Vienna police to distribute 6000 anti-rape kits for women on New Year's Eve

[Tender Branson]

This includes devices with a very loud and shrill alarm and pepper spray.

Good.

http://www.revelist.com/vienna-new-years-eve-rape/vienna-new-years-eve-rape/6327

[Omega21]

This includes devices with a very loud and shrill alarm and pepper spray.

Good.

http://www.revelist.com/vienna-new-years-eve-rape/vienna-new-years-eve-rape/6327

Not even slightly good.

I doubt that there was any need for this 30 years ago.

If women need to carry around BOSE speakers with them in order not to get Raped in one of best Cities in Europe, I would restrain myself from calling that anything other than horrific.

[peterthlee]

Hong Kong should do the same thing.

[Cashew]

This includes devices with a very loud and shrill alarm and pepper spray.

Good.

http://www.revelist.com/vienna-new-years-eve-rape/vienna-new-years-eve-rape/6327

That this is even needed is outrageous.

[Intell]

Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

[Tender Branson]

Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

This is because of certain young Arab and North African males who don't have their testosterones under control.

[Kingpoleon]

Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

This is because of certain young Arab and North African males who don't have their testosterones under control.

FTFY

[Lord Halifax]

Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

This is because of certain young Arab and North African males who don't have their testosterones under control.

FTFY

Ethnicity is hardly irrelevant in this context, so no need to "fix" it.

[DavidB.]

Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

This is because of certain young Arab and North African males who don't have their testosterones under control.

FTFY

lol

[Kingpoleon]

Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

This is because of certain young Arab and North African males who don't have their testosterones under control.

FTFY

Ethnicity is hardly irrelevant in this context, so no need to "fix" it.

... are you kidding?

[DavidB.]

Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

This is because of certain young Arab and North African males who don't have their testosterones under control.

FTFY

Ethnicity is hardly irrelevant in this context, so no need to "fix" it.

... are you kidding?

Are you? Let's not pretend it's Europeans who roam around the streets on New Year's Eve grabbing women by the p***y.

[MaxQue]

Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

This is because of certain young Arab and North African males who don't have their testosterones under control.

FTFY

Ethnicity is hardly irrelevant in this context, so no need to "fix" it.

... are you kidding?

Are you? Let's not pretend it's Europeans who roam around the streets on New Year's Eve grabbing women by the p***y.

Well, given recent trends (the Roosh V crowd) and the incidents with the "migrants" (those who are criminals should painly be expelled), I'm sure there is plenty of European young men doing that and using the fact migrants are spotlighted to get away with it. As we say, opportinuity makes the rapist.

Rape did exist before Muslims arrived.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

This is because of certain young Arab and North African males who don't have their testosterones under control.

FTFY

Ethnicity is hardly irrelevant in this context, so no need to "fix" it.

... are you kidding?

Are you? Let's not pretend it's Europeans who roam around the streets on New Year's Eve grabbing women by the p***y.

Well, given recent trends (the Roosh V crowd) and the incidents with the "migrants" (those who are criminals should painly be expelled), I'm sure there is plenty of European young men doing that and using the fact migrants are spotlighted to get away with it. As we say, opportinuity makes the rapist.

Rape did exist before Muslims arrived.

     Rape and other crimes on this scale have not been a thing outside of wartime and foreign occupations. Supposing that this is not an issue primarily with migrant populations is fundamentally detached from reality.

[MaxQue]

Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

This is because of certain young Arab and North African males who don't have their testosterones under control.

FTFY

Ethnicity is hardly irrelevant in this context, so no need to "fix" it.

... are you kidding?

Are you? Let's not pretend it's Europeans who roam around the streets on New Year's Eve grabbing women by the p***y.

Well, given recent trends (the Roosh V crowd) and the incidents with the "migrants" (those who are criminals should painly be expelled), I'm sure there is plenty of European young men doing that and using the fact migrants are spotlighted to get away with it. As we say, opportinuity makes the rapist.

Rape did exist before Muslims arrived.

     Rape and other crimes on this scale have not been a thing outside of wartime and foreign occupations. Supposing that this is not an issue primarily with migrant populations is fundamentally detached from reality.

Oh, I'm aware, I just mean that's utter naivety to not believe than the local rapists don't use that chaos to hide their actions. Like I said, justice needs to be very harsh.

[Zinneke]

Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

This is because of certain young Arab and North African males who don't have their testosterones under control.

FTFY

Ethnicity is hardly irrelevant in this context, so no need to "fix" it.

... are you kidding?

Are you? Let's not pretend it's Europeans who roam around the streets on New Year's Eve grabbing women by the p***y.

Well, given recent trends (the Roosh V crowd) and the incidents with the "migrants" (those who are criminals should painly be expelled), I'm sure there is plenty of European young men doing that and using the fact migrants are spotlighted to get away with it. As we say, opportinuity makes the rapist.

Rape did exist before Muslims arrived.

     Rape and other crimes on this scale have not been a thing outside of wartime and foreign occupations. Supposing that this is not an issue primarily with migrant populations is fundamentally detached from reality.

You realise a lot of rape in our countries are 1/ domestic and 2/ unreported? Unless you are some kind of omniscient being I'd like to know how you draw your conclusions.

This has nothing to do with wartime rape either. Wartime rape is almost astronomically higher in both occurences and violence.

[Ban my account ffs!]

This is what narrowing minds looks like, folks.

[ingemann]

1/3 of all convicted rapist the last 10 year in Denmark are immigrant or 1st generation descendant of two immigrants.

Around 10% of the population belong to this group.

The four largest groups among these convicts are (shows percent of all convicted rapists).

Iraqi (7%)
Turks (4%)
Somalians (4%)
Lebanese (4%)

[Associate Justice PiT]

Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

This is because of certain young Arab and North African males who don't have their testosterones under control.

FTFY

Ethnicity is hardly irrelevant in this context, so no need to "fix" it.

... are you kidding?

Are you? Let's not pretend it's Europeans who roam around the streets on New Year's Eve grabbing women by the p***y.

Well, given recent trends (the Roosh V crowd) and the incidents with the "migrants" (those who are criminals should painly be expelled), I'm sure there is plenty of European young men doing that and using the fact migrants are spotlighted to get away with it. As we say, opportinuity makes the rapist.

Rape did exist before Muslims arrived.

     Rape and other crimes on this scale have not been a thing outside of wartime and foreign occupations. Supposing that this is not an issue primarily with migrant populations is fundamentally detached from reality.

You realise a lot of rape in our countries are 1/ domestic and 2/ unreported? Unless you are some kind of omniscient being I'd like to know how you draw your conclusions.

This has nothing to do with wartime rape either. Wartime rape is almost astronomically higher in both occurences and violence.

     Germany had about 7,700 reported rapes in 2010, and the Einzenfall tally indicated 204 events by migrants in 2016. The exact basis of the numbers isn't the same, but it's worth noting that there are only 1.2 million migrants compared to about 80 million total people in Germany. Of course, the point about domestic rape is an important one. Lots of the rapes committed by German nationals are going to be domestic ones, but the migrant ones being reported are almost all in the street (which happens to make them relevant to this topic).

     Which gets to the next point, which is that the issue with underreporting is indeed an important one. For one thing, I doubt that there are actually very few domestic migrant rapes. But also, there have been police claiming that there is pressure not to report migrant crimes and that they were ordered to try and cover up the Cologne attacks. In a country where guilt is part of the official ideology taught in schools, the underreporting of migrant crimes is going to be a major confounding factor.

     On the other hand, it is worth noting from the stats in this article (I know it's Breitbart, but mainstream sources are never going to report on these numbers), that while migrants and other foreign nationals are over-represented in sex crimes, it pales compared to their staggering criminality in other categories. It also suggests that the migrants alone aren't the problem here.

[Tender Branson]

This New Year's night doesn't look all too bad so far, compared with last years night.

So far, Vienna police reported 3 cases of sexual attacks last night, Salzburg city police also 3 and in Innsbruck 3 women (Italian, German, Romanian) were attacked by a group of 5-6 "foreign looking men".

Police presence was pretty extreme though this year.

http://derstandard.at/2000050083271/Mehrere-Frauen-in-Innsbruck-sexuell-belaestigt

[Cory]

Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

This is because of certain young Arab and North African males who don't have their testosterones under control.

FTFY

Ethnicity is hardly irrelevant in this context, so no need to "fix" it.

... are you kidding?

Are you? Let's not pretend it's Europeans who roam around the streets on New Year's Eve grabbing women by the p***y.

Well, given recent trends (the Roosh V crowd) and the incidents with the "migrants" (those who are criminals should painly be expelled), I'm sure there is plenty of European young men doing that and using the fact migrants are spotlighted to get away with it. As we say, opportinuity makes the rapist.

Rape did exist before Muslims arrived.

     Rape and other crimes on this scale have not been a thing outside of wartime and foreign occupations. Supposing that this is not an issue primarily with migrant populations is fundamentally detached from reality.

Oh, I'm aware, I just mean that's utter naivety to not believe than the local rapists don't use that chaos to hide their actions. Like I said, justice needs to be very harsh.

Everything you've said in this thread is pure Whataboutery.

[Meclazine for Israel]

The real issue is the behaviour of young men from Islamic nations of North Africa and the Middle East and their view of women in society.

They view a women's role in society in a very different way in their home land as compared to their new home in Europe.

For example, if you report rape in the Middle East, the women who was raped goes to jail for having extramarital sex:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosecution_of_Marte_Dalelv

And women can still get flogged and stoned to death as a result of adultery:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates#Flogging_and_stoning

I don't think people have a very strong grasp on how truly crap these parts of the world are towards women.

We seem to have two viewpoints of young men from these countries.

1. The Angela Merkel view where they are the nicest people in the world looking for a new opportunity and they deserve a chance because they are refugees and.......

2. Potential terrorists.

There seems to be no in between in these discussions.

This discussion about treatment of women also occurs when they travel the globe.

Females travelling alone are finding the Earth shrinking rapidly:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-15/why-women-should-travel-solo/7247912

[Figueira]

People who rape people are bad.

People who don't rape people are not all bad.

Any questions?

[Beezer]

Apparently Innsbruck missed the memo:

Police in Austria are hunting for at least six men accused of "unprecedented" sexual assaults on New Year's Eve in the city of Innsbruck.

The men, described as Asian or north African, surrounded 18 women watching a firework display, kissing and groping them, police said.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38522773

[Tender Branson]

Apparently Innsbruck missed the memo:

Police in Austria are hunting for at least six men accused of "unprecedented" sexual assaults on New Year's Eve in the city of Innsbruck.

The men, described as Asian or north African, surrounded 18 women watching a firework display, kissing and groping them, police said.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38522773

6 Afghan (*surprise*) suspects have been identified:

http://derstandard.at/2000050433620/Silvesteruebergriffe-in-Innsbruck-Sechs-Verdaechtige-ausgeforscht

One of them already confessed he committed the sexual attacks, the other 5 say "they cannot remember" what happened 9 days ago ...

[Omega21]

Meanwhile, Crime in Vienna explodes.

http://m.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/114-520-Straftaten-Kriminalitaet-in-Wien-explodiert/264863734