Harry Reid: The DNC was worthless under Debbie Wasserman Schultz
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« on: December 25, 2016, 12:53:20 PM »

http://www.salon.com/2016/12/22/harry-reid-trashes-democratic-national-committee-the-dnc-has-been-worthless/
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/311506-reid-dnc-was-worthless-under-wasserman-schultz

He refuses to even call her by her name.  He calls her "that congresswoman from Florida".  WTF was Obama thinking when he appointed her head of the DNC?  She has single-handedly destroyed the party with her antics.
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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2016, 01:03:31 PM »

It's been relieving to see the political destruction of DWS over the past year. She's such a callous politician it's honestly disconcerting.
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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2016, 01:10:44 PM »

More proof that she was only kept on because people were afraid she'd smear them to no end if she was fired.
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2016, 01:43:26 PM »

HP criticized HP. Shocking!
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2016, 01:44:04 PM »

I wonder how long it wqs before Reid realized the obvious and got guts to say anything?
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2016, 01:45:52 PM »

Antisemite! Sexist!
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2016, 02:04:46 PM »

Maybe if the Democrats had realized that before 2014, they could have actually done something. It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2016, 02:11:02 PM »

Can Harry Reid run for Chair please
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2016, 02:11:59 PM »

Lol NOW everyone is saying things. You guys fell in line when Hillary was your savior
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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2016, 02:38:02 PM »

DWS had one big job this year and that was to put together the convention. And she did a great job! Hillary got a huge bounce coming out of the DNC in Philadelphia. It was the campaign's fault, not that of DWS that they couldn't hold onto it. To bad DWS couldn't even enjoy the convention because of the barbaric Bernie fanatics.
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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2016, 02:47:35 PM »

Lol NOW everyone is saying things. You guys fell in line when Hillary was your savior

Nope. We hated DWS in 2014 when she cost us the Senate, we hated her when she botched the primaries to help her candidate (as a Hillary fan, I don't like that her victory was marred), and we hate her now that she basically ruined the Democratic brand in the general, even not being chair any more.
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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2016, 02:55:03 PM »

DWS had one big job this year and that was to put together the convention. And she did a great job! Hillary got a huge bounce coming out of the DNC in Philadelphia. It was the campaign's fault, not that of DWS that they couldn't hold onto it. To bad DWS couldn't even enjoy the convention because of the barbaric Bernie fanatics.

I think you live in an alternate reality.
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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2016, 03:02:09 PM »

More proof that she was only kept on because people were afraid she'd smear them to no end if she was fired.

Oh no! Some political has-been is gonna smear me and make me look stoopid. oh noes. ;_;

It shows how many wusses are in government.
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« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2016, 03:53:20 PM »

DWS had one big job this year and that was to put together the convention. And she did a great job! Hillary got a huge bounce coming out of the DNC in Philadelphia. It was the campaign's fault, not that of DWS that they couldn't hold onto it. To bad DWS couldn't even enjoy the convention because of the barbaric Bernie fanatics.

I think you live in an alternate reality.
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« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2016, 04:40:03 PM »

DWS had one big job this year and that was to put together the convention. And she did a great job! Hillary got a huge bounce coming out of the DNC in Philadelphia. It was the campaign's fault, not that of DWS that they couldn't hold onto it. To bad DWS couldn't even enjoy the convention because of the barbaric Bernie fanatics.

You are truly clueless.
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« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2016, 05:37:42 PM »


effective HP vs incompetent HP to be fair. Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2016, 05:38:21 PM »

She and Tim Kaine are the reasons why a sitting officeholder cannot chair the DNC.  The DNC chairmanship is a full time job and the person holding the position needs to eat, breathe, and sleep party politics.
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« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2016, 08:00:17 PM »

The entirety of the Democratic Party's leadership under Obama needs to be wiped clean so we can start over. Obama himself wasn't bad or incompetent, but all those who ran the party underneath him which, to a certain extent, was a reflection of his poor leadership skills, watched the party's numbers being decimated at every level of government and did absolutely nothing to halt or reverse it except point fingers and name call.

In reality, DWS was merely a symptom of the party's disease.
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« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2016, 08:48:19 PM »

The entirety of the Democratic Party's leadership under Obama needs to be wiped clean so we can start over. Obama himself wasn't bad or incompetent, but all those who ran the party underneath him which, to a certain extent, was a reflection of his poor leadership skills, watched the party's numbers being decimated at every level of government and did absolutely nothing to halt or reverse it except point fingers and name call.

In reality, DWS was merely a symptom of the party's disease.

The issue is that Obama never wanted to get involved in the party politics side of things and always despised it. He just saw himself as above and beyond that. In hindsight, I think he should have cleaned the ship the second he became President, but his major flaw crept in, which seemed to be that he just has too much faith in other people. I think in another time and place that kind of leadership would be suitable, but what the party needed at the time was someone like LBJ.
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« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2016, 09:50:31 PM »
« Edited: December 25, 2016, 09:57:12 PM by Mr.Phips »

The entirety of the Democratic Party's leadership under Obama needs to be wiped clean so we can start over. Obama himself wasn't bad or incompetent, but all those who ran the party underneath him which, to a certain extent, was a reflection of his poor leadership skills, watched the party's numbers being decimated at every level of government and did absolutely nothing to halt or reverse it except point fingers and name call.

In reality, DWS was merely a symptom of the party's disease.

The issue is that Obama never wanted to get involved in the party politics side of things and always despised it. He just saw himself as above and beyond that. In hindsight, I think he should have cleaned the ship the second he became President, but his major flaw crept in, which seemed to be that he just has too much faith in other people. I think in another time and place that kind of leadership would be suitable, but what the party needed at the time was someone like LBJ.

And the Democratic party will be paying for this for many years. Obama needed to have a Karl Rove in the White House who had a one track focus on party politics at all times.  Instead, Obama tore town the 50 state strategy and filled the DNC with hacks that only cared about getting him re-elected in 2012.

Democrats who blindly followed Obama's tearing down of the 50 state strategy and allowing the state Democratic parties to rot away now.deserve what they get in President Trump. 
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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2016, 09:39:09 AM »

The first correct thing he's said in 30 years
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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2016, 11:31:10 AM »

As Obama himself pointed out this morning on CNN's "The Axe Files", the Democratic Party had a fundamental failing in 2008. They were able to reach the Presidency and govern through the White House but failed to have the political support from the heartland for their agenda. Ergo losing Congress.

This sums up the Obama years

This also applies to Trump and his inability to reach coastal areas and major urban areas (which, yes, Virginia, he does need just as much as Obama needed the heartland) to gain popular support for his agenda.

Viewed in this context, Obama's presidency looks like a mixed success - he got a ton through, despite having very little political support. But because of that lack of heartland political support, a lot will be undone. Same for Trump with the next Democratic president.

The country is going to keep going through presidents left and right until someone wins that can unite the coastal areas and the heartland behind a common agenda and power a Congressional majority on that agenda and majoritarian support.

This is the problem when you win by just 51-52% and in concentrated areas of the country.
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« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2016, 01:04:32 PM »

This seems like good advice.

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Democrats Call for Focus on Narrative, White Voters After 2014 Losses

The Democratic Party’s autopsy of its devastating defeat in 2014 calls for a renewed focus on the party’s message and winning back white Southern voters.
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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2016, 01:35:04 PM »

obama has had "heartland" support in 2008....and then got countered by unknown levels of resistance on all possible levels.

imho republicans should have made deals with obama .....now everyone is pissed as hell.

no president should ever again meet this level of obstructionism....i am somehow relieved that democrats are too weak right now to be a good scapegoat for trump.

the people are going to feel his agenda hard and good.
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« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2016, 01:58:02 PM »

obama has had "heartland" support in 2008....and then got countered by unknown levels of resistance on all possible levels.

imho republicans should have made deals with obama .....now everyone is pissed as hell.

no president should ever again meet this level of obstructionism....i am somehow relieved that democrats are too weak right now to be a good scapegoat for trump.

the people are going to feel his agenda hard and good.

A lot of the Congressional Democratic majority were built on Blue Dogs. In hindsight, not the best foundation for passing a substantive Democratic majority. I imagine that won't be a problem next time but still.
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