Opinion of this Post

[Intell]

There is more than a marketing failure here.  While I think it's important to not stereotype all people, I sadly think there is a lot of truth to the idea that many working class whites would rather that nobody receives any assistance if it means that 'the others' also will receive assistance aside from themselves.

A lot of snobby white liberals have made this argument since the Great November Electoral Fiasco. It makes intuitive sense to them, I suppose; if you are raised to believe in your own superiority then you tend to believe in it still when you grow up. But though American society is riven by ethnic tensions and can't be understood without reference to them, this is an argument without any basis in observable reality whatsoever. Federal government support has been particularly associated with minorities (and especially with the most unpopular of minorities) for half a century, and yet this massive collapse in support has come about only now...

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The 'theory' explained to you by who, exactly?

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Yes that's a great way to win elections: everyone who votes for the other guy is a ****. Well so long as you're secure in your own sense of moral superiority, eh? Better than winning.

1.Only now since the passage of Obamacare. 

Also, there seems to be a slow but final realization from many of these people that 'The American Dream' is no longer a reality for them.  It had been said for many years, with a great deal of polling to back it up, that especially poor whites believed they were future rich, so they didn't mind Supply Side economics that lowered taxes on the wealthy and that cut some social programs in order to finance them.

I think polling data already backs up that that was a recent change and would explain this recent switch.

2.This theory isn't new and although it obviously wasn't explained to me by this person, this person did succeed in becoming President of the United States and retained the office with the largest vote in history. So, I think he knows what he was talking about (especially if you believe that if Trump won it must have been because he realized something nobody else noticed):

President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."


http://www.snopes.com/lbj-convince-the-lowest-white-man/

This is a genuine quote.

3.And the disdain for the disenfranchisement of minorities by pejoratively referring to them as 'Social Justice Warriors' or referring to President Obama as the 'community organizer President" isn't the other side running on everybody that doesn't vote for our candidate is *********?

The thing is, contrary what I think you want to admit, Trump and the Republicans partly running on that very message succeeded.

So, I wouldn't mind seeing an election campaign from the Democrats based on demonizing white (male) working class voters, because many of these people are, in fact, stupid and many of them are, in fact, deplorable.

As to my sense of moral superiority, if you reread your post, I think you'll see you're just like me.  I hope you're satisfied.

I definitely agree that working class whites are subhuman pieces of trash, how about all of you fine, well educated, respectable upper-middle class people?

[Torie]

Somebody is doing a lot of stereotyping. Perhaps they might want to move to Hudson, and actually live with white working class folks for awhile right on their own block. It might help to see them more as individuals, with a lot of diversity, rather than a seething mass of political clones. And just because many are not blessed with much education, does not necessarily mean that they are clueless "dumbs" either, saddled with a host of unpleasant prejudices.

[Meclazine for Israel]

People listen more if you talk less.

[Phony Moderate]

He might get along well with certain Grauniad columnists.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Historically "educated" voters make no better or worse choices than the "uneducated". After all, the uneducated vote gave us Clement Attlee and FDR while the smart educated voters gave us that Austrian with the funny moustache.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

But anyway, rule one of politics: if you're a mass party (i.e. one that wants at least half of the vote) don't blame the electorate for when you lose.  For Christ's sake, why is the Democratic Party so halfwitted?

[White Trash]

Historically "educated" voters make no better or worse choices than the "uneducated". After all, the uneducated vote gave us Clement Attlee and FDR while the smart educated voters gave us that Austrian with the funny moustache.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Adam T needs to stop slipping Dylan quotes into his posts. I've been doing that for years. That's my thing

[Mr. Reactionary]

2.This theory isn't new and although it obviously wasn't explained to me by this person, this person did succeed in becoming President of the United States and retained the office with the largest vote in history. So, I think he knows what he was talking about (especially if you believe that if Trump won it must have been because he realized something nobody else noticed):

President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."


http://www.snopes.com/lbj-convince-the-lowest-white-man/

This is a genuine quote.

So because some guy who died like 50 years ago said this thing it is true today?

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

2.This theory isn't new and although it obviously wasn't explained to me by this person, this person did succeed in becoming President of the United States and retained the office with the largest vote in history. So, I think he knows what he was talking about (especially if you believe that if Trump won it must have been because he realized something nobody else noticed):

President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."


http://www.snopes.com/lbj-convince-the-lowest-white-man/

This is a genuine quote.

So because some guy who died like 50 years ago said this thing it is true today?

race relations in america have changed less since the '60s than you might (like to) think

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Perhaps they might want to move to Hudson

Classic Torie.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Historically "educated" voters make no better or worse choices than the "uneducated". After all, the uneducated vote gave us Clement Attlee and FDR while the smart educated voters gave us that Austrian with the funny moustache.

And there's been some historical revisionism going around that it was the German working class that loved Hitler. Perhaps the National SOCIALISM dumbf**kery has rubbed off on people who should know better.

[Xing]

It's pretty much common practice for a lot of people to assume that those who vote differently from them are horrible people. Ever wonder why so many liberals hate West Virginia, and many conservatives hate California?

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I love Al's quote in that post chain here for being right on the mark:

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     It's unreal seeing liberals (some, not all) trying to defend the same tone-deaf absurdity that was instrumental in electing Donald Trump. I get doing that on election night, but enough time has passed that people should realize that this was and is strategically a really bad idea.

[Antonio the Sixth]

oh for the love of god

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Thanks for President Trump, AdamT and company. We couldn't have done it without y'all setting a fine example for us to chew out and spit in your face.

     I love Al's quote in that post chain here for being right on the mark:

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     It's unreal seeing liberals (some, not all) trying to defend the same tone-deaf absurdity that was instrumental in electing Donald Trump. I get doing that on election night, but enough time has passed that people should realize that this was and is strategically a really bad idea.

If anything it has gotten worse. The number of #resistance and #fascism hot takes that the word will probably become a badge of honor in a few years the same way the blue-haired pansexual girl I've recently befriended from my Lit class identifies as a "Marxist-Leninist" as of late.

It'll be pretty funny seeing the worst of the worst of political ideologies meaning absolutely nothing thanks to millennials.