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« on: December 13, 2016, 01:21:33 PM »
« edited: December 13, 2016, 01:23:24 PM by Frodo »

First, Governor Matt Bevin has decided NOT to go for transgendered bathrooms legislation, and the newly empowered GOP leadership in the House is going for a more moderate (or pragmatic) path than their more radical North Carolinian counterparts.

Clearly, they want to hold on to power for as long as they can, and don't want any radical legislation to muck that up.   



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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2016, 01:24:24 PM »

Considering Kentucky's VERY recent political history, the KY GOP can't be anywhere near as bold as the NC GOP, IMO.  Remember, this is local politics, not PVI bullshlt.
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2016, 07:56:42 PM »

Kentucky is not similar to North Carolina at all though. They could've easily passed  this and stayed popular, just like Governor Bryant in MS.
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2016, 08:14:05 PM »

First, Governor Matt Bevin has decided NOT to go for transgendered bathrooms legislation, and the newly empowered GOP leadership in the House is going for a more moderate (or pragmatic) path than their more radical North Carolinian counterparts.

Clearly, they want to hold on to power for as long as they can, and don't want any radical legislation to muck that up.   






Umm no. The Kentucky GOP is not in danger no matter what they did in regards to this bill.
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2016, 08:27:17 PM »

Clearly, they want to hold on to power for as long as they can, and don't want any radical legislation to muck that up.

"Right-to-work" (which is unpopular in Kentucky) isn't "radical"?
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2016, 08:51:13 PM »
« Edited: December 13, 2016, 08:53:39 PM by Frodo »

Clearly, they want to hold on to power for as long as they can, and don't want any radical legislation to muck that up.

"Right-to-work" (which is unpopular in Kentucky) isn't "radical"?

Nope.

Umm no. The Kentucky GOP is not in danger no matter what they did in regards to this bill.
 

In the legislature I am sure you're right.  But do you think Gov. Matt Bevin is a shoo-in for re-election? 
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2016, 08:53:30 PM »


Yep.

Remember that referendum in Colorado?

If lawmakers wanted to be mainstream for their state, they could raise the minimum wage instead.
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2016, 08:54:55 PM »

Clearly, they want to hold on to power for as long as they can, and don't want any radical legislation to muck that up.

"Right-to-work" (which is unpopular in Kentucky) isn't "radical"?
Bandit, the only thing in Kentucky that is radical is you.
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2016, 09:04:02 PM »

Kentucky is not similar to North Carolina at all though. They could've easily passed  this and stayed popular, just like Governor Bryant in MS.

They could have, but they decided they didn't want to take such needless risks and attract unwanted attention the way the North Carolina GOP did, which contributed to Gov. Pat McCrory's nail-biter defeat.   
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2016, 09:13:12 PM »

Umm no. The Kentucky GOP is not in danger no matter what they did in regards to this bill.
 

In the legislature I am sure you're right.  But do you think Gov. Matt Bevin is a shoo-in for re-election? 

He might have a decent challenger, but the KY Democratic party still looks like it is going through the "atrophy" phase other southern Democratic parties finished.
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2016, 09:54:05 PM »

Oh my god are the red hats going to be a thing now?

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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2016, 10:50:42 PM »

Oh my god are the red hats going to be a thing now?


They may become the "liberty cap" of the modern era, which is a funny thought.

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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2016, 11:03:08 PM »

The GOP is doing well in the Blue Grass State they've got control of the Kentucky House and Senate for the first time I believe in over one hundred years.
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2016, 11:22:05 PM »

Clearly, they want to hold on to power for as long as they can, and don't want any radical legislation to muck that up.

"Right-to-work" (which is unpopular in Kentucky) isn't "radical"?

Nope.

Umm no. The Kentucky GOP is not in danger no matter what they did in regards to this bill.
 

In the legislature I am sure you're right.  But do you think Gov. Matt Bevin is a shoo-in for re-election? 

"Right to work" opponents need to figure out the PR battle. Maybe start by not calling it that.
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2016, 11:23:56 PM »

"Right to work" opponents need to figure out the PR battle. Maybe start by not calling it that.

I call it right-to-scab or work-for-less.
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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2016, 11:26:19 PM »

"Right to work" opponents need to figure out the PR battle. Maybe start by not calling it that.

I call it right-to-scab or work-for-less.

People don't want their dues going to pay for Campaigns of Candidates they don't agree with. It's very nice to live in a right to work state.
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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2016, 12:36:34 AM »
« Edited: December 14, 2016, 12:40:33 AM by ApatheticAustrian »

"right to work", like "pro-life" and "death tax", is an act of verbal genius...all those positions would be much less popular if their proponents wouldn't have succeded with framing them like they call them.

liberals must absolutely raise their level of "scrabble brilliance", besides creating a left-wing ALEC....on local level the left-wing is outgunned in all areas but money.
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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2016, 01:14:11 AM »

If these ludicrous bathroom bills have gotten flushed down the toilet with McCrory, I suppose that's one thing I can be happy about.
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« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2016, 07:28:38 AM »

Where are the people who said that Bevin would be Fletcher 2.0 and a "guaranteed one-termer"?

I only remember folks saying he could face a tough re-election, not that he was DOA.
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« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2016, 08:48:04 AM »

Oh my god are the red hats going to be a thing now?


They may become the "liberty cap" of the modern era, which is a funny thought.


the brown shirt, you mean
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« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2016, 09:19:20 AM »

Where are the people who said that Bevin would be Fletcher 2.0 and a "guaranteed one-termer"?

He's not Fletcher 2.0. He's WORSE!
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« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2016, 05:04:59 PM »

Clearly, they want to hold on to power for as long as they can, and don't want any radical legislation to muck that up.

"Right-to-work" (which is unpopular in Kentucky) isn't "radical"?

Nope.

Umm no. The Kentucky GOP is not in danger no matter what they did in regards to this bill.
 

In the legislature I am sure you're right.  But do you think Gov. Matt Bevin is a shoo-in for re-election? 

"Right to work" opponents need to figure out the PR battle. Maybe start by not calling it that.

Yep, I call it "poverty wage."
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« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2016, 06:28:46 PM »

Kentucky is not similar to North Carolina at all though. They could've easily passed  this and stayed popular, just like Governor Bryant in MS.
Maybe but maybe not. Kentucky is also not Mississippi. Anything extreme would fail in the Louisville and Lexington areas, and there is no guarantee coal country would care all that much one way or the other to turn out in big enough numbers since there isn't much of a link between trans-issues and "DEY TURK E'RR JURBS!!!" 
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« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2016, 12:00:23 AM »


Kentuckians seem to be warming to him the longer they get to know him:

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« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2016, 02:51:23 AM »

Oh my god are the red hats going to be a thing now?


They may become the "liberty cap" of the modern era, which is a funny thought.



a magic mushroom?
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