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Something I've been working on in Google Docs, I've done 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988 and 1992.

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1976

Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker (Republican), 389 Electoral votes, 53.1% of the Popular vote
Birch Bayh/Robert Byrd (Democratic), 189 Electoral votes, 46.5% of the Popular vote

The prosperity of the Nixon era led to Ronald Reagan sweeping the GOP primaries (At first, it was a dead heat between Reagan and Agnew, but once Agnew dropped out due to a corruption scandal and soon resigned as VP, Reagan became the frontrunner) (I had Agnew’s scandals revealed later)

The election was pretty close, with Bayh attacking Reagan as “Goldwater version 2”, while Reagan attacking Bayh by saying he was “Weak on Russia”. The debates were a turning point in the campaign, with the charismatic Reagan winning over the cold Bayh. Reagan won in a landslide, but it wasn’t as big as 1972. Byrd’s former KKK membership (and even being a recruiter in the 50s) led to an unusually high African-American support for Reagan, but Bayh won those voters in the end

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1980

Henry M. Jackson/Frank Church (Democratic), 414 Electoral votes, 54.3% of the Popular vote
Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker (Republican), 124 Electoral votes, 45.4% of the Popular vote

Reagan’s presidency was marked with stagflation and a war in Panama. While Reagan was at first leading by double digits due to the war, the nomination of noted hawk Henry Jackson (called by his opponents “Senator from Boeing” due to his connections with the manufacturer) shot down any narrative Reagan might have of “The Weak Democrat”. To unify the base, Jackson chose Frank Church, a known Liberal, as his VP. The race was close from then on. But as the economy went into a recession as Panamanian troops burnt down the Panama canal, Reagan’s poll numbers began to shrink A small victory (by just 2000 votes!) in California saved Reagan’s Electoral vote count from going into the double digits

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1984

Henry M. Jackson/Frank Church (Democratic), 463 Electoral votes, 55.9% of the Popular vote
Howard Baker/Orrin Hatch (Republican), 38 Electoral votes, 34.5% of the Popular vote
Jesse Helms/Larry MacDonald (Independent), 37 Electoral votes, 8.9% of the Popular vote

With peace in Panama in 1983, along with a growing economy, Henry Jackson was a very popular president by 1984. The chaotic 1984 Republican convention between Moderate “Nixonian” Howard Baker and Conservative “Reaganite” Jesse Helms led to Helm’s men to leave the convention and form an independent run. This all but assured Jackson’s victory. Helms appeared in the debates, but his support was limited to the South. Baker was 2 electoral votes away from being in 3rd place. However, Jackson’s 2nd term will be cut short, as he died of an aneurysm on May 19th, 1985. Church would have a brief presidency, as he would die on December 19th, 1986 of a pancreatic tumor. Church’s vice president, Lloyd Bentsen would be sworn in as the 41st president

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1988

Lloyd M. Bentsen/Tom Harkin (Democratic), 301 Electoral votes, 44.9% of the Popular vote
Pierre S. Du Pont IV/Jeremiah Denton (Republican), 237 Electoral votes, 42.4% of the Popular vote
Jesse Jackson/Bernie Sanders (New Alliance), 0 Electoral votes, 7.0% of the Popular vote
Evan Mecham/Richard Viguerie (Free Patriot’s), 0 Electoral votes, 5.0% of the Popular vote

Bentsen’s 1st term (1986-1989) was marked with the continuing prosperity of the Jackson and Church administrations. However, the 80s have been a bad time for the new left, who had to deal with the party that is more open to their beliefs nominating a hawk, only to be followed by the inevitable nomination of a man who started his career by attacking a pro-civil rights senator as “too liberal”.

This led to Jesse Jackson, who was given media attention due to his subtle hints at challenging Jackson in the primary in 1984, only for him to decline, to run against president Bentsen. It was a first in American politics. Jackson’s campaign fell short, only winning Mississippi, South Carolina and Vermont. But that was enough for him to announce a 3rd party run on the New Alliance Party banner. Jackson chose a notable supporter of his campaign, Burlington mayor Bernie Sanders, to be his running mate.

The Republicans, in the meantime, were pretty confident in their chances. The Democratic split gave them hope, but an insurgent far-right campaign led by Arizona Governor Evan Mecham gave the establishment a few heart attacks before people realized he was a loon. But Mecham, like Jackson, ran on a 3rd party campaign, this time he made his own party instead of just running in an already existing party like Jackson did: The Free Patriots Party. Mecham chose Richard Viguerie, a fundraiser for conservative causes (and Mecham’s campaign), as his running mate.

Both Mecham and Jackson failed to get into the debates. Bentsen vs Du Pont was based around the issues of crime, the drug war (Which was started by Nixon and continued under Reagan and Jackson. Church died before he could do anything about it and Bentsen saw no problem with it.)

While a four way race seemed interesting at first, in the end, the electoral map surprised nobody, as every state Du Pont was leading in the polls before the election, he won,. Same with Bentsen. Republicans to this day blame Mecham for their loss, and they may be right, as an exit poll question for Mecham voters showed that 92% of Mecham supporters would had voted for Du Pont had Mecham not been on the ballot. So if Mecham had not run, Du Pont would had won Texas and Ohio, giving him 289 Electoral votes and the presidency

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1992

Donald Rumsfeld/Newt Gingrich (Republican), 292 Electoral votes, 51.3% of the Popular vote
Tom Harkin/Richard Stallings (Democratic), 246 Electoral votes, 48.1% of the popular vote

After twelve years of being in the wilderness, the GOP came back to the White House with an experienced team of Rumsfeld/Gingrich, with the former being in politics since the 60s, and the latter being in politics since the 70s. To put this simply, people who were in their diapers when Donald Rumsfeld won the 1962 election for Illinois 13th district were either voting for or against him in 1992.

Tom Harkin won the primaries easily, being endorsed by Bentsen and all. Of course, they were challenges: From the left, there was Governor Larry Agran of California, and from the right, there was Governor Bob Casey Senior. Agran won the Liberal states of Vermont, California, Washington and some others, while Bob Casey won Pennsylvania, the Deep South and Oklahoma. Agran wanted to make the Democratic party a more Liberal party, while Casey just wanted to make the Democratic party a pro life party.

While the prosperity of the Jackson/Church/Bentsen administrations may have been enough to land the Democrats a 4th term, a disastrous convention following Casey’s decision to go off script and make a speech against abortion, which the crowd’s response was mixed, hurt their chances

The Republican primaries had five candidates worthy of note: Republican Minority leader Donald Rumsfeld, Senator Dan Quayle from Indiana, Conservative columnist and Nixon speechwriter Pat Buchanan from Virginia, Florida Governor Connie Mack III and Kansas Senator Nancy Kassebaum. Kassebaum’s liberalism made her drop in the polls, while Mack’s obscurity made him drop out after narrowly losing Florida, with only Colorado in his pocket. Buchanan’s socially conservative views led him to be compared to Evan Mecham, but unlike Mecham, he thinks before he speaks, which gave him a bigger following the Mecham. He won Georgia, West Virginia and Arkansas. Dan Quayle, like Buchanan, was socially conservative, but less so. Quayle also was a gaffe machine, which hurt him in the polls. He only won Indiana, Oklahoma, the Deep South, North Carolina, and a lot of the Plains and Mountain states. Rumsfeld was supported by a lot of the Republican establishment, and was the frontrunner for a long time. Rumsfeld won the rest of the states. The Republican convention went smoothly, though Buchanan went a bit off script like Casey, as Buchanan claimed that there was a culture war between the ordinary, average American and the environmentalist, the feminist, the liberal who wishes to legalize gay marriage, impose abortion on demand for all 50 states, discriminate against religious schools and women in combat units. While he went off script his message was more acceptable to the GOP

Because the Democrats were in power for the last 12 years, people were tired of them. Rumsfeld’s campaign was based entirely on change. Rumsfeld played up his foreign policy credentials, criticizing the inability of the Bentsen administration to properly handle the crisis in Eastern Europe (Gorbachev was removed from power by hardliners, and Soviet troops were crushing rebellions in Eastern Europe), while Harkin said that you couldn’t trust Rumsfeld, and that because there is a crisis in Eastern Europe, you can’t trust new leadership.

The election was a close race from start to finish, though Tom Harkin relied on his Union support to carry him to victory in 1992. But at the same time, Rumsfeld was leading in the South and the Mountain states, which have a lot of electoral votes. Rumsfeld won narrowly nationally, and he won narrowly in Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine. Those three states were the most Republican states since the GOP was founded in 1854. This led some pundits to claim that the GOP was losing their former safe states.

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1996

Donald Rumsfeld/Newt Gingrich (Republican), 367 Electoral votes, 53.9% of the Popular vote
Bill Clinton/Bob Kerrey (Democratic), 171 Electoral votes, 44.6% of the Popular vote

Domestically, Rumsfeld’s 1st term was one of peace and prosperity. While the Democratic congress did their best to block Rumsfeld’s more conservative legislation, all it did was make the Democrats more and more unpopular.

Internationally, the Soviet Union finally collapsed in 1995, marking the end of the cold war. Alongside that, Saddam Hussein’s forces were expelled from Kuwait. Those two foreign policy successes made Rumsfeld’s approval rating to reach as high as 93%

The successes of 1995 led to many Democrats, such as Dick Gephardt, Al Gore, Richard Stallings and Larry Agran decline running in 1996. This led to a Democrat field full of unknowns: Governor Clinton of Arkansas, Senator Tsongas of Massachusetts, Governor Bob Bullock of Texas and Senator Paul Wellstone of Minnesota

Wellstone’s leftism made him be attacked as a “New McGovern”. Bob Bullock said memorably at a debate that “If Wellstone is nominated, we might as well just prepare ourselves for Rumsfeld’s second term”. Bullock, despite that moment, only managed to win his home state of Texas and Oklahoma.

Bill Clinton had a lot of scandals, most notably his rumored affairs he had while Arkansas Governor. He came to address this in a live interview with 60 Minutes, with Hillary at his side. A lamp fell down during the interview. Hillary and Bill both leaped from their chairs and hugged each other in order to make sure the lamp doesn’t fall on them. The moment was caught on camera. After the interview, no one questioned Clinton’s love for his wife

Bill Clinton sweeped the primaries. He only lost Minnesota, Washington, Vermont and South Dakota  to Wellstone, and he lost Massachusetts to Tsongas. A minor controversy occurred as Bob Casey was denied a speaking slot at the 1996 DNC. Casey said this was due to his pro-life views, while the Democratic National Committee said that they didn’t want a repeat of 1992. The speeches of notable pro-life Democrats such as Senator Howell Heflin of Alabama and Governor Zell Miller of Georgia made people not believe in Casey’s claim that the Democrats don’t want a pro lifer at their convention.

1996 was a close race. Rumsfeld attacked not only Bill Clinton, but the Democratic congress, and urged Americans to “vote them out” come November. Newt Gingrich attacked Bill Clinton in the sense that Clinton was a “Phony Moderate” and that he was “No different then Wellstone, McGovern, Carter and Bentsen”, a claim that was repeated by many others later on, including Pat Buchanan.

Bill Clinton, in the meantime, said that Rumsfeld’s tax cuts “only benefited Wall Street fat cats, not you” and bought up Newt Gingrich’s infidelity time to time. Bob Kerrey, Clinton’s running mate, attacked Newt Gingrich’s socially conservative views, saying that “Do you want Newt Gingrich in your bedroom?”

But every campaign must have a positive side. Rumsfeld pointed out the foreign policy successes in 1995, and the prosperity of his first term. Bill Clinton’s southern accent made him poll better in the South then Harkin did, he also was leading in Arkansas the whole time. Bill Clinton also managed to connect with the youth vote.

Bill Clinton would have a blunder in september, when he tried to play Heartbreak Hotel on the saxophone, but he messed up time to time. The mistakes were noted by comedians for a week before everyone forgot about it

An october surprise occurred on October 18th, 1996, when information was revealed that Bill Clinton dodged the draft. Clinton’s team was in damage control. Bill Clinton tried to water the fire for a bit, but it was too late. Rumsfeld began to lead in the polls after that, and he never looked back.

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2000

Newt Gingrich/Olympia Snowe (Republican), 282 Electoral votes, 50.6% of the Popular vote
Howard Dean/Al Gore (Democratic), 256 Electoral votes, 48.6% of the popular vote

Rumsfeld’s second term was largely uneventful domestically. Even internationally the only thing he did was intervene in Bosnia by bombing Serbia, but that was it. The Defense of Marriage act was passed by the Republican congress (which was elected in 1996) by a vote of 230-205 (8 Democrats voted for it, while 1 Republican voted against it) in the house, and in the senate, it was passed by a vote of 50-50 (Gingrich broke the tie by voting for it)[1]. The 1998 Senate and House elections bought congress back into Democratic hands

The 2000 primaries were largely uneventful. Newt Gingrich sweeped all 50 states, with his only challengers being Pat Buchanan and Jim Jeffords. Howard Dean managed to put himself as the frontrunner after the first two debates, with his only challengers (Al Gore, Bill Bradley and Zell Miller) winning their home states. Howard Dean chose Al Gore at the convention, and for the first time since 1964, a Democrat may win Vermont.

Newt Gingrich was known for being a Conservative, which didn’t sit well with many moderate Republicans. To bridge the gap, Gingrich chose Maine Senator Olympia Snowe. This made Snowe the first woman to be on a major party ticket

The race was a dead heat from then on, with Howard Dean and Newt Gingrich trading leads in the polls. Newt Gingrich always had the infidelity claim to worry about, but he had hoped the American people remembered the prosperity of the Rumsfeld administration.

After an enthusiastic rally in Des Moines, Iowa, on October, Howard Dean did an unusual scream. The scream would be covered by the media until they got bored. But the damage was done, and Dean lost narrowly



[1]=DOMA was proposed later than OTL

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2004

Dick Gephardt/Joe Biden (Democratic), 321 Electoral votes, 51.3% of the Popular vote
Newt Gingrich/Olympia Snowe (Republican), 217 Electoral votes, 48.1% of the Popular vote

On April 16th, 2001, a North Korean ship was sunk by South Korea. While it was not ordered by the South Korean military, North Korea thought otherwise. A day later, North Korean troops attacked South Korea

North Korea had hoped that South Korea would be caught off guard, and that they could push the South into a corner like they did in the first Korean war, their advance was stopped at Seoul. A bloody battle occurred there as South Korean troops put up a tough defense. As the battle raged on, Newt Gingrich called on congress for permission to declare war on North Korea. Congress gave him permission, and on April 30th, 2001, the United States declared war on North Korea

 As American troops were fighting in Korea, it gave the Gingrich administration a high approval rating. However, the war took a toll on the economy. Even as the war ended in July 18th, 2001, the referendum on Quebec Independence, which succeeded two days later, made the dow fall by 500 points.

Of course, as the 2004 campaign was starting, the main issue was the economy. Dick Gephardt had won the Democratic primaries, but it was a tough fight with Al Gore and Jerry Brown. Gephardt chose Joe Biden as his running mate

Newt Gingrich and Olympia Snowe kept talking about how the war was won in Korea, while Dick Gephardt and Joe Biden were talking about how the economy was going down, and that his inability to stop Quebec independence showed that he was weak on international affairs. Dick Gephardt also played up the infidelity card harder then Dean did. The debates were a win for Gephardt, though Gingrich won the last debate.

In the end, Dick Gephardt won narrowly, being the first Democratic president since Lloyd Bentsen

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2008

Dick Gephardt/Joe Biden (Democratic), 435 Electoral votes, 49.9% of the popular vote
Olympia Snowe/Fred Thompson (Republican), 77 Electoral votes, 30.0% of the popular vote
Virgil Goode/Tom Tancredo (Constitution), 26 Electoral votes, 19.7% of the popular vote

The Gephardt administration had to deal with the 3/23 attacks of 2005. The 3/23 attacks were a series of bombings in New York, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Miami, the Panama Canal and Boston. It was found out that the bombings were perpetrated by anti-US left wing radicals from Central America, mostly Panama. President Gephardt saw a surge of support, and declared a “War on Terror” and a week later, US troops landed in Panama. However, the left wing radicals were stronger than expected.

At the same time, Venezuela was funding the left wing radicals, but it would not be known until a Venezuelan defector gave the information to the US government. The information caused a media frenzy, and the American people wanted war with Venezuela. On January 23rd, 2006, the United states declared war on Venezuela. On February 2nd, US troops entered Venezuela. However, as the Panamanian radicals were losing the battle, Venezuela put up a tough fight. That, and the economy was going south. Gephardt’s popularity was decreasing.

Those factors would had led to a half-easy election for the Republicans. Half-easy, because the “Rally around the flag” effect would have led the Democrats to another four years.

However, the evangelical governor of Virginia, and former Democrat, Virgil Goode, had entered the race. A week later, Olympia Snowe did the same. Snowe should have sweeped the nomination, but Goode turned out to be a tough opponent. After Goode swept the South (except for Texas, which went to it’s governor, David Dewhurst) and taking the plains and mountain states, no candidate got the majority of delegates. Goode had won the popular vote, but it was by 1% (Snowe: 37.1%, Goode: 38.1%, Dewhurst: 20.3%). After 3 inconclusive ballots, Dewhurst gave his delegates to Snowe, giving her the majority. Goode delegates was mad. Olympia Snowe was a pro-choice Republican, and was chosen by Gingrich to placate the moderates. A walkout occurred after the fourth ballot. Goode won the Constitution party nomination, and chose Colorado’s 6th district Representative Tom Tancredo as his running mate. Goode got an unusual high amount of support for a 3rd party, and even appeared at the debates.

The Democrats had a smoother primary race. Left wing anti-war congressman Dennis Kucinich challenged Gephardt, but won nothing. Kucinich never endorsed Gephardt.

The election was a Gephardt win from start to finish. Many Republicans stayed him, not liking the pro-choice Snowe, but thought that Goode was too radical. Some Republicans thought they couldn’t win, so why vote?

Dick Gephardt was given a second term, and now it was time to finish the war.

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2012

Joe Biden/Kathleen Sebelius (Democratic), 276 Electoral votes, 44.5% of the Popular vote
Lindsey Graham/Mitt Romney (Republican), 259 Electoral votes, 44.8% of the Popular vote
Dennis Kucinich/Bernie Sanders (Peace), 3 Electoral votes, 10.5% of the Popular vote

The Panamanian rebels were finally defeated in 2010, but the Venezuelan war dragged on and on. At the same time, the economy was dipping into a recession. These factors led to the GOP winning the House and Senate in 2010.

But at the same time, the Democratic party faced a split. A split which lasted all the way to 2012. Dennis Kucinich formed his own political party, the Peace Party, and became their first (and only, as it dissolved in 2013) nominee. At first, Kucinich had no running mate, but thankfully the party was formed as the Democratic convention about to begin, and Vice President Biden won the primaries against Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders vowed to take the fight all the way to the convention, and when he lost, Bernie Sanders didn’t endorse Joe Biden. Later on, he accepted Kucinich’s offer to be his running mate.

For most of the time, Graham/Romney led in the polls, the inconclusiveness of the Venezuelan war had Biden being 2nd place. This was the first election in which the number of candidates that appeared in the presidential debate were not the same. For example: In an ordinary election year every debate would have had 2 candidates, but in 1984 and 2008, every debate had three candidates. Because Kucinich didn’t poll 15%, he didn’t get into the first debate (Note that the 15% rule was put in place in 1985, he failed to reach the threshold again during the second debate, but he received entry into the third. As election day was approaching, Biden was set to lose. But the October surprise came in the form of good news from the battle field, as American troops have captured the Venezuelan president. This led to a surge of support for Biden, and Kucinich’s support dropped overnight.

Biden won Pennsylvania and Missouri. However, because they were so close, an automatic recount occurred. The recounts, however, stopped after the court ruled 5-4 in Biden v Graham to stop the recounts. Joe Biden became the 45th President, even though Graham won the popular vote

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Thoughts?

[America Needs R'hllor]

Very interesting. Enjoyed the read.

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Very interesting. Enjoyed the read.

Actually, it's not done

2020 is the last election

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2016

Pete Olson/Charlie Baker (Republican), 377 Electoral votes, 53.9% of the Popular vote
Joe Biden/Kathleen Sebelius (Democratic), 161 Electoral votes, 45.0% of the Popular vote

While the War on Terror was seen as mostly finished by the time the 2016 campaign began, it really didn’t fix the problem. New radical groups were beginning to form around Central America and Venezuela

While the full effects of this had yet to be seen, the effects of the economy going down south since 2007 happened, as a recession started.

With the Biden administration unpopular, many Republicans threw their hat into the ring. Bernie Sanders ran against Biden in the primaries, but died after a botched hernia surgery, December 1st, 2015.

The Republicans had a field of 17 candidates, all striving for the nomination. But out of the divided field came Texas Governor Pete Olson. Olson, a Republican firebrand, alienated moderates. Pete Olson chose Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker as his running mate. Baker was one of the few Republicans to endorse both Same Sex Marriage and Abortion. While this brought up Snowe comparisons, evangelicals were fine with the socially conservative Olson. Besides, Baker can’t influence politics that much, right?

Joe Biden was losing in the polls from start to finish. Olson brung up the 2012 election and the recession whenever he could. Biden, in the meantime, pointed out the end of the Venezuelan war and the fact that he could fix the recession. Joe Biden also had a penchant for gaffes, which hurt him throughout the campaign.

Olson, as expected, won in a landslide. Now, could Olson fix the economy, or should the people have listened to President Biden?

2020

Pete Olson/Charlie Baker (Republican), 301 Electoral votes, 50.9% of the popular vote
Chris Murphy/Claire McCaskill (Democratic), 237 Electoral votes, 48.1% of the popular vote

Olson reversed the Gephardt/Biden economic policy, by reducing spending and cutting taxes. The recession began to end, and Olson’s popularity reached new heights. However, the 2018 midterms were a landslide for the Democrats. That was caused due to low GOP turnout. It also didn’t help that the US-supported Venezuelan government began to collapse as communist militias began committing acts of terrorism across the country.

On January 23rd, 2019, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Venezuela and the Americas, or the PFLVA shot the President of Venezuela and the US ambassador to Venezuela. The PFLVA was formed in 2011, but never managed to do anything worthy of note. However, eight years gave them enough time to recruit and train their soldiers. The PFLVA’s goal? Unify the America’s under one, communist government, with its capital in Caracas

As the PFLVA began to increase in size, it became a serious threat to peace in Venezuela. PFLVA troops began to capture oil fields and villages in Southern Venezuela. Soon, the PFLVA became so powerful that they decided to launch an attack on a country that has attacked theirs: The United States

On August 19th, 2019, a hotel in Phoenix, Arizona was firebombed, killing 182 people. This made Americans worried: Could their city be next?

Anti-Latino sentiment increased following that, immigration hawks, such as Louie Gohmert, Jeff Sessions and Steve Stockman called for a complete shutdown of immigration from Latin America, and to be safe, Brazil

President Olson tried his best to placate the far-right of the GOP, but it was too late. Steve Stockman soon announced a primary challenge against Olson.

Following Stockman’s announcement, President Olson called on congress to approve sending troops to Venezuela. Congress voted against another Venezuelan war, albeit narrowly. This would cause congress’s approval rating to fall.

The PFLVA would launch more attacks on the US later on. On December 18, 2019, they attacked a restaurant in Seattle, on March 12th, 2020, they attacked a music concert in Detroit. Stockman would win Washington, Arizona and Michigan in Super Tuesday III, which meant that he won 3 out of 5 of the states that held a vote (The other states were Utah and Idaho, which went to Olson), which was an embarrassment to the Olson administration. Olson again called for a vote on another Venezuelan war on March 19th. This time, it passed. Olson would win the rest of the primaries later on

The Democrats nominated Chris Murphy and Claire McCaskill. Murphy had the youth vote and the minority vote, which gave him a victory over Joe Manchin and Sherrod Brown

While the war may have given Olson a landslide victory, perhaps bigger then the one he got in 2016, he didn’t. The PFLVA was stronger than expected, and the US found itself losing at times. This led to Chris Murphy call for “New leadership” and that Olson is incompetent in handling the war, and that he would surround himself “With people that know what they’re talking about”. A lot of people agreed with that sentiment, and Murphy found himself leading in some polls, even polls taken a week before election day.

However, on October 28th, the United States air force bombed a compound which had a lot of PFLVA higher ups, and maybe the leader. Olson rebounded and began to lead by 6 points afterwards, but once it was found that the leader was alive, the race became close once more.

Olson won a second term, narrowly. The GOP would win back the senate and narrowed the Democrats house majority. Olson now has to deal with defeating the PFLVA.

THE END

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Since the TL has ended, I have a question: What did y'all think of it?

[NeverAgain]

Very fascinating. I would pay for another aimilar one. I love the format. If you were to do another one, my only request would be a bit more policy analysis.