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« on: July 16, 2005, 08:26:53 AM »

What is the most right-wing conservative religion?

By far, Islam.
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2005, 08:33:42 AM »

Actually, Islam is communitarian/populist - they're not fiscal conservatives (ie capitalists) at all, but rather a sort of feudalist/mercantilist fusion. traditional Christianity is a bit to the left of traditional Islam - a bit more socially libertarian, and a bit more socialist in economics. Both are still communitarian/populist.

Using the true 'fiscal AND social conservative' definition, there isn't any religions that fits that criteria exactly; Orthodox/Conservative Judaism comes closest.
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2005, 11:28:26 AM »

Actually, Islam is communitarian/populist - they're not fiscal conservatives (ie capitalists) at all, but rather a sort of feudalist/mercantilist fusion. traditional Christianity is a bit to the left of traditional Islam - a bit more socially libertarian, and a bit more socialist in economics. Both are still communitarian/populist.

Using the true 'fiscal AND social conservative' definition, there isn't any religions that fits that criteria exactly; Orthodox/Conservative Judaism comes closest.

Christianity doesn't interfere with secular government, as oposite to islam.
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2005, 02:33:31 PM »

Atheism.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2005, 03:51:01 PM »

I'd be inclined to say

1) Islam (in general)
2) Pentecostalist (Hardcore Evangelicals) Christians
3) Other Hardcore Christian Groups (eg Southern Baptist)
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2005, 04:23:00 PM »

socially: Islam
economically: Satanism
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2005, 04:27:21 PM »

I'd be inclined to say

1) Islam (in general)
2) Pentecostalist (Hardcore Evangelicals) Christians
3) Other Hardcore Christian Groups (eg Southern Baptist)

Pentecostals (not "pentecostalists"), have nothing to do with being "hardcore".Sure, most of them are, but its not because they are Pentecostal. Pentecostalism involves a certain theology of the Holy spirit, that is dubious at best, but they are far from being the most conservative group. Primitive baptists and some SBC churches would be more likely. Also some hypercalvinist Presbyterians.
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2005, 04:41:09 PM »

Good point!
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2005, 04:53:36 PM »

Economically: Christianity
Socially: Judaism
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2005, 04:56:51 PM »


To be fair, Jesus did support extreme personal economic generosity, which could be interpreted as socialism if one believes government should be based off of His teachings.
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2005, 05:09:46 PM »


"You cannot serve both God and Money"
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2005, 05:29:49 PM »

It's under capitalism that the Bible became the all-time best-selling book.
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2005, 07:05:05 PM »

I believe Christianity to be both economically and socially liberal.  The Southern Baptist Convention doesn't speak for every other sect and denomination.
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2005, 07:10:47 PM »

Ahem, to quote my not so Liberal dad,  "Jesus was a Liberal"
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2005, 07:14:52 PM »

I believe Christianity to be both economically and socially liberal.

I don't.
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2005, 07:41:23 PM »

Pentacostalism, the Southern Baptist Convention, and other fundamentalist and evangelical Protestant denominations.....

I would also add LDS (the Church of the Latter Day Saints -or simply the Mormons), and Orthodox Judaism. 
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2005, 07:45:33 PM »

I would also add LDS (the Church of the Latter Day Saints -or simply the Mormons)
Good call.  They are definitely quite right-wing.
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2005, 07:59:22 PM »

I believe Christianity to be both economically and socially liberal.  The Southern Baptist Convention doesn't speak for every other sect and denomination.
Yes. There are plenty of homosexual Christians, for instance. I thought the religion was about forgiveness and loving the sinner, hating the sin, but certain extremist denominations that also happen to be very outspoken tend to warp the general public's opinion of Christianity. A lot of Christians detest what extremist Christians say. And likewise, just because a lot of outspoken atheists are liberals doesn't mean that atheism is entirely a tolerant and liberal religion.
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2005, 08:02:31 PM »

I would also add LDS (the Church of the Latter Day Saints -or simply the Mormons)
Good call.  They are definitely quite right-wing.

They're right-wing on government economics, but they don't mind having what could basically considered a liberal social system under their church (tithe goes to Church welfare a considerable amount).
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2005, 11:03:13 PM »

It's under capitalism that the Bible became the all-time best-selling book.
And, ironically, the most shop lifted.
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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2005, 03:27:41 AM »

It's under capitalism that the Bible became the all-time best-selling book.

No... I think you'll find it was an extremely well known book before then.
And the efforts to get it published in the languages of ordinary people had more to with a Radical political and religious outlook rather than an aim to make money.
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2005, 03:30:55 AM »

The "Creativity movement" would probably be considered the most extreme socially conservative, as they are essentially neo-nazis.

In general, Dispensationalists have more or less been swept up in the neo-conservative movement.   This covers many southern Baptists, pentecostals, and similar charismatics.

In my personal experience, most Mormons I've known tend to be more along the lines of traditionalist conservatives.   Generally fairly polite and respectful of other views as well.
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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2005, 03:41:23 AM »

It's under capitalism that the Bible became the all-time best-selling book.
And, ironically, the most shop lifted.

Good point. Very little more socialist than shoplifting, which is of course no different than voting to tax other people's goods and services away. Capitalism of course is the only moral economic system—the system that allows people to subdue the earth and be masters of their own destinies, without enslaving others.

The beauty of the free market is that no exchange ever takes place unless both parties benefit. Wealth is the product of industry, ambition, character, and untiring effort.
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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2005, 03:43:57 AM »

Wealth is the product of industry, ambition, character, and untiring effort.

Not a Christian attitude at all...

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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2005, 12:08:30 PM »

Um, okay. You think goods and services just 'happen' by themselves?
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