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« on: December 15, 2016, 10:49:58 PM »
« edited: December 15, 2016, 10:52:02 PM by j92185 »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jackie-evancho-inauguration_us_5852a81fe4b0732b82ff0690

I think its great.  She's a wonderful talent and what a great way to symbolically stand up for trans kids at the inauguration of what will be a rotten, stinking, antigay government.  What a subtle, but effective blow to that LGBTQ conversion dude Mike Pence.
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2016, 06:10:55 PM »

i doubt pence is anti lgbt he supported a funding bill that had lgbt conversion in in it (( i am in favor of that ONLY IF THE PERSON WANTS TO BE CONVERTED!) trust me i am not anti lgbt.
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2016, 06:30:54 PM »

The suggestion that sexual orientation can be changed is preposterous.  Are straight people forced to go to conversion therapy to become gay?  Do ANY straight people seek out conversion therapy to become gay?  That's how ridiculous the whole entire concept is.

If a person feels uncomfortable with sex, whether they be straight or gay, they can choose to abstain and be celibate.
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2016, 06:32:49 PM »

i doubt pence is anti lgbt he supported a funding bill that had lgbt conversion in in it (( i am in favor of that ONLY IF THE PERSON WANTS TO BE CONVERTED!) trust me i am not anti lgbt.

Literally no one would choose to be put through conversion therapy. Conversion therapy does not work. It creates suicides, depression, and enforces a narrative that being gay is unnatural.
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2016, 06:34:09 PM »

i doubt pence is anti lgbt he supported a funding bill that had lgbt conversion in in it (( i am in favor of that ONLY IF THE PERSON WANTS TO BE CONVERTED!) trust me i am not anti lgbt.

Literally no one would choose to be put through conversion therapy. Conversion therapy does not work. It creates suicides, depression, and enforces a narrative that being gay is unnatural.
Literally thousands of people do it every year. Whether it works or not is another story, but that doesn't change the facts.
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2016, 06:43:46 PM »

i doubt pence is anti lgbt he supported a funding bill that had lgbt conversion in in it (( i am in favor of that ONLY IF THE PERSON WANTS TO BE CONVERTED!) trust me i am not anti lgbt.

Literally no one would choose to be put through conversion therapy. Conversion therapy does not work. It creates suicides, depression, and enforces a narrative that being gay is unnatural.
Literally thousands of people do it every year. Whether it works or not is another story, but that doesn't change the facts.

The fact that they do it, doesn't mean that they want it. More likely, they're forced by religious relatives. No one would want to go through this torture in a free society, and since the United States of America strives for a free society, it should ban psychological torture.
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2016, 07:09:01 PM »

i doubt pence is anti lgbt he supported a funding bill that had lgbt conversion in in it (( i am in favor of that ONLY IF THE PERSON WANTS TO BE CONVERTED!) trust me i am not anti lgbt.

Literally no one would choose to be put through conversion therapy. Conversion therapy does not work. It creates suicides, depression, and enforces a narrative that being gay is unnatural.
Literally thousands of people do it every year. Whether it works or not is another story, but that doesn't change the facts.

thousands of people willingly choose to listen to meghan trainor every year, doesn't mean that shouldn't be banned
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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2016, 10:22:02 PM »

I'm pretty liberal on lgbtq issues, but I do find it funny how liberals think it's a terrible crime for people to consider changing their sexual orientation, but at the same time encourage people to not accept their biological gender.
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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2016, 12:15:00 AM »

I'm pretty liberal on lgbtq issues, but I do find it funny how liberals think it's a terrible crime for people to consider changing their sexual orientation, but at the same time encourage people to not accept their biological gender.

It's a crime to manifest in our laws confirmation that certain people are lesser simply because of how they were born. It's unsurprising that people would consider "conversion therapy" after having the idea driven in them that who they are is wrong, and that only through this process can they become "normal". It is wrong, plain and simple by all measures.
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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2016, 02:49:08 AM »

Can anyone point me to this supposed lgbt conversion legislation Pence supported?
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« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2016, 03:05:02 AM »

Can anyone point me to this supposed lgbt conversion legislation Pence supported?
Running for congress he wanted to take all HIV funding and funnel it into conversion "therapy"
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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2016, 03:06:45 AM »

I'm pretty liberal on lgbtq issues, but I do find it funny how liberals think it's a terrible crime for people to consider changing their sexual orientation, but at the same time encourage people to not accept their biological gender.

WTF are you going on about?

I know the answer is going to be revoltingly stupid, but my curiosity has gotten the better of me.
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« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2016, 03:25:02 AM »

Can anyone point me to this supposed lgbt conversion legislation Pence supported?
Running for congress he wanted to take all HIV funding and funnel it into conversion "therapy"
What he really said is this:
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Doesn't sound like all funding to me (wouldn't apply to state funds to help people pay for drugs, for example), and there's a world of difference between assisting people in changing their behavior and changing their sexual attraction.
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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2016, 03:53:37 AM »

Can anyone point me to this supposed lgbt conversion legislation Pence supported?
Running for congress he wanted to take all HIV funding and funnel it into conversion "therapy"
What he really said is this:
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Doesn't sound like all funding to me (wouldn't apply to state funds to help people pay for drugs, for example), and there's a world of difference between assisting people in changing their behavior and changing their sexual attraction.

What are you, his lawyer?
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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2016, 04:30:24 AM »

There's a clear difference between understanding that sexuality is fluid, and that people identity differently throughout their life and supporting gay conversion therapy where teens, often Christians are put in counselling programs that sometimes have rates of suicide rates of up to 80%
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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2016, 06:41:48 AM »

There's a clear difference between understanding that sexuality is fluid, and that people identity differently throughout their life and supporting gay conversion therapy where teens, often Christians are put in counselling programs that sometimes have rates of suicide rates of up to 80%
I definitely think conversion "therapy" is a waste of time and money, and I can see where such programs could increase suicide rates among those subjected to them, but that's such an extreme number I must say [CITATION NEEDED].
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2016, 10:46:13 AM »

Have the libs threatened this little kid yet?
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2016, 05:15:14 PM »

Have the libs threatened this little kid yet?

Probably depends upon whether you consider telling her to get paid upfront because of the Trump campaign's past ill-treatment of young performers to be a threat.
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2016, 07:11:18 PM »
« Edited: December 20, 2016, 07:15:15 PM by shua »

Can anyone point me to this supposed lgbt conversion legislation Pence supported?
Running for congress he wanted to take all HIV funding and funnel it into conversion "therapy"
What he really said is this:
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Doesn't sound like all funding to me (wouldn't apply to state funds to help people pay for drugs, for example), and there's a world of difference between assisting people in changing their behavior and changing their sexual attraction.

What are you, his lawyer?

Sometimes I get tired of people repeating lies that snowball into hysteria, suspicion, fear, panic, division, etc.
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