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BoAtlantis
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« on: December 15, 2016, 03:40:21 PM »

The massive shifts to red also included MN, ND, SD, NH, and ME, some of which are doing well.

As Nate Silver said, income didn't matter as much this year when controlling for other factors so financial situation is at best an incomplete explanation. It was education more than anything.

Perhaps non-college whites are disproportionately likely to believe illegals will be competing against jobs that don't require college education. I think it's psychology more than anything. Sometimes, when you're financially doing well, you still don't feel happy and find ways to feel negative.

Non-college whites have been fleeing Dems since 2008. Hillary, as flawed as she was, was also largely a victim of bad timing.

I'm honestly disappointed that blue wall has crumbled and I don't know if Dems will ever be able to convince them back. Midwest is a region that's hardly gaining population.

Some Dems seem to be flocking to the South, a region Clinton outperformed Obama but AZ, GA, and TX type of states won't turn purple any time soon. Geographies are failing them right now.
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BoAtlantis
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2016, 05:21:50 PM »

The massive shifts to red also included MN, ND, SD, NH, and ME, some of which are doing well.

As Nate Silver said, income didn't matter as much this year when controlling for other factors so financial situation is at best an incomplete explanation. It was education more than anything.

Perhaps non-college whites are disproportionately likely to believe illegals will be competing against jobs that don't require college education. I think it's psychology more than anything. Sometimes, when you're financially doing well, you still don't feel happy and find ways to feel negative.

Non-college whites have been fleeing Dems since 2008. Hillary, as flawed as she was, was also largely a victim of bad timing.

I'm honestly disappointed that blue wall has crumbled and I don't know if Dems will ever be able to convince them back. Midwest is a region that's hardly gaining population.

Some Dems seem to be flocking to the South, a region Clinton outperformed Obama but AZ, GA, and TX type of states won't turn purple any time soon. Geographies are failing them right now.

AZ is practically already purple.   I really disagree on GA and TX as well.   I think the 2016 election sets up where the Democrats go in 2020, and it's definitely south and west.

According to TX exit poll, 18-24 year old went 58-32% for her.
In GA, 18-24 year old went 65-29% for her.

So Dems are on the right track. I don't know if that'll be enough to be competitive in 2020 or even 2024.
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