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Question: How would you vote in the Oct. 15 election ?
#1
SPÖ
#2
ÖVP
#3
FPÖ
#4
Greens
#5
NEOS
#6
PILZ
#7
KPÖ+
#8
FLÖ
#9
G!LT
#10
Whites
#11
For a small regional party
#12
I'd vote invalid
#13
I'd stay home
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Mike88
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« on: December 19, 2016, 11:10:13 AM »

contract is crazy


https://twitter.com/Claus_Pandi/status/810576622780841984/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


they promise to share information about austrian politics, bilateral and international relationships,  creation of party structures, youth policy and....."areas of mutual interest"..whatever that means.
What a crazy and stupid move!! God! If that poll is right, the FPO is already losing steam and this contract could backfire. What are the chances of an early 2017 election if the FPO crashes in the polls?
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Mike88
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2017, 12:48:42 PM »

That's interesting. Sebastian Kurz is very young, he's only 30. Why is he so popular and poised to win the general election if he's elected OVP leader? Does his views about European immigrants have a big influence?
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Mike88
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2017, 01:14:06 PM »

That's interesting. Sebastian Kurz is very young, he's only 30. Why is he so popular and poised to win the general election if he's elected OVP leader? Does his views about European immigrants have a big influence?

Aside from being very young and dynamic, he's also seen as a "doer" among Austrian voters and not a "talker" - like most other politicians are seen.

* He led the European initiative to close the Balkan route to migrants streaming in (something even Merkel had to acknowledge later on was a success and beneficial to Germany).

* He takes a tough stance against Turkish dictator Erdogan and Turkish agitation of pro-Erdogan supporters in Austria, calling on them "to fly home" if they refuse to integrate here.

* He called to end Turkish EU-membership talks, if dictator Erdogan refuses to uphold human rights by waging war against the Kurds, jailing political opponents and the introduction of the death penalty.

* He has led the way to an updated Austrian Islam Law, which cracks down hard on extremist Muslim interference in Austria from abroad (such as Saudi Arabia), which bans foreign funding of mosques and imams and mandates German to be spoken in Austrian mosques. The updated law btw also has several points strengthening Muslims and their faith such as the rights to halal food and pastoral care in the military.

* He has outlined a 50-point plan to better integrate migrants into Austrian society and workforce.

* He hosted US-Russian etc. peace talks about Syria in Vienna.

 * He is currently in the Donbass region of Ukraine as head of the OSCE to mediate between Russia and the Ukraine, which Austria took over on January 1.

* He advocates cutting any development aid for countries that are not willing to sign deportation treaties for rejected Austrian asylum seekers, such as Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Afghanistan etc. - countries that are considered mostly safe by now.

And so on ...

That's why he has 70% favorable/job approval numbers and is miles ahead of other politicians in these rankings.
WOW! That's quite a resume for a politician his age. I'm impressed. I wish we had this kind of politicians in my country. But Tender, is he really considering running for the leadership or is it just media speculation?
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Mike88
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2017, 01:33:14 PM »

That's interesting. Sebastian Kurz is very young, he's only 30. Why is he so popular and poised to win the general election if he's elected OVP leader? Does his views about European immigrants have a big influence?

Aside from being very young and dynamic, he's also seen as a "doer" among Austrian voters and not a "talker" - like most other politicians are seen.

* He led the European initiative to close the Balkan route to migrants streaming in (something even Merkel had to acknowledge later on was a success and beneficial to Germany).

* He takes a tough stance against Turkish dictator Erdogan and Turkish agitation of pro-Erdogan supporters in Austria, calling on them "to fly home" if they refuse to integrate here.

* He called to end Turkish EU-membership talks, if dictator Erdogan refuses to uphold human rights by waging war against the Kurds, jailing political opponents and the introduction of the death penalty.

* He has led the way to an updated Austrian Islam Law, which cracks down hard on extremist Muslim interference in Austria from abroad (such as Saudi Arabia), which bans foreign funding of mosques and imams and mandates German to be spoken in Austrian mosques. The updated law btw also has several points strengthening Muslims and their faith such as the rights to halal food and pastoral care in the military.

* He has outlined a 50-point plan to better integrate migrants into Austrian society and workforce.

* He hosted US-Russian etc. peace talks about Syria in Vienna.

 * He is currently in the Donbass region of Ukraine as head of the OSCE to mediate between Russia and the Ukraine, which Austria took over on January 1.

* He advocates cutting any development aid for countries that are not willing to sign deportation treaties for rejected Austrian asylum seekers, such as Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Afghanistan etc. - countries that are considered mostly safe by now.

And so on ...

That's why he has 70% favorable/job approval numbers and is miles ahead of other politicians in these rankings.
WOW! That's quite a resume for a politician his age. I'm impressed. I wish we had this kind of politicians in my country. But Tender, is he really considering running for the leadership or is it just media speculation?

True.

I might actually consider voting for a Kurz-ÖVP (the first time in my life that I vote ÖVP) and abandon the Greens for once because of his achievements and spine that he's shown recently.

A Kurz-led ÖVP IMO is the best way to cripple the FPÖ, because many of the FPÖ's potential protest voters are only soft-core and could easily switch over to Kurz (as would many centrist Greens and NEOS-voters).

On the other hand, if he becomes ÖVP-leader he'd immediately face heavy attacks not only from the FPÖ but also the SPÖ and the NEOS.

Therefore, the timing as to when he becomes ÖVP-leader would be important too.

Anyway, the media is spinning a lot but Kurz has repeatedly said he's "not thinking about becoming party leader right now".

It will really depend what the ÖVP's sections and influential leaders will have to say over the next months, or if the Mitterlehner-ÖVP will get something done in the next months ...
Yeap... In politics timing is everything. Maybe he needs the current OVP leader to be "cooked on low heat" and if by the beginning of next year the party smells power with him at the helm, it's time for him to step foward.  
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Mike88
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2017, 12:44:01 PM »

Look at the hidden message of this welder in the FPÖ's economic campaign brochure:


NS? National Socialism?
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Mike88
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2017, 01:54:18 PM »

Interesting. Kurz 2017 logo is very similar to the PSD/CDS 2015 coalition logo:

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Mike88
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2017, 03:15:12 PM »

There's actually another final SHOCK poll out today, which I'll post later.

Meinungsraum.at poll for GMX:

FPÖ pulls ahead !

Turnout projected at 80% (+5).



https://www.gmx.at/magazine/politik/wahlen/nationalratswahl/exklusive-umfrage-nationalratswahl-christian-kern-kompetentesten-sebastian-kurz-liebster-direktkandidat-32574458

I have a few problems with this poll: meinungsraum.at is an online panel only pollster and their support for small parties is between 5 and 9%, which is extremely unlikely.

So the average is:

29% FPÖ
27% ÖVP
20% SPÖ
  7% NEOS
  6% Pilz
  5% Grunen
  7% Others

Yeah, Tender is right about the "others" share. From what i've seen on the wikipedia table, the "others" are between 1% and 3%. But, my guess is that it will a close race for 1st place. Much closer than expected.
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