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« on: December 27, 2016, 12:10:46 PM »


Aside from the fact that all of New England going Republican while the rest of the country is relatively stable is virtually impossible, what is a scenario (besides the Democratic candidate saying "all New Englanders should be killed" or "America would be better off without New England") in which a map like this could happen?
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2016, 12:17:35 PM »

Some event would have to happen, probably localized to New England, that makes its whites operate like other whites.
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2016, 04:04:04 PM »

If the democrat candidate says something like "I miss a-rod" then they would lose NY in a landslide.
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2016, 04:27:28 PM »

Charlie Baker runs for President?
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2016, 03:08:27 PM »


I think that this is for 2020, so Trump would presumably be the Republican nominee aside from the fact that Republicans would never want to nominate Charlie Baker.
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2016, 06:48:22 PM »


I think that this is for 2020, so Trump would presumably be the Republican nominee aside from the fact that Republicans would never want to nominate Charlie Baker.

Charlie Baker is very popular here, but he is too moderate to win a national election with Republicans.
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2016, 08:24:33 PM »

Trump dumps Pence for Charlie Baker, promises single payer or universal healthcare, promises increased infrastructure spending($50B+), for New England in particular, and also makes a big fight against taking in refugees, as refugee sheltering is slightly unpopular in New England. Richard Grenell is made U. N. Ambassador or another high ranking foreign policy position. Trump ties himself to Susan Collins, Phil Scott, Chris Sununu, and Charlie Baker, while working with Sanders and Warren on healthcare, fighting free trade, and infrastructure spending.
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2016, 01:40:32 PM »

Baker is definitely the candidate in this situation. Most likely scenario is Trump bowing out after four and Baker beating Pence in an underpopulated primary. The Dems proceed to nominate a far-left ticket like Harris/Cortez-Masto and ignore the taken-for-granted Midwest. Left-wing radicals polarize the Democrats while Barker successfully moves the party to the center as the new "common sense majority" party, much the way the Tories in the UK have under Corbyn's Labour.
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2016, 02:48:29 PM »

Some event would have to happen, probably localized to New England, that makes its whites operate like other whites.

Pretty much this. Something of a Hurricane Katrina level disaster hits Boston and a Republican responds to it well and helps rebuild.

Then again, Louisiana swung to the Republicans in 2008, so who knows?
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2016, 04:09:41 PM »

The Dems proceed to nominate a far-left ticket like Harris/Cortez-Masto and ignore the taken-for-granted Midwest. Left-wing radicals polarize the Democrats while Barker successfully moves the party to the center as the new "common sense majority" party, much the way the Tories in the UK have under Corbyn's Labour.

Harris/Masto is a "far-left ticket"? Huh Okay, I guess I could understand why someone might refer to a, say, Sanders/Warren ticket as "far-left" (though, obviously, that label is highly inaccurate), but I can't even begin to comprehend how you would consider Kamala Harris to be the American analogue of Jeremy Corbyn.

We don't have frothing, anti-semitic communists as major party candidates in this country. Corbyn would be off in the greens or one of the socialist parties over here.

In terms of the Democrat party, Harris and Cortez-Masto are definitely on its left flank. Maybe Baldwin/(Sherrod) Brown is a better ticket to illustrate this, though. Warren can't be on the ticket because of the New England sweep in this scenario.
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2016, 04:18:36 PM »

The Dems proceed to nominate a far-left ticket like Harris/Cortez-Masto and ignore the taken-for-granted Midwest. Left-wing radicals polarize the Democrats while Barker successfully moves the party to the center as the new "common sense majority" party, much the way the Tories in the UK have under Corbyn's Labour.

Harris/Masto is a "far-left ticket"? Huh Okay, I guess I could understand why someone might refer to a, say, Sanders/Warren ticket as "far-left" (though, obviously, that label is highly inaccurate), but I can't even begin to comprehend how you would consider Kamala Harris to be the American analogue of Jeremy Corbyn.
It is true that Harris was not the most far-left Democrat in the 2016 US Senate race in California. The most far-left Democrat in that race was Emory Rodgers, who finished behind several Republicans in the primary. Corbyn is even far to the left of Rodgers.
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2016, 10:06:58 PM »

The Dems proceed to nominate a far-left ticket like Harris/Cortez-Masto and ignore the taken-for-granted Midwest. Left-wing radicals polarize the Democrats while Barker successfully moves the party to the center as the new "common sense majority" party, much the way the Tories in the UK have under Corbyn's Labour.

Harris/Masto is a "far-left ticket"? Huh Okay, I guess I could understand why someone might refer to a, say, Sanders/Warren ticket as "far-left" (though, obviously, that label is highly inaccurate), but I can't even begin to comprehend how you would consider Kamala Harris to be the American analogue of Jeremy Corbyn.

A Sanders/Harris or Ellison/Warren ticket is pretty extreme. CCM is definitely not really extreme.
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