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« on: December 26, 2016, 01:43:13 PM »

This piece explains that relations between Iran the United States need not always be on the edge of apocalypse:

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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2016, 05:15:06 PM »

Yes, Iran needs to be brought in from the cold. A nasty regime, but can anyone honestly say they are worse than the west's supposed "allies" in the region? Let's face it Saudi and Qatari backed terrorism is far more perilous for the wider world nowadays anyway.
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2016, 06:50:11 PM »

Yes, Iran needs to be brought in from the cold. A nasty regime, but can anyone honestly say they are worse than the west's supposed "allies" in the region? Let's face it Saudi and Qatari backed terrorism is far more perilous for the wider world nowadays anyway.

Yeah, Iran is far less nasty than Saudi Arabia and their ilk. I'd rather grudgingly support Iran, especially since they are outnumbered by the Sunni states.
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2016, 09:56:43 PM »

We shouldn't consider them the harbinger of Satan, so yes some sort of detente and restoration of relations is good, but I think we should stop it at that. Don't wanna get too bogged down with another sad excuse for a Middle East "ally".
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2016, 12:24:54 AM »

Can see Trump opening up to Iran. Iran is already close to his buddy Putin. Plus it's right of the Nixon playbook that Trump seems to be following.
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2016, 01:49:18 AM »

This thread would make more sense if made 1-2 years ago.
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2016, 04:29:14 AM »

Maybe after the current Ayatollah dies, Iran renounces its nuclear program, and stops (along with its cronies in Hezbollah) threatening a genocide in Israel, the U.S. should consider it. Without that, especially the latter part, it would be like restoring relations with Nazi Germany or North Korea. Doesn't matter what're your opinions on the Middle Eastern situation, you can't legitimize a country that threatens to "wipe off the map" another country, also known as genocide.
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2016, 05:30:32 AM »

Well the two have a common enemy in ISIS; and there is nothing better than a common enemy to unite two rivals.
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2016, 12:25:40 PM »

Well the two have a common enemy in ISIS; and there is nothing better than a common enemy to unite two rivals.

Well technically everybody has a common enemy in Isis, seeing as Isis view all other organisations and governments as illegitimate
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2016, 03:03:32 PM »

Yes, Iran needs to be brought in from the cold. A nasty regime, but can anyone honestly say they are worse than the west's supposed "allies" in the region? Let's face it Saudi and Qatari backed terrorism is far more perilous for the wider world nowadays anyway.

Added to that, the prospect of Iran becoming a "secular" (or at the very least, pluralistic) democratic state is pretty damn obviously much more probable than it is for those despotic Salafist monarchies that you mentioned (particularly the House of Saud, whom I maintain are on a collision course toward disintegrating into openly warring factions that are aligned with correspondingly warring al-Qaeda/al-Qaeda-inspired factions - and the worst-case scenario there, of course, is one or more said factions controlling vast swathes of territory, ISIS-style, in the Arabian Peninsula. And that would/will have massively horrific ramifications for the region - and thus, the world).
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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2017, 09:15:11 AM »

With T***p in power, that's hard to see.
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