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« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2016, 06:39:26 PM »

Not going to change anything anyway.
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« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2016, 07:22:53 PM »

Next summer I'll be building houses in the newest, freshest outposts again anyway, probably with the support of the U.S. administration. Cry moar, Obama!

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« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2016, 08:09:20 PM »

Next summer I'll be building houses in the newest, freshest outposts again anyway, probably with the support of the U.S. administration. Cry moar, Obama!



That's disgusting. The settlements are reprehensible.
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« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2016, 08:14:28 PM »

So which of the third world nations that constantly push these resolutions will replace the lost funding when Donald Trump and the GOP congress remove the UN's gravy train
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« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2016, 08:15:04 PM »

Next summer I'll be building houses in the newest, freshest outposts again anyway, probably with the support of the U.S. administration. Cry moar, Obama!



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« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2016, 08:15:19 PM »
« Edited: December 23, 2016, 08:16:59 PM by DavidB. »

That's disgusting. The settlements are reprehensible.

Ordinary villages in which people build houses and live with their families are reprehensible, just because it's Jews living there? Antisemitism 101, and one day the world will understand the insane freakout over SETTLEMENTS is just that.

Or not. It's not as if I care much, because we will keep building until Mashiach comes anyway.

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« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2016, 08:27:49 PM »

That's disgusting. The settlements are reprehensible.

Ordinary villages in which people build houses and live with their families are reprehensible, just because it's Jews living there? Antisemitism 101, and one day the world will understand the insane freakout over SETTLEMENTS is just that.

Or not. It's not as if I care much, because we will keep building until Mashiach comes anyway.

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Accusing a Jew of antisemitism, good job. No, the reprehensible part is kicking the Palestinians who already live there out so Jews can move in and build. 
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« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2016, 08:31:00 PM »

Settlements are an invasion of a foreign country by Israel. Should France start building towns in Belgium?

They should be evacuated and bombed.
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« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2016, 08:35:35 PM »

They should be evacuated and bombed.
Ask weed man to do it. But only if you like a mushroom cloud in your backyard.
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« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2016, 08:37:01 PM »

Settlements are an invasion of a foreign country by Israel. Should France start building towns in Belgium?

They should be evacuated and bombed.

They're not a foreign country. There has never been an independent country of Palestine. Never. They are former Jordanian and Egyptian territory taken in defensive wars, and before 1948 they were holdings of various empires.

Whether they should be part of a future Palestine, yeah, most likely. That's something that will be settled in final negotiations, not by UN fiat. Until such a time, Israel should and will hold on to them as one of the few bargaining chips they have at the table.

Your last point is laughable. Who would do the bombing? What usually happens when world powers get bombed?
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« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2016, 08:45:42 PM »

They should be evacuated and bombed.
Ask weed man to do it. But only if you like a mushroom cloud in your backyard.

You're aware any threat to throw a nuclear bomb on the West will probably cause the extinction of the Jewish people? West would stop protecting you against Arabs and there would be en explosion in anti-semitic crimes.

We all know than, internatonally, the best for Israel would be a sign a peace deal and then loudly complain about every violation by Palestinians until it fell down. Created a ton of goodwill towards them in the 90's. Confronting the West is going to deal you nowhere.
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« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2016, 08:46:01 PM »

Settlements are an invasion of a foreign country by Israel. Should France start building towns in Belgium?

They should be evacuated and bombed.

They're not a foreign country. There has never been an independent country of Palestine. Never. They are former Jordanian and Egyptian territory taken in defensive wars, and before 1948 they were holdings of various empires.

Whether they should be part of a future Palestine, yeah, most likely. That's something that will be settled in final negotiations, not by UN fiat. Until such a time, Israel should and will hold on to them as one of the few bargaining chips they have at the table.

Your last point is laughable. Who would do the bombing? What usually happens when world powers get bombed?
There is a Palestinian state, it's called Jordan
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« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2016, 08:52:06 PM »
« Edited: December 23, 2016, 08:57:04 PM by Sweet Meteor O' Death 2016 »

Settlements are an invasion of a foreign country by Israel. Should France start building towns in Belgium?

They should be evacuated and bombed.

They're not a foreign country. There has never been an independent country of Palestine. Never. They are former Jordanian and Egyptian territory taken in defensive wars, and before 1948 they were holdings of various empires.

Whether they should be part of a future Palestine, yeah, most likely. That's something that will be settled in final negotiations, not by UN fiat. Until such a time, Israel should and will hold on to them as one of the few bargaining chips they have at the table.

Your last point is laughable. Who would do the bombing? What usually happens when world powers get bombed?
There is a Palestinian state, it's called Jordan

That's a point that really should be made more often, but it likely won't mean anything in practice until the Hashemites are removed from power. Once the Palestinian majority takes control there, the likely scenario is the ceding of most majority-Palestinian areas to Jordan/Palestine, while the majority-Jewish areas and certain sacred sites like East Jerusalem are annexed by Israel and the Palestinians there given the chance to gain Israeli citizenship.
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« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2016, 08:53:51 PM »

They should be evacuated and bombed.
Ask weed man to do it. But only if you like a mushroom cloud in your backyard.

You're aware any threat to throw a nuclear bomb on the West will probably cause the extinction of the Jewish people? West would stop protecting you against Arabs and there would be en explosion in anti-semitic crimes.

We all know than, internatonally, the best for Israel would be a sign a peace deal and then loudly complain about every violation by Palestinians until it fell down. Created a ton of goodwill towards them in the 90's. Confronting the West is going to deal you nowhere.


I mean, you just suggested the West bomb a nuclear power. What did you expect? Calm and no retaliation?

Israel certainly isn't looking to fire nukes, but let's be perfectly clear - if "The West" is absolutely determined that Israel burn, this time we all burn together.

So maybe don't try to escalate low-boil regional conflicts into potential apocalypses?
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« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2016, 08:54:34 PM »
« Edited: December 23, 2016, 08:58:30 PM by DavidB. »

You're aware any threat to throw a nuclear bomb on the West will probably cause the extinction of the Jewish people? West would stop protecting you against Arabs and there would be en explosion in anti-semitic crimes.
You're aware that this is literally impossible? Learn some Torah, dude. That's not what the future's going to look like. Apart from that, Israel bombing Canada would be perfectly justified it Ottawa would decide to bomb the settlements. Not that le weed man would ever have the balls to do anything like that.

We all know than, internatonally, the best for Israel would be a sign a peace deal and then loudly complain about every violation by Palestinians until it fell down. Created a ton of goodwill towards them in the 90's.
Haha, yeah, because we got so much goodwill when we unilaterally withdrew from Gaza because of cucked politicians. Totally worth the rockets raining down on Southern Israel destroying these people's lives! And the First Intifada was also totally worth it, because the world absolutely loved us and wasn't that sweet? Roll Eyes

You know when the Jewish people were most popular? When we got slaughtered. We're not popular if we defend ourselves. But we can deal with that.
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« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2016, 09:38:00 PM »

Good, hopefully we can have a peace solution, based upon 1968 borders, and the guarantee of civic and political equality in both Israel and Palestine under UN supervision.

Shame to see so many people supporting a racist ideology against Palestinian and Arab people, so deplorable. One day the world will see the Israel settlement for what is, colonialism, and apartheid against people of a different race.

So many racists in this thread.
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« Reply #41 on: December 23, 2016, 09:40:09 PM »

Good, hopefully we can have a peace solution, based upon 1968 borders, and the guarantee of civic and political equality in both Israel and Palestine under UN supervision.

Shame to see so many people supporting a racist ideology against Palestinian and Arab people, so deplorable. One day the world will see the Israel settlement for what is, colonialism, and apartheid against people of a different race.

So many racists in this thread.

Are you Australian Aborigine?
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« Reply #42 on: December 23, 2016, 09:48:39 PM »

A sad day in American history. Obama has proved that at this point, all he cares about is his legacy, whether or not it is good for America or consistent with our values.

Agreed.  It's almost as if he's said to himself, "how much more damage can I do before I leave office?"
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« Reply #43 on: December 23, 2016, 09:48:56 PM »

The one who's really a "colonialist settler", as Ray Goldfield correctly alludes to, is Intell, who lives in a country that his ancestors did not have any connection to. Jews who return to Israel, by contrast, objectively have a connection to Israel that is thousands of years old.

Another reminder, by the way, that any tears in this thread shed over the existence and growth of the settlement enterprise taste delicious. I may bump this thread with a selfie from my favorite outpost next summer!
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« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2016, 09:49:47 PM »

Good, hopefully we can have a peace solution, based upon 1968 borders, and the guarantee of civic and political equality in both Israel and Palestine under UN supervision.

Shame to see so many people supporting a racist ideology against Palestinian and Arab people, so deplorable. One day the world will see the Israel settlement for what is, colonialism, and apartheid against people of a different race.

So many racists in this thread.

Are you Australian Aborigine?

No, but Australia like other conturies, was founded on colonialism and imperialism, and participated in genocidde against aboriginals, these days its much better. A contury can change since it's intent of foundation, and be a great contury, like South Africa, and Australia.

The sad thing is Israeli Zionism, was never racist, and anti-Palestinian, and was a dream of an Israeli, in many cases socialist homeland of social and political equality for all, and has only in the past 50 years?, with the Cold War has only started to get horrible, and in many cases racist.

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« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2016, 09:53:23 PM »


Wait a sec....you're saying that this was "a good move", and that we're "on the right side of history"? What the hell are you smoking? We just betrayed our oldest, and perhaps only, middle eastern ally.  This is a despicable act.  Sad
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« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2016, 09:53:53 PM »

The one who's really a "colonialist settler", as Ray Goldfield correctly alludes to, is Intell, who lives in a country that his ancestors did not have any connection to. Jews who return to Israel, by contrast, objectively have a connection to Israel that is thousands of years old.

Another reminder, by the way, that any tears in this thread shed over the existence and growth of the settlement enterprise taste delicious. I may bump this thread with a selfie from my favorite outpost next summer!

Living in Israel, would be fine, living in Palestine would be fine, living in Palestine, and then the Israeli government, taking Palestinian land through the fact of war, and infringing on the rights of the Palestinian people that already live there is not fine.
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« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2016, 10:01:04 PM »

Shame to see so many people supporting a racist ideology against Palestinian and Arab people, so deplorable. One day the world will see the Israel settlement for what is, colonialism, and apartheid against people of a different race.

Sigh....here we go again! The Palestinians have been using terror and destruction to attempt to strike fear into Israelis for years.  They have no interest in peace at all.  Indeed, in the 90s, Israel and Palestine were closer to peace than ever before....but a Palestinian assassin had to ruin it by killing Yitzak Rabin, the prime minister of Israel.  The Palestinians hate the Jewish people...but they aren't the racists, people like me are.  Unbelievable....SMH.  Sad
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« Reply #48 on: December 24, 2016, 01:06:47 AM »

Shame to see so many people supporting a racist ideology against Palestinian and Arab people, so deplorable. One day the world will see the Israel settlement for what is, colonialism, and apartheid against people of a different race.

Sigh....here we go again! The Palestinians have been using terror and destruction to attempt to strike fear into Israelis for years.  They have no interest in peace at all.  Indeed, in the 90s, Israel and Palestine were closer to peace than ever before....but a Palestinian assassin had to ruin it by killing Yitzak Rabin, the prime minister of Israel.  The Palestinians hate the Jewish people...but they aren't the racists, people like me are.  Unbelievable....SMH.  Sad
Nationalists on both sides skew towards racism. Why the hell do both sides paint it so black and white? Just cause one side is horrible doesn't mean the other is innocent. In this case. Quite the opposite.
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« Reply #49 on: December 24, 2016, 01:37:29 AM »

Shame to see so many people supporting a racist ideology against Palestinian and Arab people, so deplorable. One day the world will see the Israel settlement for what is, colonialism, and apartheid against people of a different race.

Sigh....here we go again! The Palestinians have been using terror and destruction to attempt to strike fear into Israelis for years.  They have no interest in peace at all.  Indeed, in the 90s, Israel and Palestine were closer to peace than ever before....but a Palestinian assassin had to ruin it by killing Yitzak Rabin, the prime minister of Israel.  The Palestinians hate the Jewish people...but they aren't the racists, people like me are.  Unbelievable....SMH.  Sad

Yitzak Rabin was assassinated by Yigal Amir, a Jewish right-wing radical, who was opposed to the Oslo Accords. Learn the history before spitting out lies.
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