MT-AL: Rob Quist (D) vs. Greg Gianforte (R) vs. Mark Wicks (L), May 25

[Adam Griffin]

Based on what MT SOS says is fully reporting:

[Hammy]

Based on what MT SOS says is fully reporting:

This more than anything is what we need to look at. Too many people are focusing on whether or not Dems should've won places Dems are never going to win, rather than looking at how voting changed vs the last election.

[Chief Justice Keef]

It's becoming a vicious cycle at this point. National Democrats don't support progressive Democrat enough compared to Republican opponent, progressive Democrat loses in an underdog race against Republican opponent by single-digits, and moderate Democrats regardless toss it aside as a reason why populism can't work.

If anyone really thinks this race wasn't winnable and the DCCC was right all along, you're being naive. Sure, Quist was a flawed candidate. But that doesn't mean he couldn't have beaten Gianforte if he had received more support from the party, not just outside grassroots organizations.


If you care so much about data and which races are "winnable" or not, look at this graph and see that Democrats aren't supporting their candidates as much as Republicans.

[Thomas Jackson]

Dave Wasserman‏Verified account @Redistrict  2m2 minutes ago

 Projection: Greg Gianforte (R) elected to Congress in #MTAL special, defeating Rob Quist (D).

[Dr. Arch]

If MT chooses to elect a criminal congressman, then they deserve him. It's a sad thing to witness.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Beet, your posts are bad.

Some of it is deranged, but he's making pretty astute points about how left-wing populism is failing to deliver.

You know, this is a R+11 district, and the only district in the country more Republican than R+5 with a Democrat has one who endorsed Bernie in the primary?

But what happened to the "most popular politician in America" and his legendary appeal to WWC? I'll concede that Montana is not the best place to test that theory, but it looks like his popularity among that demographic doesn't translate into votes for candidates of his mold.

Bernie wasn't on the ballot. Quist had some tax issues, so wasn't an ideal candidate.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

It's becoming a vicious cycle at this point. National Democrats don't support progressive Democrat enough compared to Republican opponent, progressive Democrat loses in an underdog race against Republican opponent by single-digits, and moderate Democrats regardless toss it aside as a reason why populism can't work.

If anyone really thinks this race wasn't winnable and the DCCC was right all along, you're being naive. Sure, Quist was a flawed candidate. But that doesn't mean he couldn't have beaten Gianforte if he had received more support from the party, not just outside grassroots organizations.


If you care so much about data and which races are "winnable" or not, look at this graph and see that Democrats aren't supporting their candidates as much as Republicans.

I don't get the feeling that the Democratic party is too upset about having a progressive lose.

[Pyro]

This result is expected - although this was a winnable contest, it was a long-shot for Dems from the start with the headlong anti-Quist spree from the Right. Gianforte's stunt yesterday seems to have not affected the race in a meaningful way, as frightening as that is, and he looks to be finishing between 6-10 pts at the moment. A loss is a loss, but that not an awful margin for Quist's poorly run and underfunded Montana campaign. Georgia should give us a clearer picture on how the national landscape is shaping up.

[heatcharger]

Beet, your posts are bad.

Some of it is deranged, but he's making pretty astute points about how left-wing populism is failing to deliver.

You know, this is a R+11 district, and the only district in the country more Republican than R+5 with a Democrat has one who endorsed Bernie in the primary?

But what happened to the "most popular politician in America" and his legendary appeal to WWC? I'll concede that Montana is not the best place to test that theory, but it looks like his popularity among that demographic doesn't translate into votes for candidates of his mold.

Teachout underperforming in 2016 should have been a warning sign. National D's really overrated how much appeal Bernie truly has.

And Feingold. And Colorado's single-payer. Man, I want Jon Ossoff to win so badly so Democrats have a success story to model.

^ Teachout performed more than 2% better than Clinton.

She lost by 8 while Hillary lost by 6.8. Let's not be intellectually dishonest.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

If MT chooses to elect a criminal congressman, then they deserve him. It's a sad thing to witness.

This is why you lost.

[Antonio the Sixth]

F**k, it's gonna be a 10+ margin isn't it?

[NOVA Green]

Is it fair to consider Quist's failure a failure of Bernie's populist angle? Quist had a lot of baggage of his own. He wasn't the best candidate for this race.

Until humans are perfected, every candidate will have a lot of baggage.  So, I don't think that explains Quist losing.  Montana Democrats apparently thought he was a strong candidate at the beginning of the race.

In all fairness to Montana Dems, there was never a Primary election to fill this seat....

Hence little vetting and debate within the Party about what candidate would best represent Montana Democratic Party voters.

[Yank2133]

It's becoming a vicious cycle at this point. National Democrats don't support progressive Democrat enough compared to Republican opponent, progressive Democrat loses in an underdog race against Republican opponent by single-digits, and moderate Democrats regardless toss it aside as a reason why populism can't work.

If anyone really thinks this race wasn't winnable and the DCCC was right all along, you're being naive. Sure, Quist was a flawed candidate. But that doesn't mean he couldn't have beaten Gianforte if he had received more support from the party, not just outside grassroots organizations.


If you care so much about data and which races are "winnable" or not, look at this graph and see that Democrats aren't supporting their candidates as much as Republicans.

Quist got more then enough funding.

[Matty]

DDHQ calls it.


LMAO at the prediction thread.

[Dr. Arch]

If MT chooses to elect a criminal congressman, then they deserve him. It's a sad thing to witness.

This is why you lost.

The guy is literally a criminal. I didn't lose. I'm neither running nor voting. The people of MT and the country lost.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

It's becoming a vicious cycle at this point. National Democrats don't support progressive Democrat enough compared to Republican opponent, progressive Democrat loses in an underdog race against Republican opponent by single-digits, and moderate Democrats regardless toss it aside as a reason why populism can't work.

If anyone really thinks this race wasn't winnable and the DCCC was right all along, you're being naive. Sure, Quist was a flawed candidate. But that doesn't mean he couldn't have beaten Gianforte if he had received more support from the party, not just outside grassroots organizations.


If you care so much about data and which races are "winnable" or not, look at this graph and see that Democrats aren't supporting their candidates as much as Republicans.

I don't get the feeling that the Democratic party is too upset about having a progressive lose.

Oh, they're not.

[krazen1211]

Gianforte up almost 8%! Nevertheless, he persisted!

Big slamming tonight.

[Hammy]

F**k, it's gonna be a 10+ margin isn't it?

I've thought since yesterday the bodyslam would double Gianforte's margin and that seems to be the case.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

DDHQ calls it for Gianforte

[Sumner 1868]

Running a candidate who supports gun control was a terrible idea.

Quist isn't pro-gun control?

He wants firearms federally registered. The Republicans have been attacking him for that for weeks.

[Roronoa D. Law]

Did Quist do something to piss off the people of Big Horn County?  

Native American turnout must have plummeted like Robenson County NC in 2016.

The Crow tribe endorsed the GOP candidate for the first time in a long time because the tribal economy is dependent on coal (and like, Quist's staff must have taken them for granted or something)

But they endorsed Clinton last year - not exactly a friend of coal.

That is an interesting point. Wonder why the switch?

At any rate, it unquestionably has to do with Quist's piss-poor showing in Big Horn.

Quist really didn't hit coal that hard if at all especially compared to HRC.

[Thomas Jackson]

Gianforte up almost 8%! Nevertheless, he persisted!

Big slamming tonight.

QFT!

[Xing]

If MT chooses to elect a criminal congressman, then they deserve him. It's a sad thing to witness.

This is why you lost.

Montana's newly elected congressman may have assaulted someone, but a Democratic poster said voters deserve who they vote for, and I found that mean, so Democrats are the real bad guys!!!!

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Kyung Lah confirms more voters went out to vote Gianforte because of slamgate and it helped his performance on election day

[Technocracy Timmy]

Kyung Lah confirms more voters went out to vote Gianforte because of slamgate and it helped his performance on election day

Stay classy Montana.