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« on: December 09, 2016, 08:00:58 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2016, 08:09:13 PM »

"I'm positively shocked"
-Absolutely nobody
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2016, 08:12:46 PM »

Where were they in October?
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2016, 08:13:28 PM »

Free Republic.com says that it is fake news. Some will believe it and some will not.
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2016, 08:14:27 PM »

I wonder if this could turn into a Watergate style scandal that gets bigger with time?

In this ultra-paranoid "antiestablishment" environment? No.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2016, 08:14:59 PM »

Free Republic.com says that it is fake news. Some will believe it and some will not.

The worst part about this post is that it's true.
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2016, 08:19:01 PM »

Doesn't America also got involved in Russian elections? Not excusing the Russians, but isn't this how geopolitics have developed in since the Cold War?
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2016, 08:19:57 PM »

Doesn't America also got involved in Russian elections? Not excusing the Russians, but isn't this how geopolitics have developed in since the Cold War?
No. United Russia's already got those locked up solid.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2016, 08:20:41 PM »

Doesn't America also got involved in Russian elections? Not excusing the Russians, but isn't this how geopolitics have developed in since the Cold War?
No. United Russia's already got those locked up solid.
Fair enough.
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2016, 08:23:23 PM »

Free Republic.com says that it is fake news. Some will believe it and some will not.

Mirror, mirror, on the wall....
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2016, 08:58:23 PM »

Free Republic.com says that it is fake news. Some will believe it and some will not.

Glad they were finally willing to own up to it. Wink
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2016, 09:44:09 PM »


Based on the article, Republican senators told them to shut up about it.
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2016, 09:47:27 PM »

Bruh...

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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2016, 09:49:08 PM »

Can someone please cite me a SPECIFIC PIECE OF EVIDENCE that russia interfered in this election? This article nor the cia officials provide anything.

This is as bad as pizzagate.
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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2016, 10:06:56 PM »

The Washington Post has been known to publish sensationalist pieces about Russian influence based on very flimsy evidence before.
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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2016, 10:09:02 PM »

Yea ppl forget that WAPO is the breitbart of the left.
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2016, 10:09:20 PM »


"One of the biggest Electoral College victories in history". Oh Donald, only you can make me laugh. Wink Cheesy
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2016, 10:37:27 PM »
« Edited: December 09, 2016, 10:48:02 PM by Gass3268 »

First losing the popular vote and now proven Russian influence in the election. Trump has a serious legitimacy issue.

We need total and complete shut down of electoral college until we can figure out what is going on.
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2016, 11:54:10 PM »

I do believe Russia was involved in the Wikileaks leaks that hurt Clinton and given the closeness of the election in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania it is possible that without that interference Clinton may have won or done better. This included forcing the resignation of DWS and increasing divisions in the Democratic Party. I don't think it did swing the election but it was unhelpful. However with the actual vote numbers themselves Trump won that legitimately. Trump did not win because the Russians hacked it, he won because he got more votes than Clinton in enough states that added up to over 270 electoral votes.
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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2016, 01:15:39 AM »
« Edited: December 10, 2016, 01:18:29 AM by JJC »

The butthurt is strong here.
Neo-McCarthyism made a comeback in 2016. Sad!
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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2016, 02:46:14 AM »

Can someone please cite me a SPECIFIC PIECE OF EVIDENCE that russia interfered in this election? This article nor the cia officials provide anything.

This is as bad as pizzagate.

Amen.
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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2016, 09:44:07 AM »

Doesn't America also got involved in Russian elections? Not excusing the Russians, but isn't this how geopolitics have developed has been since the Cold War elections were first invented?
Fixed that for you
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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2016, 09:53:50 AM »

Free Republic.com says that it is fake news. Some will believe it and some will not.

The worst part about this post is that it's true.
Now be fair. the story was published in the Washington Post. WaPo does have something of a reputation for publishing sensationalist rubbish designed to attack Trump and the Republicans e.g.

A recent dubious report about Russian propaganda in the media that itself turned out to be based on unsubstantiated propaganda

Their lies about the Michelle Fields/Cory Lewandowski incident.

added to that you have their repetition of accusations that Trump was causing violence at his rallies when project Veritas videos and other documents later showed it was paid Democratic operatives causing the violence.

Then you have the breathless and unquestioning reporting of the the women who claimed to victims of assault by Trump even though many of their accounts were implausible and dubious.

Then you have their non stop comment articles attacking Trump, including one article that actually argued that not only their comment but also their news coverage should be biased against Trump.

Basically The Washington Post have zero credibility when it comes to stories about Trump.
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« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2016, 10:46:47 AM »

I wonder if this could turn into a Watergate style scandal that gets bigger with time?

Well, one difference between this and Watergate is that in Watergate the perpetrators were within reach of US law enforcement.  Not sure how the US would ever manage to prosecute the Russian hackers in question here.
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« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2016, 11:53:33 AM »

This is not just the WaPo - New York Times reported this as well.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/obama-russia-election-hack.html

They say it will show up in the report that Obama ordered about the election before he leaves office, so even if this dies down for a bit, it's gonna come back. This seems fairly substantive, if they can prove that Russia also hacked the RNC but did not release any information. I doubt anything will be done about it under the unified R government though.

So much for the cold war being over though...looks like Russia might have gotten the last laugh after all. Damn. 

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