recruiting skill and it was unprecedented. Moreover, gains in the state house were major (largest since the 1970s!!) and would have been even greater had moderate GOP candidates not won lots of races in the primary. Democrats across the state ran WAY WAY ahead of Hillary. Here are some notable examples:

-Patsy Terrell beat Jan Pauls by 12% but Reno voted the least D in Presidential since 1952
-While Gerrett Morris nearly beat JR Claeys in Salina, Saline County voted the lowest percentage for the Democratic presidential candidate since 1952
-Eber Phelps bested Boldra by 6% but Ellis voted the least D in any presidential election since 1924
-Jeff Pittman and Debbie Deer both prevailed in Leavenworth County while it voted the least blue presidentially since 1972
-Mark Pringle won Woodson County even as Clinton got 19% there
-Todd Frye won Marshall County (23% Clinton) and got 44% in a district where Obama got 23% and Clinton definitely did worse
-Jolene Roitman won Comanche County and nearly won the portion of Sumner County in her district as Clinton got 11% and 22% respectively

Of course some of it is home county effect, but it really is remarkable how Kansas Democrats downballot were able to do well in places where the national ticket was completely shut out.
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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2016, 07:42:09 PM »

Thanks for the responses, all!

Though I do also share Figueira's question:

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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2016, 06:03:52 AM »

Brad Ashford and the potential to break NE-2.
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