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« on: April 26, 2004, 05:58:15 pm »
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/04/26/jordan.terror/index.html

Don't know if this has been posted already, but here goes...
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2004, 06:09:30 pm »
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They claim to be pro Muslim, but want to attack Muslim cities(especially a devout city like Amman). Does that make any sense at all?
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2004, 06:51:24 pm »
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Quote from: Ali on April 26, 2004, 06:09:30 pm
They claim to be pro Muslim, but want to attack Muslim cities(especially a devout city like Amman). Does that make any sense at all?

Of course not, these people are not reasonable people.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2004, 12:42:58 am »
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A moderate secular Muslim is a greater threat to Al Qaeda than a secular west.

Look at Geneva under Calvin.  They killed a Priest named Severtus (sp?) for not being radical enough.  He was a Catholic with sympathies towards the Calvinists.  His moderation gave him credibility, and his peripheral criticisms seemed more threatening than a full on Catholic who had obvious reasons to oppose Calvin.

I gues Jordan just wasn't 12th Century enough for Osama's taste.  I only hope that there aren't more mega-terror attacks like this in the works.
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2004, 02:11:19 am »
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Where did they get these chemicals from? Could it be..hmm..Iraq? Oh, never mind, they never had WMDs.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2004, 02:43:18 am »
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Where did they get these chemicals from? Could it be..hmm..Iraq? Oh, never mind, they never had WMDs.
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2004, 08:22:41 am »
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This just proves my point that Iraq had a chemical weapons program. Where else in that region of the world can produce up to 30k pounds of chemicals? I don't know much about industry over there (maybe Dunn does), but the only country that I believe is capable of making such chemicals on a large scale would have been Iraq. I believe the Allies did not move fast enough into Iraq at the beginning of the war and most of the chemicals were shipped to Syria or Jordan.
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2004, 09:11:35 am »
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This just proves my point that Iraq had a chemical weapons program. Where else in that region of the world can produce up to 30k pounds of chemicals? I don't know much about industry over there (maybe Dunn does), but the only country that I believe is capable of making such chemicals on a large scale would have been Iraq. I believe the Allies did not move fast enough into Iraq at the beginning of the war and most of the chemicals were shipped to Syria or Jordan.

you are so right - it's just not shipped, but cross a border, with  a few trucks and goverment co-op
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2004, 09:19:18 am »
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Dunn, is it true that Iraq had the largest industry in that area?
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2004, 09:40:41 am »
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Dunn, is it true that Iraq had the largest industry in that area?
define the area
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2004, 11:51:32 am »
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The Middle east and the borders would be from Turkey south, Egypt east, Iran West, Gulf States North.
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2004, 12:31:38 pm »
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The Middle east and the borders would be from Turkey south, Egypt east, Iran West, Gulf States North.
I'll dig it. In GNP I can Tell you that the emirates/Dubay/Qater are top pf thr list coz of the oil, then Israel is close (with no oil) and then with a big margin the rest. I' ll check for industry
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2004, 12:46:00 pm »
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Middle EastGDP (per capita, 2001)
   Country                         Amount
1. United Arab Emirates   $21719.90 per person  
2. Qatar                           $19472.44 per person  
3. Israel                           $19193.87 per person  
4. Kuwait                         $16879.19 per person  
5. Bahrain                        $14852.27 per person  
6. Saudi Arabia                $11068.64 per person  
7. Oman                           $7979.69 per person  
8. Turkey                          $7189.89 per person  
9. Iran                              $6712.18 per person  
10. Lebanon                     $4724.08 per person  
11. Jordan                        $4144.48 per person  
12. Syria                          $3609.78 per person  
13. Iraq                           $2349.76 per person  
14. Yemen                         $778.81 per person
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2004, 12:51:44 pm »
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GDP - industry (ie: not agriculter that goes with undevelope countries, nor services that goes with developed)

1. Qatar 67.6%  
2. Oman 55%  
3. Saudi Arabia 51.2%  
4. United Arab Emirates 46%  
5. Kuwait 39.7%  
6. Yemen 38%  
7. Bahrain 35%  
8. Turkey 30.4%  
9. Israel 30%  
10. West Bank 28%  
11. Gaza Strip 28%  
12. Jordan 26%  
13. Iran 26%  
14. Syria 23%  
15. Lebanon 21%  
16. Iraq 13%
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2004, 08:47:38 am »
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Is that industry for Iraq since Saddam was removed?
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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2004, 09:36:27 am »
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Is that industry for Iraq since Saddam was removed?
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Pre war data
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2004, 11:23:44 am »
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Interesting, thanks Dunn.
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2004, 01:22:47 pm »
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Interesting, thanks Dunn.
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you have to understand that usually the numbers are categorizrd bt agriculter/industry/services and the more agriculter the country is it's less developed - the more service % the more developed. Industry % are not that good data
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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2004, 04:12:37 pm »
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Turkey would be the biggest 'real' (non-oil) economy in the middle east.  Though I'm sure Isreal has more 'industry' as far as anything up to date and competitive.
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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2004, 04:18:25 pm »
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Turkey would be the biggest 'real' (non-oil) economy in the middle east.  Though I'm sure Isreal has more 'industry' as far as anything up to date and competitive.
Turkey is not really a midlle eastern country, I mean they are European...
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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2004, 04:19:37 pm »
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Quote from: opebo on April 29, 2004, 04:12:37 pm
Turkey would be the biggest 'real' (non-oil) economy in the middle east.  Though I'm sure Isreal has more 'industry' as far as anything up to date and competitive.
Turkey is not really a midlle eastern country, I mean they are European...

Yeah they're kind of in between.  I think they're dreaming if they think they'll get into the EU though.
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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2004, 04:23:00 pm »
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Quote from: opebo on April 29, 2004, 04:12:37 pm
Turkey would be the biggest 'real' (non-oil) economy in the middle east.  Though I'm sure Isreal has more 'industry' as far as anything up to date and competitive.
Turkey is not really a midlle eastern country, I mean they are European...

Yeah they're kind of in between.  I think they're dreaming if they think they'll get into the EU though.
If Cyprus is getting in next week, Turkey will in a few years
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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2004, 04:26:16 pm »
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Quote from: opebo on April 29, 2004, 04:12:37 pm
Turkey would be the biggest 'real' (non-oil) economy in the middle east.  Though I'm sure Isreal has more 'industry' as far as anything up to date and competitive.
Turkey is not really a midlle eastern country, I mean they are European...

Yeah they're kind of in between.  I think they're dreaming if they think they'll get into the EU though.
If Cyprus is getting in next week, Turkey will in a few years

No, they're not. Cyprus is a mediterranaean country. The French will never accept Turkey, they're too Europe-racist, sort of. Not only them of course, but I believe it's more pronounced in France.

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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2004, 04:37:10 pm »
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Quote from: dunn on April 29, 2004, 04:18:25 pm
Quote from: opebo on April 29, 2004, 04:12:37 pm
Turkey would be the biggest 'real' (non-oil) economy in the middle east.  Though I'm sure Isreal has more 'industry' as far as anything up to date and competitive.
Turkey is not really a midlle eastern country, I mean they are European...

Yeah they're kind of in between.  I think they're dreaming if they think they'll get into the EU though.
If Cyprus is getting in next week, Turkey will in a few years

Cyprus will veto Turkey's application.
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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2004, 04:39:11 pm »
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Quote from: opebo on April 29, 2004, 04:12:37 pm
Turkey would be the biggest 'real' (non-oil) economy in the middle east.  Though I'm sure Isreal has more 'industry' as far as anything up to date and competitive.
Turkey is not really a midlle eastern country, I mean they are European...

Yeah they're kind of in between.  I think they're dreaming if they think they'll get into the EU though.
If Cyprus is getting in next week, Turkey will in a few years

Cyprus will veto Turkey's application.
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