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Question: Who wins the Ohio U.S. Senate Race?
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State Treasurer Josh Mandel (R)
 
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U.S. Senator Sherrod Brown (D)
 
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« Reply #175 on: May 27, 2017, 10:17:48 AM »

Can someone other than Mandel  for this seat? I'd prefer not to see another 6 years of Sherrod Brown.
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« Reply #176 on: May 27, 2017, 11:35:11 AM »


With Tiberius out, I rate this Lean D. Steve Austria won't run, and neither will Mike Duffey.
Both Austria and Duffey would be complete ass-pulls as candidates. Why on Earth even bring them up?

Both are very moderate, even more so than Portman, Kasich, and Tiberi. They're the only ones I can see even getting within 5% now.
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« Reply #177 on: May 27, 2017, 12:02:58 PM »


With Tiberius out, I rate this Lean D. Steve Austria won't run, and neither will Mike Duffey.
Both Austria and Duffey would be complete ass-pulls as candidates. Why on Earth even bring them up?

Both are very moderate, even more so than Portman, Kasich, and Tiberi. They're the only ones I can see even getting within 5% now.

Implying there are actual moderates in the OH Republican Party.
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« Reply #178 on: May 27, 2017, 05:00:50 PM »

Saying Duffey isn't a moderate is interesting. ACU gives him a 56% in 2016, which is the same they have as the ratings of Frank LoBiondo, Adam Kinzinger, and Charlie Dent, all three of whom are undoubtedly moderates.
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« Reply #179 on: May 27, 2017, 05:29:38 PM »

Saying Duffey isn't a moderate is interesting. ACU gives him a 56% in 2016, which is the same they have as the ratings of Frank LoBiondo, Adam Kinzinger, and Charlie Dent, all three of whom are undoubtedly moderates.

I'm pretty sure LoBiondo and especially Kinzinger are not moderates by any reasonable definition, but thanks for playing Smiley
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« Reply #180 on: May 29, 2017, 07:25:06 PM »

Can someone other than Mandel  for this seat? I'd prefer not to see another 6 years of Sherrod Brown.

short of someone like Bill Johnson getting in at this point, i think the Portman endorsement set this in stone.
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« Reply #181 on: May 31, 2017, 02:15:58 PM »

Self-funder Michael Gibbons is in.
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« Reply #182 on: May 31, 2017, 03:40:18 PM »


Not gonna go anywhere. Especially as, per Cleveland.com, Gibbons won't run as a self-funder.
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« Reply #183 on: May 31, 2017, 04:50:40 PM »


Yawn. not a serious challenger
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« Reply #184 on: June 02, 2017, 09:47:26 AM »

Gibbons announces having raised $250k in the first 24 hours of his campaign, none of it from him. For comparison, Mandel raised $550k in the first 3 months of 2017.

If nothing else, it looks like Gibbons will bleed Mandel's wallet much earlier than anticipated.
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« Reply #185 on: June 02, 2017, 01:02:45 PM »

The OH GOP is a joke. They need to get behind Mandel or put up a real challenger. I am a strong backer of Mandel, but if they really don't want him then put up a challenger.
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« Reply #186 on: June 02, 2017, 09:11:08 PM »

The OH GOP is a joke. They need to get behind Mandel or put up a real challenger. I am a strong backer of Mandel, but if they really don't want him then put up a challenger.
Yeah it's the gop's fault some no name banker decides to jump in.

Mandel will win, the party won't play favorites and Sherrod will still be tilt leader
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« Reply #187 on: June 02, 2017, 09:16:00 PM »

The OH GOP is a joke. They need to get behind Mandel or put up a real challenger. I am a strong backer of Mandel, but if they really don't want him then put up a challenger.
Yeah it's the gop's fault some no name banker decides to jump in.

Mandel will win, the party won't play favorites and Sherrod will still be tilt leader

Brown will kick Ted Cruz Jr's a** and it'll so much fun to watch.
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« Reply #188 on: June 19, 2017, 10:32:28 PM »

Financial disclosure of Mandel's travel in 2016 shows all of it as political.

Mandel claims he consolidated official business under political so there was no chance tax dollars went to political travel, but ... now it's really hard to find what, if any, out-of-state work he did. This perpetuates his careerist image, and wouldn't be surprised if it winds up in an ad.
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« Reply #189 on: June 19, 2017, 11:41:04 PM »

Financial disclosure of Mandel's travel in 2016 shows all of it as political.

Mandel claims he consolidated official business under political so there was no chance tax dollars went to political travel, but ... now it's really hard to find what, if any, out-of-state work he did. This perpetuates his careerist image, and wouldn't be surprised if it winds up in an ad.

He paid for his own travel though, what's the ad? Politician pays for political travel with political dollars?

Sherrod can't really smack him for traveling, it's also not really a move that benefits brown. If mandel had a real primary it could be an ad, seems more like slow news day to md
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« Reply #190 on: July 10, 2017, 01:06:40 PM »

Brown reports raising $2.6 million this past quarter, a personal record. His cash on hand is now $6.7 mil., no numbers from Mandel.
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« Reply #191 on: July 10, 2017, 02:09:59 PM »

Brown reports raising $2.6 million this past quarter, a personal record. His cash on hand is now $6.7 mil., no numbers from Mandel.

At least we have this going for us.
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« Reply #192 on: July 10, 2017, 02:15:42 PM »

Brown reports raising $2.6 million this past quarter, a personal record. His cash on hand is now $6.7 mil., no numbers from Mandel.

At least we have this going for us.

The only Ohio polls out so far are Gravis and PPD. Both are bunk. That said, Brown needs to be on his A game, and as of now, he is.
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« Reply #193 on: July 10, 2017, 04:19:30 PM »

Brown reports raising $2.6 million this past quarter, a personal record. His cash on hand is now $6.7 mil., no numbers from Mandel.

At least we have this going for us.

The only Ohio polls out so far are Gravis and PPD. Both are bunk. That said, Brown needs to be on his A game, and as of now, he is.

Brown's only setting is A-game mode Tongue
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« Reply #194 on: July 11, 2017, 06:34:43 PM »

Trump heavily over-performed in the industrial Midwest last year, and that will revert to at least a tangible degree or more, which will affect Republicans accordingly. Can Mandel buck that trend AND make inroads from his 2012 showing?

The answer should be clear.
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« Reply #195 on: July 17, 2017, 03:50:35 PM »

Mandel reports raising a paltry $1.3 million, half of what Brown raised. Mandel's CoH is now $3.3 million, Brown's is $6.7. It's early yet, but worth noting Mandel kept much better pace with Brown last cycle and took Super PAC money when Brown did not.
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« Reply #196 on: July 17, 2017, 04:08:18 PM »

Mandel reports raising a paltry $1.3 million, half of what Brown raised. Mandel's CoH is now $3.3 million, Brown's is $6.7. It's early yet, but worth noting Mandel kept much better pace with Brown last cycle and took Super PAC money when Brown did not.

Is Brown planning on taking super cash this time?
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« Reply #197 on: July 17, 2017, 06:38:54 PM »

Mandel reports raising a paltry $1.3 million, half of what Brown raised. Mandel's CoH is now $3.3 million, Brown's is $6.7. It's early yet, but worth noting Mandel kept much better pace with Brown last cycle and took Super PAC money when Brown did not.

Is Brown planning on taking super cash this time?

Not that I'm aware. He's definitely going for the Bernie angle, his Facebook ads and some emails note the average contribution is $27.
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« Reply #198 on: July 18, 2017, 01:35:57 AM »

Mandel reports raising a paltry $1.3 million, half of what Brown raised. Mandel's CoH is now $3.3 million, Brown's is $6.7. It's early yet, but worth noting Mandel kept much better pace with Brown last cycle and took Super PAC money when Brown did not.

Is Brown planning on taking super cash this time?

Not that I'm aware. He's definitely going for the Bernie angle, his Facebook ads and some emails note the average contribution is $27.

However, much like Bernie, I would be surprised if he objected to the UAW (or someone's) PAC cutting an ad for him and running it.
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« Reply #199 on: July 18, 2017, 02:08:49 AM »

Trump heavily over-performed in the industrial Midwest last year, and that will revert to at least a tangible degree or more, which will affect Republicans accordingly. Can Mandel buck that trend AND make inroads from his 2012 showing?

The answer should be clear.

Thing is that, if we're comparing this to 2012, these are areas Mandel performed really poorly in; if he can make some consistent improvements in areas that Trump won by a lot (not necessarily even to the point of winning them outright), he's made up a great deal of the distance between him and Brown. He also doesn't really have much further to fall in Hamilton/Franklin Counties. "Midwestern rural areas" are also some of the places Trump is (at least, according to polling) holding up best, and it's exactly where Mandel hopes to make easy gains.

You have to remember that in 2012 Obama was pretty popular in Ohio and Kasich was pretty much at the bottom of a trough in approvals -- hated. Something that reversed itself astonishingly quickly. But even if Trump's approval patterns stay right about where they are now, Mandel still probably improves on his 2012 performance, to something like a 1-3 point defeat.
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