Lyin' Ted is ready to introduce homophobic FADA bill

[Shadows]

The controversial First Amendment Defense Act (FADA) could be re-introduced this year, according to the bill’s Republican co-sponsors Senator Mike Lee, R-Utah, and Senator Ted Cruz, R-Texas, who say they still fully support the once-failed legislation. FADA, which protects people or businesses who refuse services to LGBTQ individuals, was introduced in 2015, but never made it past the first congressional hearing.

The bill’s text says the refusal of service can be based on two beliefs: that marriage “is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman” or “sexual relations are properly reserved to such a marriage.”

FADA allows individuals and businesses to sue the federal government for interfering with a refusal of service. It would also mandate the U.S. Attorney General to defend those businesses.

The bill already has the support of President-elect Donald Trump. In a statement on his campaign website, Trump said “If I am elected president and Congress passes the First Amendment Defense Act, I will sign it to protect the deeply held religious beliefs of Catholics and the beliefs of Americans of all faiths.”

[SteveRogers]

Are they serious with that text? Jesus, that's not even viewpoint neutral. It only lets businesses discriminate based on their anti-gay marriage beliefs. Conservatives won't even be able to defend that bill with the old, "Yeah, and a gay business owner should be able to refuse to make a cake for a fundamentalist Christian too" shtick. (Also it'd probably be struck down by even the most hackish conservative federal judge).

[Hindsight was 2020]

2018 here we come

[America Needs R'hllor]

Ew. Surprised that Trump supports it.

[Shadows]

Honestly Trump is way more tolerable than Lyin' Ted. Can you imagine Lyin' Ted as president? Trump speaks sh** but with flattery & some decent people around he can be kept on a leash.

Lyin' Ted guy is a real life lunatic, a radical extremist!

[Dr. Arch]

I will laugh in Sprout's face if Trump supports this. Unfortunately, we both end up paying the real life consequences.

[Saint Milei]

Bill is horrendous the way it is written. I'm shocked Lee went along with it. Idk why Cruz is still just gunning for the evangelical wing.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I will laugh in Sprout's face if Trump supports this. Unfortunately, we both end up paying the real life consequences.

Why? I hope Trump supports this. I've long been an advocate.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Much like when businesses have a Hillary-Kaine sign in the window, I appreciate the knowledge of homophobic views as well. Does me a great service in my large number of ongoing boycotts. Those bigots ain't getting my money.

[Devout Centrist]

I will laugh in Sprout's face if Trump supports this. Unfortunately, we both end up paying the real life consequences.

Why? I hope Trump supports this. I've long been an advocate.

True colors folks.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I will laugh in Sprout's face if Trump supports this. Unfortunately, we both end up paying the real life consequences.

Why? I hope Trump supports this. I've long been an advocate.

True colors folks.

I've never hidden my beliefs

[Ban my account ffs!]

I will laugh in Sprout's face if Trump supports this. Unfortunately, we both end up paying the real life consequences.

Why? I hope Trump supports this. I've long been an advocate.

True colors folks.

I've never hidden my beliefs

Um.. yeah.. ya have. 

[Dr. Arch]

I will laugh in Sprout's face if Trump supports this. Unfortunately, we both end up paying the real life consequences.

Why? I hope Trump supports this. I've long been an advocate.

When it gets to the point that a hospital can deny you or someone else service because you're not straight and end up paying for it with permanent damage or worse, I'll get back to you.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I will laugh in Sprout's face if Trump supports this. Unfortunately, we both end up paying the real life consequences.

Why? I hope Trump supports this. I've long been an advocate.

True colors folks.

I've never hidden my beliefs

Um.. yeah.. ya have. 

I stated so much in the thread about the cake baking.

[Ban my account ffs!]

I will laugh in Sprout's face if Trump supports this. Unfortunately, we both end up paying the real life consequences.

Why? I hope Trump supports this. I've long been an advocate.

When it gets to the point that a hospital can deny you or someone else service because you're not straight and end up paying for it with permanent damage or worse, I'll get back to you.

Don't try to tongue lash him into agreeing with you.  Unfortunately with cases like this, the hard way is the only way that will convince someone.  And judging from what I see on Atlas... it would only take one incident to change Smilo's mind... but you'll never convince him otherwise.

To paraphrase Garrison Keillor:

We're all Republicans until something bad happens to us.  Then we become Democrats.

And Smilo:  I'm talking about your political positions and ideals in general... not specifically the cake-baking issue.  You kind of revolve chaotically in a way that makes your positions very hard to actually understand. 

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Are they serious with that text? Jesus, that's not even viewpoint neutral.

[Santander]

And Smilo:  I'm talking about your political positions and ideals in general... not specifically the cake-baking issue.  You kind of revolve chaotically in a way that makes your positions very hard to actually understand. 

I understand her just fine.

[Kingpoleon]

The right to discriminate should have no limits.

[Goldwater]

The right to discriminate should have no limits.

See, I'm sympathetic to this viewpoint, but the thing is that anti-discrimination already exist. As long as things like race and gender are part of those laws, it makes no sense to exclude sexuality from those same laws.

[Xing]

Massive HB. Looks like we really are going to start moving backwards.

[Mike88]

This is a blunt violation of any constitution. The current Republican party brags all the time how they love the constitution and wish they could marry it, but then they present crap like this piece of legislation. It's just ridiculous.

[Bismarck]

Terrible. I could see some moderate republicans stopping this.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

The right to discriminate should have no limits.

I think the free market should take care of any perceived or real discrimination, so I oppose all non-discrimination legislation on principle, even if I would never support true discrimination (and it's not discrimination for a Christian bakery to not bake a cake for a gay wedding).

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Lyin' Ted needs to get a life. Enough said.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

The right to discriminate should have no limits.

I think the free market should take care of any perceived or real discrimination, so I oppose all non-discrimination legislation on principle, even if I would never support true discrimination (and it's not discrimination for a Christian bakery to not bake a cake for a gay wedding).

Lol, textbook definition, bud.