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« on: December 17, 2016, 11:08:40 AM »

Based on your inner gut, will he have one or two terms?
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2016, 11:24:03 AM »

I think he will either have a poor midterm and then win reelection, or have a good midterm and then lose reelection. My gut says the latter.
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2016, 11:37:04 AM »

Hopefully much more than 2 terms.
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2016, 11:54:27 AM »
« Edited: December 22, 2016, 10:30:25 PM by Fuzzy Bear »

He will be a transformational President and a consensus leader, as Reagan was.  He will be compared to Reagan constantly, and he will match up well.

He will bring the GOP to heel because nothing succeeds like success.  

By the end of Trump's terms of office (I believe he'll be re-elected, and I believe he'll carry New York his second time out.) the GOP will be the party of the moderates and conservatives, and the Democratic Party will be the narrow, ideological party stuck on the outside looking in.  The Democrats are about to enter a point of being the minority party akin to where they were from the end of the Civil War to 1930.  Not because they have to, but because they are terminally stupid at this point.
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2016, 01:11:40 PM »
« Edited: December 17, 2016, 04:44:02 PM by L.D. Smith »

You know who else: Ran as a Washington Outsider, won Wisconsin out of the blue, got slightly less than a majority in the primaries because The West said "oh eff no", faced an opponent expected to be a lock but barely got a majority themselves because they were moderates with one piece of baggage no one forgave and were in Washington too long, surrounded themselves with staff of questionable experience, had misgivings with an ideological House, AND advocated diplomacy with opponents the Neocon wing whined about as being too dangerous?

I'll give you a hint, that guy lost to Reagan the next cycle.

Expect the same of Trump...unless the Democrats nominate a new Dukakis or Kerry.
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2016, 02:30:37 PM »


I hope this is a joke, but I can't tell with blue avatars anymore.
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2016, 02:45:28 PM »

He will be a transformational President and a consensus leader, as Reagan was.  He will be compared to Reagan constantly, and he will match up well.

He will bring the GOP to heel because nothing succeeds like success. 

By the end of Reagan's terms of office (I believe he'll be re-elected, and I believe he'll carry New York his second time out.) the GOP will be the party of the moderates and conservatives, and the Democratic Party will be the narrow, ideological party stuck on the outside looking in.  The Democrats are about to enter a point of being the minority party akin to where they were from the end of the Civil War to 1930.  Not because they have to, but because they are terminally stupid at this point.
They also said the GOP wouldn't win the white house for decades.. You can never predict the future of a political party after one bad electoral performance. Democrats and Republicans both have simalar weaknesses and strenghths and can flip around at any time.
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2016, 02:47:05 PM »

The GOP has no long term future unless it can reach out to minorities & mostly young people. More young people come in & the electorate will only be getting more diverse.

6 of the last 7 times Dems want the popular vote, this time with more than 3M votes. On the long term there is no future for the GOP at the presidential level.

Trump was lucky to run against Hillary. Dems will get a decent candidate & Trump will face a big loss!
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2016, 02:49:51 PM »

The real test is who the Dems nominate in 2020. If it's a pro-free trade "Third Way" centrist, then they're going to lose, badly.

If it's a progressive populist with a proven track record like Bernie or Warren, then he'll be a one termer.

And no, he'll never carry New York.
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2016, 02:54:04 PM »

The GOP has no long term future unless it can reach out to minorities & mostly young people. More young people come in & the electorate will only be getting more diverse.

6 of the last 7 times Dems want the popular vote, this time with more than 3M votes. On the long term there is no future for the GOP at the presidential level.

Trump was lucky to run against Hillary. Dems will get a decent candidate & Trump will face a big loss!
Exactly, had Hillary had lost the popular vote by a significant margin then we could talk about a big loss.
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2016, 03:14:59 PM »

The Democratic Party is the dumbest party on earth, so probably eight years.
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2016, 03:15:13 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2016, 03:57:24 PM »

1 term and he is done. Hopefully, any one of the candidates like Tim Ryan or Martin Heinrich or Julian Castro will take on Trump and he loses. 

Immigration or broken boarders won't be solved by 2020 and the Nat'l debt will be rising.
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2016, 04:02:34 PM »

I think he will either have a poor midterm and then win reelection, or have a good midterm and then lose reelection. My gut says the latter.

Basically agree with this.  If Dems do well enough to flip the House in 2018, he will really let his moderate side show and probably coast to reelection.  If Republicans continue to control everything for 4 years, some foreign policy crisis, civil unrest, or recession will catch up with them.

What kind of Civil Unrest? When did that ever sink a GOP ship? I know Civil Unrest cost Johnson the D  nomination in 1968.
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2016, 04:05:18 PM »

Entirely depends on his performance as to whether he lives up to the expectations of his supporters, and that in turn will decide whether they abandon him.

  
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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2016, 04:23:57 PM »

4 years regardless of midterms if he loses the house I don't see him being savy like Bill was in 96 to bounce back and if he controls everything for the next 4 years it's all on him
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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2016, 04:28:01 PM »

If Trump gets eight years, it shows that everything we think we know about elections and the presidency is right. If the last few years have taught us anything, it's that everything we think we know about elections and the presidency is wrong, so I'm going to have to go with four years.
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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2016, 04:37:40 PM »

My gut says he doesn't serve a full four years.
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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2016, 04:50:59 PM »


WTF?
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« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2016, 04:55:40 PM »

The Democratic Party is the dumbest party on earth

I'm not quite sure.

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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2016, 05:13:10 PM »


Ayy

(Although I would say PS's problem is that the Fifth Republic is designed in a way that works against them)
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« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2016, 05:14:12 PM »

I love all these people saying that he'll be a "good" or "successful" President.

He'll be an awful President, but the Democrats are so incompetent that he might win re-election anyway. Still, my gut says 4 years, or possibly less.
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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2016, 05:20:02 PM »


Ayy

(Although I would say PS's problem is that the Fifth Republic is designed in a way that works against them)

I don't know. Mitterrand turned out to be a good fit for this after becoming President. PS as a whole, on the other hand, keeps shooting itself in a foot for years.
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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2016, 05:21:18 PM »

Hopefully it's only 4 years (or possibly less due to impeachment).
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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2016, 05:23:40 PM »

I love all these people saying that he'll be a "good" or "successful" President

What's wrong with saying that? There is no guarantee that he'll be a failure as president...

There's not, but there wasn't a guarantee he'd flub the transition either, yet here we are.
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