MT-AL: Rob Quist (D) vs. Greg Gianforte (R) vs. Mark Wicks (L), May 25
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« Reply #575 on: April 26, 2017, 09:39:41 AM »

   You'd think there would be more polls of this race as its pretty easy to poll the district since its the whole state.
Strict polling laws and a sparse population probably makes it difficult to poll.
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« Reply #576 on: April 26, 2017, 02:24:36 PM »

Montana Democrat Rob Quist Is Regular Performer at Nudist Resort
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More at the link, including a link to some pictures that I would not dare post here.

I'm not sure how much of a scandal this would be in a state like Montana.  Utah, for sure.  But Montana?
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« Reply #577 on: April 26, 2017, 02:43:24 PM »

Montana Democrat Rob Quist Is Regular Performer at Nudist Resort
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More at the link, including a link to some pictures that I would not dare post here.

I'm not sure how much of a scandal this would be in a state like Montana.  Utah, for sure.  But Montana?

Montana is one of the more socially libertarian states, so, maybe not?
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« Reply #578 on: April 26, 2017, 02:44:43 PM »

Montana Democrat Rob Quist Is Regular Performer at Nudist Resort
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More at the link, including a link to some pictures that I would not dare post here.

I'm not sure how much of a scandal this would be in a state like Montana.  Utah, for sure.  But Montana?

Montana is one of the more socially libertarian states, so, maybe not?

I don't know though, it sure does play into the hippy narrative quite well.

Not all social libertarians (myself included) are that naked guy at the 2016 Libertarian National Convention.
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« Reply #579 on: April 26, 2017, 02:59:11 PM »

I have a hard time seeing that make a big difference, but I don't know.
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« Reply #580 on: April 26, 2017, 03:00:10 PM »

Oh no!! Not the horrible nudists! Now he's just gone TOO far!!!

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« Reply #581 on: April 26, 2017, 05:29:17 PM »

Wow, this thread has turned really, really bad. Posters on a political forum which is dedicated to analyzing and tracking elections as well as political demography and trends should never use the term "socially libertarian state" in any context at all. Just because a state has mountains doesn't make it libertarian or whatever. Same goes for the term "elastic state".

Anyway, Planned Parenthood has launched a serious GOTV effort in the state, and Hollywood actress Alyssa Milano campaigned with Quist in Bozeman today, LOL.

In case anyone wants to watch the first debate between the two candidates, here is the link.

Didn't Alyssa Milano also do some campaigning for Ossoff in Georgia? Potential dark horse VP? Surprise
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« Reply #582 on: April 26, 2017, 06:26:49 PM »

Wow, this thread has turned really, really bad. Posters on a political forum which is dedicated to analyzing and tracking elections as well as political demography and trends should never use the term "socially libertarian state" in any context at all. Just because a state has mountains doesn't make it libertarian or whatever. Same goes for the term "elastic state".

Anyway, Planned Parenthood has launched a serious GOTV effort in the state, and Hollywood actress Alyssa Milano campaigned with Quist in Bozeman today, LOL.

In case anyone wants to watch the first debate between the two candidates, here is the link.

Didn't Alyssa Milano also do some campaigning for Ossoff in Georgia? Potential dark horse VP? Surprise

Yes, she did, including helping transport early voters to the polls.
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« Reply #583 on: April 26, 2017, 06:35:43 PM »

Montana Democrat Rob Quist Is Regular Performer at Nudist Resort
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More at the link, including a link to some pictures that I would not dare post here.

I'm not sure how much of a scandal this would be in a state like Montana.  Utah, for sure.  But Montana?

Montana is one of the more socially libertarian states, so, maybe not?

I don't know though, it sure does play into the hippy narrative quite well.

Not all social libertarians (myself included) are that naked guy at the 2016 Libertarian National Convention.
It's clearly not a religious right place like Alabama, but I wouldn't call it socially left-wing like Hollywood. I won't pretend to be an expert, but I'd imagine that Western Montana is more conservative socially than fiscally (plus some parts, like Missoula, aren't even conservative at all), and Eastern Montana is more fiscally conservative than socially conservative. The west/east divide is pretty big.

Of course, there are also states like Nevada and New Hampshire that are super pro-choice yet still elect solid pro-lifers to many high offices, including US Senate.
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« Reply #584 on: April 26, 2017, 08:50:01 PM »

Montana Democrat Rob Quist Is Regular Performer at Nudist Resort
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More at the link, including a link to some pictures that I would not dare post here.

I'm not sure how much of a scandal this would be in a state like Montana.  Utah, for sure.  But Montana?

This has got to be the strangest oppo research ever, lol.
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« Reply #585 on: April 26, 2017, 09:05:40 PM »
« Edited: April 26, 2017, 09:20:57 PM by Babeuf »

Going to take the opposite view of most of the responses so far and say I think that it's an effective hit on Quist. It produces headlines and makes him look less like a serious contender. I don't think it will have a huge effect or anything but it will definitely make headlines because it's funny.
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« Reply #586 on: April 26, 2017, 09:12:08 PM »

Hunting records of U.S. House candidates released
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The oppo dumps on Quist continue, it appears.  I found this article in my check to see if the Nudist Resort story had any legs in the Montana media.  I don't see anything there about it yet.
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« Reply #587 on: April 26, 2017, 10:30:10 PM »

Wow, this thread has turned really, really bad. Posters on a political forum which is dedicated to analyzing and tracking elections as well as political demography and trends should never use the term "socially libertarian state" in any context at all. Just because a state has mountains doesn't make it libertarian or whatever. Same goes for the term "elastic state".

Anyway, Planned Parenthood has launched a serious GOTV effort in the state, and Hollywood actress Alyssa Milano campaigned with Quist in Bozeman today, LOL.

In case anyone wants to watch the first debate between the two candidates, here is the link.

What did you think of the debate ? How are other people in the state responding to the debate & recent campaign including ads?
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« Reply #588 on: April 26, 2017, 10:47:37 PM »

Ya' know, I don't think I'm gonna want them accolades if Ossoff really does end up doing better than Quist because of this type of stuff.
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« Reply #589 on: April 26, 2017, 11:18:52 PM »

Lacking a hunting license seems like a worse hit that performing at a nudist resort.
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« Reply #590 on: April 26, 2017, 11:35:28 PM »

Lacking a hunting license seems like a worse hit that performing at a nudist resort.

Yes but you know it's not like, say, not having a driving license.
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« Reply #591 on: April 27, 2017, 12:37:49 AM »
« Edited: April 27, 2017, 12:56:41 AM by Shadows »

Watched the debate & Gianforte seemed like a hard right, uber religious, "muh defense spending increase & national security", strong supporter of Trump, cut benefits of Healthcare coverage, Climate change denying "Humans have some impact in Climate Change ala Scott Pruitt" guy. He has also got a big likeability & honesty problem. You may not agree with McCain's or Collins' policies, but they are honest & likeable. Gianforte seemed like a "Slimy Politician" 101 type person! Doesn't look like a candidate, a left leaning MT Treasurer type people will vote for !

He is obviously trying to move to to center just for this campaign but he seemed like a small version of Ted Cruz. Wouldn't be surprised if he joined the Freedom Caucus & Tea party lunatics!

Gianforte went to Fox & called Quist a Pelosi with a hat who wants a 90% Income Tax & said the Trump train is going forward well in Montana, praised Trump & is campaigning hard with Donald Trump Jr! That 90% Income tax is garbage but he can speak any lie & get away just like his hero Trump !
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« Reply #592 on: April 27, 2017, 12:43:43 AM »

Lacking a hunting license seems like a worse hit that performing at a nudist resort.
Yes but you know it's not like, say, not having a driving license.
Too soon.
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« Reply #593 on: April 27, 2017, 12:58:46 AM »

Watched the debate & Gianforte seemed like a hard right, uber religious, "muh defense spending increase & national security", strong supporter of Trump, cut benefits of Healthcare coverage, Climate change denying "Humans have some impact in Climate Change ala Scott Pruitt" guy. He has also got a big likeability & honesty problem. You may not agree with McCain's or Collins' policies, but they are honest & likeable. Gianforte seemed like a "Slimy Politician" 101 type person! Doesn't look like a candidate, a left leaning MT Treasurer type people will vote for !

He is obviously trying to move to to center just for this campaign but he seemed like a small version of Ted Cruz. Wouldn't be surprised if he joined the Freedom Caucus & Tea party lunatics!

Gianforte went to Fox & called Quist a Pelosi with a hat who wants a 90% Income Tax & said the Trump train is going forward well in Montana, praised Trump & is campaigning hard with Donald Trump Jr! That 90% Income tax is garbage but he can speak any lie & get away just like his hero Trump !


Trump's favorables are +13 in Montana, according to the Emerson poll.  So campaigning with Donald Trump Jr. and praising President Trump is simply smart politics.
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« Reply #594 on: April 27, 2017, 01:15:22 AM »

Watched the debate & Gianforte seemed like a hard right, uber religious, "muh defense spending increase & national security", strong supporter of Trump, cut benefits of Healthcare coverage, Climate change denying "Humans have some impact in Climate Change ala Scott Pruitt" guy. He has also got a big likeability & honesty problem. You may not agree with McCain's or Collins' policies, but they are honest & likeable. Gianforte seemed like a "Slimy Politician" 101 type person! Doesn't look like a candidate, a left leaning MT Treasurer type people will vote for !

He is obviously trying to move to to center just for this campaign but he seemed like a small version of Ted Cruz. Wouldn't be surprised if he joined the Freedom Caucus & Tea party lunatics!

Gianforte went to Fox & called Quist a Pelosi with a hat who wants a 90% Income Tax & said the Trump train is going forward well in Montana, praised Trump & is campaigning hard with Donald Trump Jr! That 90% Income tax is garbage but he can speak any lie & get away just like his hero Trump !


Trump's favorables are +13 in Montana, according to the Emerson poll.  So campaigning with Donald Trump Jr. and praising President Trump is simply smart politics.

Emerson is not much of a indicator of anything but Trump surely is more popular than Pelosi for example who Gianforte is trying to link to Quist !
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« Reply #595 on: April 27, 2017, 04:07:25 AM »

BREAKING NEWS: incredibly wealthy man from New Jersey spends inordinate amounts of money to purchase tags for his favored past-time, which he is able to devote himself to because he's wealthy (hunting bears and wolves is not normal folks, that's for freaks) authentic Montana man presumably fishes without a license.

Not too many people hunt without licenses. Loads of people fish without having a fishing license.

It's unfortunate that anyone would care about this but people are often very stupid about identity politics issues. Man must respect hunting camo. Man must wear underarmor and own an arsenal. I'm #triggered by Priuses.
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« Reply #596 on: April 27, 2017, 04:08:28 AM »

Watched the debate & Gianforte seemed like a hard right, uber religious, "muh defense spending increase & national security", strong supporter of Trump, cut benefits of Healthcare coverage, Climate change denying "Humans have some impact in Climate Change ala Scott Pruitt" guy. He has also got a big likeability & honesty problem. You may not agree with McCain's or Collins' policies, but they are honest & likeable. Gianforte seemed like a "Slimy Politician" 101 type person! Doesn't look like a candidate, a left leaning MT Treasurer type people will vote for !

He is obviously trying to move to to center just for this campaign but he seemed like a small version of Ted Cruz. Wouldn't be surprised if he joined the Freedom Caucus & Tea party lunatics!

Gianforte went to Fox & called Quist a Pelosi with a hat who wants a 90% Income Tax & said the Trump train is going forward well in Montana, praised Trump & is campaigning hard with Donald Trump Jr! That 90% Income tax is garbage but he can speak any lie & get away just like his hero Trump !


Trump's favorables are +13 in Montana, according to the Emerson poll.  So campaigning with Donald Trump Jr. and praising President Trump is simply smart politics.

Highly unlikely that this is the case considering that national polling shows him at a ~43% approval rating.
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« Reply #597 on: April 27, 2017, 10:41:46 AM »

Montana Democrat Rob Quist Is Regular Performer at Nudist Resort
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More at the link, including a link to some pictures that I would not dare post here.

I'm not sure how much of a scandal this would be in a state like Montana.  Utah, for sure.  But Montana?

Montana is one of the more socially libertarian states, so, maybe not?

I don't know though, it sure does play into the hippy narrative quite well.

Not all social libertarians (myself included) are that naked guy at the 2016 Libertarian National Convention.
It's clearly not a religious right place like Alabama, but I wouldn't call it socially left-wing like Hollywood. I won't pretend to be an expert, but I'd imagine that Western Montana is more conservative socially than fiscally (plus some parts, like Missoula, aren't even conservative at all), and Eastern Montana is more fiscally conservative than socially conservative. The west/east divide is pretty big.

Of course, there are also states like Nevada and New Hampshire that are super pro-choice yet still elect solid pro-lifers to many high offices, including US Senate.

Wait, so Montana is like a reverse Ukraine!?!?!?!?
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« Reply #598 on: April 27, 2017, 11:08:47 AM »

Watched the debate & Gianforte seemed like a hard right, uber religious, "muh defense spending increase & national security", strong supporter of Trump, cut benefits of Healthcare coverage, Climate change denying "Humans have some impact in Climate Change ala Scott Pruitt" guy. He has also got a big likeability & honesty problem. You may not agree with McCain's or Collins' policies, but they are honest & likeable. Gianforte seemed like a "Slimy Politician" 101 type person! Doesn't look like a candidate, a left leaning MT Treasurer type people will vote for !

He is obviously trying to move to to center just for this campaign but he seemed like a small version of Ted Cruz. Wouldn't be surprised if he joined the Freedom Caucus & Tea party lunatics!

Gianforte went to Fox & called Quist a Pelosi with a hat who wants a 90% Income Tax & said the Trump train is going forward well in Montana, praised Trump & is campaigning hard with Donald Trump Jr! That 90% Income tax is garbage but he can speak any lie & get away just like his hero Trump !


Trump's favorables are +13 in Montana, according to the Emerson poll.  So campaigning with Donald Trump Jr. and praising President Trump is simply smart politics.

Highly unlikely that this is the case considering that national polling shows him at a ~43% approval rating.

Trump did pretty darn well in Montana. Given their small population and the strong swing toward Trump, I don't doubt that he's probably above water there.
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« Reply #599 on: April 27, 2017, 01:41:22 PM »

On a scale of 1 to Andrea Dworkin, how prudish are people in Montana?
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