MT-AL: Rob Quist (D) vs. Greg Gianforte (R) vs. Mark Wicks (L), May 25
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« Reply #1700 on: May 24, 2017, 09:44:33 PM »

So why wasn't he arrested on the spot with a plethora of witnesses? I think I have some theories why.
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« Reply #1701 on: May 24, 2017, 09:44:35 PM »

Do you think it's significant that all the reports on the montana sites say "reporter ALLEGES"

Isn't it pretty clear it did in fact happen? That appears to be a fairly tame way of putting it, and some swing voters might not be moved by such a tame way of putting it.

Seems like irresponsible titling to me, imo.

I guess because there is no 100% unambiguous video of the incident. I mean, I think the audio is pretty damning and it is clear there was an assault, but exactly what happened is not totally clear.

However, using the word 'alleged' like that kinds of makes it seem less convincing than the evidence actually suggests.
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« Reply #1702 on: May 24, 2017, 09:44:40 PM »

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Fox News crew witnessed it—says Gianforte grabbed @Bencjacobs by the neck, slammed him to the ground and punched him


Well.

That took a turn.  He's done.

Not saying that it's false, but did this happen after the body slamming? He never said it in the audio.  I hope there is video to clear it up, but regardless, all of this seems to be true.  Gianforte's done.
Never mind. I guess I skipped over the first paragraph.
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« Reply #1703 on: May 24, 2017, 09:44:54 PM »

That was a lot more than a body slam. That crew from Fox News is going to get fired for telling all of that.
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« Reply #1704 on: May 24, 2017, 09:46:15 PM »

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How the **** is this guy not in jail?
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« Reply #1705 on: May 24, 2017, 09:46:21 PM »

So what exactly did the journalist say to cause this rage? If it was nothing more than a simple question the authoritarian and fascist tendencies of the GOP have been displayed yet again
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« Reply #1706 on: May 24, 2017, 09:46:36 PM »

it seems like jacobs DOWNPLAYED this....

real professional...or maybe too shocked to see it clearly.

if fox says it, it must be true, imho.
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« Reply #1707 on: May 24, 2017, 09:46:54 PM »

So what exactly did the journalist say to cause this rage? If it was nothing more than a simple question the authoritarian and fascist tendencies of the GOP have been displayed yet again
Are you trolling? I really think you're trolling.
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« Reply #1708 on: May 24, 2017, 09:47:22 PM »

That was a lot more than a body slam. That crew from Fox News is going to get fired for telling all of that.
I think they released that through Fox News.
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« Reply #1709 on: May 24, 2017, 09:47:32 PM »

Do you think it's significant that all the reports on the montana sites say "reporter ALLEGES"

Isn't it pretty clear it did in fact happen? That appears to be a fairly tame way of putting it, and some swing voters might not be moved by such a tame way of putting it.

"Alleged" is a pretty standard journalistic convention for events even with video proof—prevents you from being sued for libel.
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« Reply #1710 on: May 24, 2017, 09:47:36 PM »

I've never once worked for a campaign that allowed canvassing after 6:00 PM. It's like campaigning 101. It tends to annoy otherwise approachable voters. I'd be amazed if either candidate has people out past sunset.

In Florida? Everybody is like 1,000 years old there so that makes sense.
Have you ever had a 43 year old house wife shriek at you on her porch at 3:00 PM? Imagine if I interrupted dinner!

That's just the liquor talking!
She looked like a white wine zombie mom actually.

10/10, would bang
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« Reply #1711 on: May 24, 2017, 09:48:10 PM »

So uh, how would a second special work?
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« Reply #1712 on: May 24, 2017, 09:48:40 PM »

So what exactly did the journalist say to cause this rage? If it was nothing more than a simple question the authoritarian and fascist tendencies of the GOP have been displayed yet again

unreal. More generalizations.

I see some of the deepest, seething hatred for people you disagree with on here than anywhere else.

Dude, this goes beyond politics. You think this reflects the gop? Really? Does corrine brown reflect the dems?
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« Reply #1713 on: May 24, 2017, 09:49:24 PM »

God, how pissed Ryan and co. must be right now. This is basically the worst possible timing for Gianforte.

I'd argue the worst possible timing was like 4-5 days ago. There is a good chance he still slithers into office because of the proximity to election day.
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« Reply #1714 on: May 24, 2017, 09:50:27 PM »

So uh, how would a second special work?

I suppose Gianforte would have to resign at some point, and then another election would be held 85-100 days after the vacancy. So presumably sometime in late August - early September.
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« Reply #1715 on: May 24, 2017, 09:50:35 PM »

You know what this means Greg will win but get arrested for assault so we get another special election
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« Reply #1716 on: May 24, 2017, 09:51:09 PM »

Haven't read all the pages, but a lot of them.  I'm surprised nobody thought this: Gianforte likely responded with his (alleged) assault and battery because he was under intense stress caused by the surprising closeness of the race.  I think it's clear he wasn't about to handily win.
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« Reply #1717 on: May 24, 2017, 09:51:31 PM »

He can vote for O-care repeal in an orange jumpsuit.
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« Reply #1718 on: May 24, 2017, 09:51:43 PM »

So what exactly did the journalist say to cause this rage? If it was nothing more than a simple question the authoritarian and fascist tendencies of the GOP have been displayed yet again

unreal. More generalizations.

I see some of the deepest, seething hatred for people you disagree with on here than anywhere else.

Dude, this goes beyond politics. You think this reflects the gop? Really? Does corrine brown reflect the dems?
Please don't try and deny that President Trump shows anything but contempt towards journalists and the very idea of a free press
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« Reply #1719 on: May 24, 2017, 09:52:37 PM »

So what exactly did the journalist say to cause this rage? If it was nothing more than a simple question the authoritarian and fascist tendencies of the GOP have been displayed yet again

unreal. More generalizations.

I see some of the deepest, seething hatred for people you disagree with on here than anywhere else.

Dude, this goes beyond politics. You think this reflects the gop? Really? Does corrine brown reflect the dems?
Please don't try and deny that President Trump shows anything but contempt towards journalists and the very idea of a free press
Journalists should be held in contempt. Just not body slammed. A nice middle finger would have done the trick.
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« Reply #1720 on: May 24, 2017, 09:52:41 PM »

Haven't read all the pages, but a lot of them.  I'm surprised nobody thought this: Gianforte likely responded with his (alleged) assault and battery because he was under intense stress caused by the surprising closeness of the race.  I think it's clear he wasn't about to handily win.

That's actually a good point. If he was coasting he would've been much calmer. He ran for governor last year, losing by 4 and I don't recall reading about any outbursts.
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« Reply #1721 on: May 24, 2017, 09:53:04 PM »

Obligatory: LOCK HIM UP!
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« Reply #1722 on: May 24, 2017, 09:53:13 PM »

it seems like jacobs DOWNPLAYED this....

real professional...or maybe too shocked to see it clearly.

if fox says it, it must be true, imho.

Based on what he's said it sounds like he's really not comfortable being part of the story.
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« Reply #1723 on: May 24, 2017, 09:53:18 PM »

Can we agree that if Gianforte weren't a rich white man, he'd have been shoved in the back of a squad car in handcuffs immediately after this happened?
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« Reply #1724 on: May 24, 2017, 09:53:22 PM »

So what exactly did the journalist say to cause this rage? If it was nothing more than a simple question the authoritarian and fascist tendencies of the GOP have been displayed yet again

unreal. More generalizations.

I see some of the deepest, seething hatred for people you disagree with on here than anywhere else.

Dude, this goes beyond politics. You think this reflects the gop? Really? Does corrine brown reflect the dems?
Please don't try and deny that President Trump shows anything but contempt towards journalists and the very idea of a free press
Yes, he didn't like a lot of liberal journalists, but he never attacked the press for being free. That's just your imagination.
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