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Terry the Fat Shark
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« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2017, 11:35:49 PM »

Prime Minister Truman, I am not going to choose a side in the conflict. Secretary of State TedBessell and I are contacting China and South Korea to make sure we continue to be in communication, but we aren't going to escalate tensions on the Korean Peninsula or make an even worse enemy if we choose the wrong side, that would be the worst possible option.
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« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2017, 11:52:55 PM »

Prime Minister Truman, I am not going to choose a side in the conflict. Secretary of State TedBessell and I are contacting China and South Korea to make sure we continue to be in communication, but we aren't going to escalate tensions on the Korean Peninsula or make an even worse enemy if we choose the wrong side, that would be the worst possible option.
Well, of course not. I never proposed anything of the sort; in fact, I'm a little worried that you felt the need even to say this (I would hope no-one in the administration is advocating for this approach). The main object here is not the internal politics of North Korea, but the security of our allies in the region and the stability of the East Asian market. To that end, there ought be no question in the minds of our allies that we would come to their aid in the event that the DPRK should make war against them.

I'm glad to hear the lines of communication to Beijing and Seoul remain open; I trust efforts will be made to calm Tokyo as well. Speaking as the former Secretary of State and erstwhile president of the republic, I am ever willing to do anything I can to bring about the swift and peaceful stabilization of the region, should the administration so desire it.
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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2017, 11:57:40 PM »

Of course, my philosophy is that we should only go to war if we or our allies are attacked. If North Korea has the audacity to attack South Korea, Japan, or US, we will have all options on the table to strike back.
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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2017, 04:51:42 PM »

Of course, my philosophy is that we should only go to war if we or our allies are attacked. If North Korea has the audacity to attack South Korea, Japan, or US, we will have all options on the table to strike back.

If they are currently edging on civil war, I don't think the worry is them attacking South Korea. More likely that militant groups will gain control of nuclear weapons. That's what we should be worried about here, and be looking how to stop and secure the weapons.
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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2017, 09:07:16 PM »

DFW, I consider myself a non-interventionist, but there's no way you can actually think this is the best idea, is there? I strongly encourage you to reconsider this decision.
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« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2017, 05:03:05 PM »

DFW, I consider myself a non-interventionist, but there's no way you can actually think this is the best idea, is there? I strongly encourage you to reconsider this decision.
I'm not sure what you mean here, there is no reason for us to act in a substantial way (IE non-diplomatically) unless we are attacked or we have evidence that an attack is coming that can be seriously backed up. Non-interventionists aren't actually non-interventionists unless they carry out their belief.
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« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2017, 06:14:48 PM »

there is no reason for us to act in a substantial way (IE non-diplomatically)
Huh

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds as if you're implying diplomacy does not constitute a "substantial" foreign policy - which makes me think we're operating off two very different definitions of the term. Is there an actual plan in place (beyond "not getting involved"), or are we flying by the seat of our pants here?
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« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2017, 06:34:06 PM »

Non-interventionism literally means that you still diplomatically deal with things but that you do not intervene in wars and such, we still have alliances which are vital and thus we will defend the alliances if needed. What I am saying to be clear (and not sure people need me to keep repeating the same thing over and over to understand this) is that we will continue to speak with China and South Korea to stay on the same page while monitoring the situation in North Korea. We will not send troops into North Korea and we will not bomb North Korea et al. As I said before, if North Korea attacks or there is evidence we are about to attack, then we will get involved.
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« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2017, 06:37:10 PM »

Just read Reply #25 and you will see what the plan is.
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« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2017, 11:13:44 PM »

Just read Reply #25 and you will see what the plan is.
Not really, no. I understand that the administration is communicating with China and South Korea; it is not clear to me if we are attempting to resolve the crisis, or simply watching and waiting. I apologize if I'm badgering you, I just find the whole situation interesting and I'm curious.
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« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2017, 11:23:01 PM »

Just read Reply #25 and you will see what the plan is.
Not really, no. I understand that the administration is communicating with China and South Korea; it is not clear to me if we are attempting to resolve the crisis, or simply watching and waiting. I apologize if I'm badgering you, I just find the whole situation interesting and I'm curious.
Ah ok, at the moment we are monitoring and waiting to see how the situation evolves before taking any possible actions, I prefer to leave it to China and South Korea (along with other potential members on the world state, including Russia) to see what they would like to do as they are much closer than we are and thus much more at risk of a possible attack.
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« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2017, 04:02:52 AM »

Is this still the DoS thread?  I haven't seen anything from Snowguy since he was confirmed.
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