Obama is a weak leader.

[Beet]

In the last year we've seen the country's federal police force and spy agencies erupt in open feuding, with the police accused of favoring one party and the spy agencies favoring the other party. Their leaders appear to act independently with no backing or direction from the WH. First, Comey. Now the CIA leaks. Obama has lost control of his government. They are a bunch of independent fiefdoms operating on their own with no control from the top. It's as if we have no president. Obama has been a weak kneed failure, does anyone here, Dem or Rep, honestly believe Trump would allow something like this to happen? Trump is a strong leader.

[Shadows]

Agreed! He is a big BIG failure - Great speaker, nice guy, so scandals like Hillary & isn't a fraud like Hidddawg either. But he is a weak guy & a complete failure, led the DNC to ruin & has accomplished little as President.

[ApatheticAustrian]

i have never really got if leaders are nice or made of iron......according to the republican congress he is a weak emperor or something.

[publicunofficial]

Beet's a Republican for the same reason people become Patriots/Yankees/Warriors fans. Just as annoying about it too.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Don't speak ill of your president. What is he supposed to do?

[Person Man]

Beet's a Republican for the same reason people become Patriots/Yankees/Warriors fans. Just as annoying about it too.

And it has popped up in all of our minds but most of us just KCCO-ish and carry on. It usually works out. If the alternative seems to be to be to go along with hypernormalization, "giving up" is on the table but there are other options.

[Anna Komnene]

You've just now realized this is how government works?

[Grumpier Than Thou]

This is the worst trolling I've ever seen

[Confused Democrat]

You're absolutely right.

God emperor Trump will put these puny and weak Government officials in their place, and bring order and stability to Washingington through sheer force and will. All hail God emperor Trump. MAGA.

[Mike67]

Yeah Obama would draw a line in the sand and then back up and draw another line in the sand

[Sir Mohamed]

No, he is not generally a weak leader. He got things done, especially at the homefront, even with a hostile congress for the most time of his presidency. That he drove a line in the sand in Syria was a bad mistake, but staying out with the military was the correct decision. Especially by taking the experiences of other middle-east adventures into consideration, which proved to be a disaster. It was also a mistake to support the so-called rebels, of whom many were or became radicals. It’s not just ISIS in Syria, you also have al-nusra and other jihadists. The West also totally underestimated the Assad regime and Russia’s strategic interests in the that region. And the administration blindly believed that once the dictator is removed, it would become a democracy by western standards. I detest Assad, but if he were removed without a real alternative (which I don’t see), the radical islamists would take over large portions of Syria; a country were several religions, including Christians, once lived peacefully together. So, the mistake was the line in the sand itself, not the refusal to respond militarily. An intervention would have made things even worse and only cost us many lives and a lot of money. Money, that we better use for humanitarian aid in the region for those who need it.

[ApatheticAustrian]

obama should totally have sent boots on syrian grounds.....say the same people afraid of provoking russia with words.

i would apologize to romney today if i would be an US citizen...but compared to 2016 2011-putin was a peacenik.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

This is the worst trolling I've ever seen

[Dr. Arch]

This is the worst trolling I've ever seen

[HAnnA MArin County]

This is a weaker thread.

Ask bin Laden if Obama is a weak leader.

Seeing as how he's had to deal with disrespectful obstructionist Republicans throughout much of his presidency, I'd say he's done a pretty good job.

[Person Man]

This is the worst trolling I've ever seen

[Virginiá]

puhhhh-leeezz Beet. No one is Most aren't buying it.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

In the last year we've seen the country's federal police force and spy agencies erupt in open feuding, with the police accused of favoring one party and the spy agencies favoring the other party. Their leaders appear to act independently with no backing or direction from the WH. First, Comey. Now the CIA leaks. Obama has lost control of his government. They are a bunch of independent fiefdoms operating on their own with no control from the top. It's as if we have no president. Obama has been a weak kneed failure, does anyone here, Dem or Rep, honestly believe Trump would allow something like this to happen? Trump is a strong leader.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

When tf did Beet get seduced by the Dark Side of the Force?

[Meclazine for Israel]

I dont think those issues are Obama.

We just live in a more open media world where everything.can be filmed, leaked and tweeted.

And that changes the culture of the CIA and Police enormously.

As for Obama, he led well in very difficult circumstances from start to finish.

[President Johnson]

This is the worst trolling I've ever seen

No, he is not generally a weak leader. He got things done, especially at the homefront, even with a hostile congress for the most time of his presidency. That he drove a line in the sand in Syria was a bad mistake, but staying out with the military was the correct decision. Especially by taking the experiences of other middle-east adventures into consideration, which proved to be a disaster. It was also a mistake to support the so-called rebels, of whom many were or became radicals. It’s not just ISIS in Syria, you also have al-nusra and other jihadists. The West also totally underestimated the Assad regime and Russia’s strategic interests in the that region. And the administration blindly believed that once the dictator is removed, it would become a democracy by western standards. I detest Assad, but if he were removed without a real alternative (which I don’t see), the radical islamists would take over large portions of Syria; a country were several religions, including Christians, once lived peacefully together. So, the mistake was the line in the sand itself, not the refusal to respond militarily. An intervention would have made things even worse and only cost us many lives and a lot of money. Money, that we better use for humanitarian aid in the region for those who need it.

This is a weaker thread.

Ask bin Laden if Obama is a weak leader.

Seeing as how he's had to deal with disrespectful obstructionist Republicans throughout much of his presidency, I'd say he's done a pretty good job.

These posts nail it.

[JJC]

Agreed! He is a big BIG failure - Great speaker, nice guy, so scandals like Hillary & isn't a fraud like Hidddawg either. But he is a weak guy & a complete failure, led the DNC to ruin & has accomplished little as President.

Yes, Obama is weak. Sad!

[JJC]

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Please move to Russia (or the Philippines) and enjoy the good times.

[Mike67]

Obama did send a whole lot of gold to Iran as tribute and to get those captured sailors out. He is weak in his dealings especially with countries like Iran.