MT-AL: Rob Quist (D) vs. Greg Gianforte (R) vs. Mark Wicks (L), May 25
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« Reply #1925 on: May 25, 2017, 10:03:37 AM »

You can't make this up... according to the summons, Gianforte lives on Manley Road.
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« Reply #1926 on: May 25, 2017, 10:09:25 AM »

Is there any way that Montana Republicans can remove Gianforte and add some other Republican?
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« Reply #1927 on: May 25, 2017, 10:11:06 AM »



Steve Daines throws GF under the bus....or more correctly, doesn't tries to save him after the suicide jump.



https://twitter.com/SteveDaines/status/867752083021340673
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« Reply #1928 on: May 25, 2017, 10:13:32 AM »

Returns at http://sos.mt.gov/elections/election-results after 8PM Mountain Time.
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« Reply #1929 on: May 25, 2017, 10:24:13 AM »



Steve Daines throws GF under the bus....or more correctly, doesn't tries to save him after the suicide jump.



https://twitter.com/SteveDaines/status/867752083021340673

He's getting slammed in the replies for this weaksauce statement. If the senator is reading this, I remind him that anyone who continues to support Gianforte is saying that assault is a good and honorable thing.
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« Reply #1930 on: May 25, 2017, 10:26:31 AM »

Is there any way that Montana Republicans can remove Gianforte and add some other Republican?

The election is today and a good 200k votes have been sent in already.
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« Reply #1931 on: May 25, 2017, 10:45:07 AM »


https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/867756071904886784



Louie Gohmert: “We didn't have a course on bodyslamming…”
Trent Franks: “The left has precipitated this tense, confrontational approach…"

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/867744418945798145


NRCC Chairman:


https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/867767031608651777
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« Reply #1932 on: May 25, 2017, 10:46:02 AM »

Can Montana actually afford to have a second special election? That was the big deal behind the mail in only ballot measure. If counties are in this serious of financial trouble,and Gianforte resigns(after winning the election) wouldn't Montana just let the seat remain vacant until '18?

Wouldn't Gianforte be wealthy enough to donate the needed funding to the state? Seems like that would be the appropriate thing to do.

It would be the right thing to do, but he probably won't do it. I will say that it would be a fairly good publicity move. He's already run for governor and now representative, he probably still wants public office. Apologizing and saying the statement from his campaign was a lie, resigning and then paying for another election if he wins, and then taking anger management classes would put him in a much better position to run for another office in the future then ignoring the attack and trying to duck the news for the next couple of months/years.

This is exhibit A of why no-excuse early voting should be banned.

I agree. It should be easy to vote before election day, but you should have to do something extra to do so. Early voting is a privilege, not a right. Not to derail the thread, but that's also my feeling about voter IDs. As long as they are easy to get (and I mean, so easy that not even a single person is unable to vote), they aren't that bad an idea.


It almost seems like Acuna was required to give Gianforte's side of the story at the end without even addressing how it was incorrect. Otherwise, you'd think if she was going to bring it up to refute what it had to say.


I was talking to my mother yesterday right before the news came out and said that I believed the race was going to be Gianforte by two to three points. Now I think it will go to Quist by one to two.

If I had to make some wild guesses,

Pre-Assault*Sad
Greg Gianforte — 49.3%
Rob Quist — 46.6%
Mark Wicks — 4.1%

Post-Assault*Sad
Rob Quist — 47.5%
Greg Gianforte — 45.9%
Mark Wicks — 6.6%

*While write-ins are allowed, they do not appear to be reported.
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« Reply #1933 on: May 25, 2017, 10:48:15 AM »





Congressmen are walking by a group of reporters staking out right now joking like "who wants to get body slammed today?"
https://twitter.com/jlifhits/status/867761984804192256



Q: Would you seat Gianforte if he wins?

Paul Ryan: If he wins, he's been chosen by the people of Montana
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/867768005551247360
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« Reply #1934 on: May 25, 2017, 10:54:04 AM »

Early voting is stupid and there is very little evidence it boosts turnout rates
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« Reply #1935 on: May 25, 2017, 10:54:19 AM »

I think Paul Ryan and Trent Franks' comments confirm what we've all pretty much known: the GOP isn't a party that's held together by principles, or by a belief in liberal democracy and the rule of law; it's defined by its will to power and not much else.  Insofar as the comments of these politicians reflect the mood of the base (which we've seen somewhat confirmed in the comments section of the Fox News article on the incident), I'm not very confident that Gianforte's numbers will erode very much.
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« Reply #1936 on: May 25, 2017, 10:55:29 AM »

Early voting is stupid and there is very little evidence it boosts turnout rates

All they need to do is to have a law that allows voters to change their vote if they wish.
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« Reply #1937 on: May 25, 2017, 10:57:45 AM »

Early voting is stupid and there is very little evidence it boosts turnout rates

voting on weekdays is even more stupid, especially without EV.
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« Reply #1938 on: May 25, 2017, 10:58:16 AM »

If Louie Gohmert, Trent Franks, or Paul Ryan would still vote for Gianforte, then they are saying that assault is a good and honorable thing. Any montanan who votes for Gianforte today is saying the same. Enough said.
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« Reply #1939 on: May 25, 2017, 10:58:52 AM »

If Louie Gohmert, Trent Franks, or Paul Ryan would still vote for Gianforte, then they are saying that assault is a good and honorable thing. Any montanan who votes for Gianforte today is saying the same. Enough said.

What about those who voted for him before this happened?
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« Reply #1940 on: May 25, 2017, 11:05:35 AM »
« Edited: May 25, 2017, 11:17:20 AM by Angrie »

This is exhibit A of why no-excuse early voting should be banned.

I agree. It should be easy to vote before election day, but you should have to do something extra to do so. Early voting is a privilege, not a right. Not to derail the thread, but that's also my feeling about voter IDs. As long as they are easy to get (and I mean, so easy that not even a single person is unable to vote), they aren't that bad an idea.[/quote]

How is it really any different if you only have election day voting and then something like this happens the day after election day? Or mid-day on election day after most people have already voted?

So the key point seems to me that it is something that has happened after people have already voted. And it is always possible for something to happen after people have voted, no matter when you schedule voting.

Such cases are the purpose that recall elections and the like are designed for, though if those are generally allowed, they are liable to be abused in less serious cases.
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« Reply #1941 on: May 25, 2017, 11:07:16 AM »

If Louie Gohmert, Trent Franks, or Paul Ryan would still vote for Gianforte, then they are saying that assault is a good and honorable thing. Any montanan who votes for Gianforte today is saying the same. Enough said.

What about those who voted for him before this happened?

Impossible to know unless they state they would still vote for him if they were voting today, or encourage others to vote for him, both of which would constitute saying assault is a good and honorable thing.
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« Reply #1942 on: May 25, 2017, 11:07:44 AM »

http://billingsgazette.com/news/local/early-turnout-at-metrapark-polls-is-light-despite-gianforte-s/article_ec11bb83-c76e-51a5-bf93-f11b9f1f6c2d.html
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« Reply #1943 on: May 25, 2017, 11:09:04 AM »

If Louie Gohmert, Trent Franks, or Paul Ryan would still vote for Gianforte, then they are saying that assault is a good and honorable thing. Any montanan who votes for Gianforte today is saying the same. Enough said.

Ryan pretty much said the same in his presser this morning without actually saying he should lose or resign if he wins, only apologize but you could tell he was ticked https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/867770832659111937
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« Reply #1944 on: May 25, 2017, 11:10:02 AM »

Is there any way that Montana Republicans can remove Gianforte and add some other Republican?

The election is today and a good 200k votes have been sent in already.

250k actually.
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« Reply #1945 on: May 25, 2017, 11:10:47 AM »

Constitutional issue was settled in McCormack v. Powell. I still think GG wins.
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« Reply #1946 on: May 25, 2017, 11:11:59 AM »

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« Reply #1947 on: May 25, 2017, 11:12:04 AM »


couldn't that be a sign of republican depression?
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« Reply #1948 on: May 25, 2017, 11:13:14 AM »

Garbage polls+ EV leans D+ ED vote affected by recent events= Moderate Quist Win.
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« Reply #1949 on: May 25, 2017, 11:14:16 AM »

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