teens live stream their torturing of bound and gagged trump supporter

[EnglishPete]

Nowhere in the article does it say he was a Trump supporter. Nice try though.

Why would it matter, at all, if he's a Trump supporter or not.  It's actually a little worse if he's NOT a Trump supporter.

Because it proves these kids are just some sociopaths with too much free time, not people with a real agenda.

Well he was visibly white. Maybe their agenda is that they have a hatred of white people. Had you considered that possibility?

[EnglishPete]

You know, some people are just violent and not politically motivated. So far it seems that there is no evidence to support the idea that the victim is a Trump supporter. Had this not been somehow linked to Trump, no one here would even be talking about it. It's not okay to beat people up for any reason.

Did you listen to anything they said on the video?  I can't imagine you did.  There aren't many white people around those parts.. they didn't just pick this guy at random.

I have not seen any evidence that this person is a Trump supporter. Trump ain't the victim here, the person beaten up is.

Uh... yeah, duh.  No one has said otherwise.  Doesn't matter if the guy was a Trump supporter.  If 4 KKK members did this to a black guy and talked about Obama, you wouldnt be asking or caring if the guy was an Obama supporter.

If four white people did this did this to a mentally disabled black person saying " black people  Obama" the media wouldn't be hesitating over calling it a hate crime and neither would the Chicago police. There would be wall to wall coverage of this 'terrible hate crime' and what it tells us about Trump's America.

The liberal media (and liberal politicians and academia) are so obsessed with the idea that hate crimes are something primarily done by white people to non white people that they will get themselves worked up into  lather about case after case of what turn out to be hoax hate crimes.

When video occasionally emerges of actual hate crimes taking place white people are usually the victims not the perpetrators. However these cases are given far less prominence in the liberal media because that would upset the narrative that they (and liberal politicians and academics) are trying to sell.

[EnglishPete]

Look these kids are monstrous sociopaths. That's not in dispute. What's also disgusting is Trump supporters trying to cite this as proof of their political oppression.

I highly doubt these people were sociopaths.  You keep throwing that term around like it means something different than what it does.  And you're kind of justifying their actions in doing so.  "Oh, they were sociopaths so while wrong and punishable... the root causes were individual and pathological"

Unlikely.

There is a chance it may be gang related.  But it was clearly racially and politically motivated... and its root cause is hate.

I have to disagree with you there. A group of people are violent, sadistic, show a total lack of empathy and an inability to foresee the consequences of their actions. That kind of fits for sociopathic behaviour. I don't think that justifies it at all the behaviour. Sociopaths are more than capable of hate indeed are very much likely to show it.