OH-SEN: Renacci Wins Weak Plurality

[Brittain33]

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[Rjjr77]

Take the source with a grain of salt.

I dont think hes running at all

[BuckeyeNut]

Take the source with a grain of salt.

I dont think hes running at all

I hope not, but I assume he'll run for something eventually. And it would likely have to be something statewide since he moved back to Columbus and not Middletown. It would also have to be sooner rather than later because the sheen of Hilbilly Eligy will wear off.

[Rjjr77]

Take the source with a grain of salt.

I dont think hes running at all

I hope not, but I assume he'll run for something eventually. And it would likely have to be something statewide since he moved back to Columbus and not Middletown. It would also have to be sooner rather than later because the sheen of Hilbilly Eligy will wear off.

I have been straight up told he isnt running this cycle, i'll put it that way. now if someone LGS him maybe

[BuckeyeNut]

I doubt Vance winds up as anyone's LG. Husted, DeWine, and Renacci should all be bending over backward to put a woman on the ticket. He might make sense for Taylor, but she should drop out. Still, Ohio rarely elects Senators to more than two terms -- though I think Brown will make it to a third -- so Vance could run for damn near anything in 2022, 2024, or 2026.

[BuckeyeNut]

Gibbons out with a new ad where he aligns himself with Trump.

[henster]

Gibbons out with a new ad where he aligns himself with Trump.

The first 10 seconds of the ad sure don't paint a picture of America becoming 'Great Again'. NK threatening to nuke USA, ISIS attacks, OCare still law, opioid crisis still ongoing. Odd so many Rs are still running on how bad things are these days.

[BuckeyeNut]

Mandel has put together a "faith team" and is seeking to overturn the 1954 Johnson Amendment which bans religious organizations and charitable groups from openly supporting candidates

[TheSaint250]

Mandel has put together a "faith team" and is seeking to overturn the 1954 Johnson Amendment which bans religious organizations and charitable groups from openly supporting candidates

That's the one that Trump was trying to repeal, right? Was there any progress made on that?

[Rjjr77]

Mandel has put together a "faith team" and is seeking to overturn the 1954 Johnson Amendment which bans religious organizations and charitable groups from openly supporting candidates

I mean I'm not necessarily against this in any way, churches should have the same right to political activities unions have.

[BuckeyeNut]

Mandel has put together a "faith team" and is seeking to overturn the 1954 Johnson Amendment which bans religious organizations and charitable groups from openly supporting candidates

I mean I'm not necessarily against this in any way, churches should have the same right to political activities unions have.

I definitely disagree, the most political a church should get is the sermon. But honestly, the 501(c)3 bit is much worse. Mandel just wants to cloak himself in as much dark money as possible.

[Rjjr77]

Mandel has put together a "faith team" and is seeking to overturn the 1954 Johnson Amendment which bans religious organizations and charitable groups from openly supporting candidates

I mean I'm not necessarily against this in any way, churches should have the same right to political activities unions have.

I definitely disagree, the most political a church should get is the sermon. But honestly, the 501(c)3 bit is much worse. Mandel just wants to cloak himself in as much dark money as possible.

you could make that argument that tons of non-profits shouldn't be able to get political, its kind of silly that a church cant but a union can, neither of which pay taxes. And in every state church membership is voluntary.

[BuckeyeNut]

Mandel has put together a "faith team" and is seeking to overturn the 1954 Johnson Amendment which bans religious organizations and charitable groups from openly supporting candidates

I mean I'm not necessarily against this in any way, churches should have the same right to political activities unions have.

I definitely disagree, the most political a church should get is the sermon. But honestly, the 501(c)3 bit is much worse. Mandel just wants to cloak himself in as much dark money as possible.

you could make that argument that tons of non-profits shouldn't be able to get political, its kind of silly that a church cant but a union can, neither of which pay taxes. And in every state church membership is voluntary.

I personally take a very strict stance on the separation of church and state. And unions are inherently political. I also strongly believe we need to get money out of this politics, which has nothing to do with me being some Godless lefty. I'm sure churches helmed by people like Otis Moss III and William Barber II could raise as much money as, if not more than, those churches helmed by people like Chris Olsteen and Jerry Falwell Jr.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Mandel seems to be doing all he can to lose this race.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Johnson Amendment Schumson Amendment. Plenty of churches endorsed Trump last year (Or at least posted stuff like Ray Comfort's "please don't vote for abortion" video on social media, or made statements that could be viewed as anti-Clinton) and nothing ever happened to them.

[MarkD]

Melissa Ackison, a businesswoman, is joining the Republican primary race.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/09/another_candidate_to_challenge.html

She will formally announce her campaign Monday.

(Can somebody change the title of this thread to something more general?)

[BushKerry04]

My guess is Mandel. I think Brown might be too liberal for a state like Ohio that generally elects moderates in both parties.

[I’m not Stu]

Mandel is no establishment Republican like Kasich or DeWine.

[NewYorkExpress]

Brown pulls off a squeaker. I think National Republicans would probably prefer DeWine or Taylor run here (or even Kasich).

[Mr. Smith]

Barring the DSCC pulling another Sestak '10, or taking for granted the polls like what happened to Feingold, should go to Brown.

[krazen1211]

The Dem party lost 400k votes in Ohio in the 2016 election. Rats are fleeing the sinking ship.

[Xing]

Brown is somewhat moderate compared to Mandel. Anyway, my guess is Brown by a somewhat narrow margin. I don't think he's as vulnerable as most people here seem to think (though obviously he could lose)

[Beet]

I'm not ready to write off Brown, but it's going to be tough. In 2012 he had Obama winning at the top of the ticket, and politically, that was eons ago. The Democrats haven't won a statewide election in Ohio since.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

I tend to agree with Krazen and Beet on this, very concerning for democrats. Lean D at best, Lean R at worst. I tend to think this is tilt D for now, just because Mandel sucks, and Brown is an OK fit for Ohio. If it was literally any other Republican besides Mandel, I would not be favoring Brown at all. If things go according to plan, and Mandel wins the nomination, I think Brown edges him out, possibly even with a plurality. Sadly I think that Mandel will do better, and Brown will do worse, not because Mandel is some demigod, and Brown sucks, it's just what is happening to Ohio now. Gun to my head now, probably Brown 49-47.

[Pessimistic Antineutrino]

Seems like I'm more bullish on this race (for Brown) than most Democrats. My guess is that it's close for a while but Brown starts to pull away and ends up winning mid-upper single digits, similar to his 2012 margin.