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  Democrats: Which coalition would you prefer your party have? (search mode)
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Pre-1990s class based coalition
 
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Post 1990s "third way" coalition
 
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Frodo
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« on: December 11, 2016, 01:57:29 PM »

Let's suppose we get a purely working class party like the days of old (plus minorities), like the vast majority of Atlasian Democrats seem to want.  Which, if we are to use Pew's terminology from that 2014 poll, would mean a Democratic Party composed of mainly Solid Liberals, Hard-Pressed Skeptics, and the Faith and Family Left, while essentially bidding adieu to the Next Generation Left.  

That would mean a more socially conservative party in addition to being more economically populist if we want to reflect our altered demographics faithfully.  

Is that what you really want?  
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2016, 06:04:02 PM »
« Edited: December 11, 2016, 06:06:49 PM by Frodo »

Let's suppose we get a purely working class party like the days of old (plus minorities), like the vast majority of Atlasian Democrats seem to want.  Which, if we are to use Pew's terminology from that 2014 poll, would mean a Democratic Party composed of mainly Solid Liberals, Hard-Pressed Skeptics, and the Faith and Family Left, while essentially bidding adieu to the Next Generation Left.  

That would mean a more socially conservative party in addition to being more economically populist if we want to reflect our altered demographics faithfully.  

Is that what you really want?  

Einzige on AAD is a nazi troll, but he's spot on with this post:

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The Democratic Party doesn't need to - and shouldn't - sacrifice progressive views on "social issues" (kind of a silly term, but w/e) to appeal to white-working class voters. People don't weigh social and economic issues equally; as long as we offer a genuine populist alternative to the Republican Party that is effective at feeding and housing the working people of this country, the wedge/culture issues aren't going to kill our chances with these groups.

You're right -up to a point.  Republicans, for instance, were able to wing it for thirty years with a platform centered on social traditionalism, fiscal conservatism, and an interventionist foreign policy until recently.  Now that they have become a largely white, working class party (and less country club-oriented), they might have to follow Donald Trump's lead and change more than just their platform (which nobody reads anyway) to reflect that change as they better reflect their constituents' changing desires.

I suppose we could wing it as well, for a time.  
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