Signature and Avatar Amendment

[Emsworth]

Signature and Avatar Amendment

1.  The Senate of the Republic of Atlasia hereby recognizes that a mandatory statement of a voter's registration in a person's avatar or signature is no longer necessary to aide the administrator of an election to determine the state in which a voter is registered.

2.  Upon this recognition, the Senate of Atlasia with the formal consent of the Regions shall repeal Article V, Section 2, Clause 2 of the Atlasian Constitution effective on August 18, 2005.
Sponsor: Sen. King

[Emsworth]

I'm sorry to nitpick once again, but I would note that providing a rationale for the amendment as a part of the amendment itself is not necessarily a good idea. If we look at the real life U.S. Constitution, only one amendment provides a rationale: the Second. And we all know, I am sure, the trouble that has been caused by the phrase "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state..."

I would suggest a more simple, direct wording:

Clause 2 of Section 2, Article V of the Constitution of Atlasia is hereby repealed.

[Sam Spade]

I'm sorry to nitpick once again, but I would note that providing a rationale for the amendment as a part of the amendment itself is not necessarily a good idea. If we look at the real life U.S. Constitution, only one amendment provides a rationale: the Second. And we all know, I am sure, the trouble that has been caused by the phrase "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state..."

I would suggest a more simple, direct wording:

Clause 2 of Section 2, Article V of the Constitution of Atlasia is hereby repealed.

I agree and will present such an idea as an amendment to this bill:

This bill shall be amended to read:

Repeal of Article 5, Section 2, Clause 2 (Signature and Avatar Amendment)

Clause 2 of Section 2, Article V of the Constitution of Atlasia is hereby repealed.

[Emsworth]

The question is on the Spade Amendment. All those in favor, say Aye; those opposed, say No.

[MHS2002]

Aye

[PBrunsel]

Aye

Such silly nit picking though.

[Colin]

Aye

[King]

Aye.  I just wrote it that way so it isn't a one clause amendment which I hate, but it does look better with just one clause.

[Sam Spade]

Aye. 

[MasterJedi]

Aye

Well next week I need to start getting into the debate more than I have been this weekend.

[Emsworth]

Such silly nit picking though.

I would submit that it such nitpicking is called for when we discuss something of the magnitude and importance of a constitutional amendment, whose wording should be as clear and concise as possible.

With six Ayes and zero Noes, the Spade amendment has passed.

[DanielX]

for the record, Aye to the amendment.

[MasterJedi]

With six Ayes and zero Noes, the Spade amendment has passed.

It always sounds better with Nay.

[PBrunsel]

Such silly nit picking though.

I would submit that it such nitpicking is called for when we discuss something of the magnitude and importance of a constitutional amendment, whose wording should be as clear and concise as possible.

I understand that. It is necesary for such things, but I was annoyed and tired after driving arounf half the state yesterday and posted some angry reply. I am aware of the necesity of correct spelling, wording, and phrashing in any legislation or amendment.

[Emsworth]

It always sounds better with Nay.

I know.

But if one looks at the real life Congress, one would find that it uses "No." Ayes and Noes, but Yeas and Nays. If you like, I could switch to "Yeas and Nays"; I have no particular preference.

[Colin]

It always sounds better with Nay.

I know.

But if one looks at the real life Congress, one would find that it uses "No." Ayes and Noes, but Yeas and Nays. If you like, I could switch to "Yeas and Nays"; I have no particular preference.

This is Atlasia my good man. We use Ayes and Nays no matter what the heck everybody else does.

[Emsworth]

The required seventy-two hours of debate having expired, the question is on the final passage of the Signature and Avatar Amendment.

All those in favor, say Aye; those opposed, say No. This Amendment requires a two-thirds majority in order to pass.

[MasterJedi]

Aye

[King]

Aye

[Sam Spade]

Aye.

[MHS2002]

Aye

[Colin]

Aye

I have decided to change my vote in order for this to pass.

[King]

Abstain.

The old Raise the Standards Coalition in me just wont let me vote aye.

Raising the standards would be getting rid of this worthless law.

[Colin]

Abstain.

The old Raise the Standards Coalition in me just wont let me vote aye.

Raising the standards would be getting rid of this worthless law.

Well if it needs my vote then I change it otherwise I'm staying with Abstain.

[Emsworth]

Abstain.

The old Raise the Standards Coalition in me just wont let me vote aye.

Raising the standards would be getting rid of this worthless law.

Well if it needs my vote then I change it otherwise I'm staying with Abstain.

It might. The Constitution seems to imply that 7 votes are necessary (so effectively, an abstention would count as a vote against), and three Senators are effectively absent.