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« on: January 05, 2017, 12:14:51 AM »
« edited: January 05, 2017, 10:04:28 AM by Runeghost »

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http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2017/01/04/four-people-in-custody-after-live-streaming-the-kidnap-and-torture-of-a-purported-trump-supporter-n2267307

The video is online if you want to watch it but it is disturbing.

There are other reports that the man/kid is mentally disabled.

(Adding in OP's quote to make it clear this post was a response to him.)

Why do you find it disturbing?

Your candidate, now the president-elect, publicly stated people that murdering women and children of their enemies was a fine and worthy thing. And your party supported him afterwards.

This is the world you wanted.
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2017, 12:51:20 AM »

You know, some people are just violent and not politically motivated. So far it seems that there is no evidence to support the idea that the victim is a Trump supporter. Had this not been somehow linked to Trump, no one here would even be talking about it. It's not okay to beat people up for any reason.

Did you listen to anything they said on the video?  I can't imagine you did.  There aren't many white people around those parts.. they didn't just pick this guy at random.

I have not seen any evidence that this person is a Trump supporter. Trump ain't the victim here, the person beaten up is.

Uh... yeah, duh.  No one has said otherwise.  Doesn't matter if the guy was a Trump supporter.  If 4 KKK members did this to a black guy and talked about Obama, you wouldnt be asking or caring if the guy was an Obama supporter.

Why would it really matter? There's no need to politicize everything. We can talk all the hypothetical scenarios in the world, but it doesn't change the fact that a political angle doesn't make this crime more or less worse.

   I agree that the crime is reprehensible regardless, but it is noteworthy that the attackers themselves politicized this first.

No.

You don't get to "agree" this is reprehensible. Your party supported and continues to support a candidate and president-elect who has publicly supported sexual assault, torture, and murder of women and children.

This is the world you wanted.
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2017, 10:25:06 AM »

Good grief the hacks in this thread. A guy gets tortured and the response is 'tu quoque'?! Get a grip you ignorant fools.

Agreed. These people are just vile scum.

This is all over Chicago network news.

The responses in this thread are disgusting.  You people need to snap out of it.

This action is horrific and if it was racially or politically motivated, should be treated as a hate crime with especially harsh consequences.

Think about it.  They kidnapped, bound and gagged a man, and proceeded to torture him on Facebook live with what appears to be a political and racial motive.  And it is being reported that the victim was mentally disabled. WHAT.  THE.  FÜCK.
This is the only right response one can possibly give, and it saddens me that there are so many hacks in this thread trying to downplay how bad this is. Disgusting.

Oh and how is this not political? I mean I read Foucaulf's theory, but even in that case they clearly made it seem like a politically/racially motivated crime to the victim and it should be treated as such.

^^^

Stop acting surprised.

"Trump on Torture: 'We Have to Beat the Savages'"
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/trump-torture-we-have-beat-savages

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You support this guy, and now you're upset that people are doing horrible things? To mentally disabled people?

This is what you wanted.

Vile scum is an accurate description, but it applies equally to these criminals as to Trump and those who are supporting him and his deplorable ideas.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2017, 12:52:25 PM »

Look these kids are monstrous sociopaths. That's not in dispute. What's also disgusting is Trump supporters trying to cite this as proof of their political oppression.

I do not attribute this disgusting act to liberals as a whole. They are individuals who committed a reprehensible racial/political motivated attack. (I DO think the media is responsible for this kind of environment giving their grossly twisted reporting on any racial event that occurred in the last few years.)

But as for Trump supporters being politically oppressed...

Considering that liberals completely dominate the media in a nation where conservatives outnumber liberals nearly 2 to 1, I'd say there is a large degree of political oppression going on.

Try being an open Trump supporter in college or any media occupation. You'll receive nothing but endless harassment, mockery, being singled out, and differential treatment.  Ask any business owner what happens if the liberal online mob decides that they don't like who the business is selling to or personal political positions the owner holds. Trump supporters face endless mocking and ridicule anytime they turn on the tv. They're always made fun of. They're always relegated to having sinister motives. They're always the butt of every joke in late night comedies.

They are always targeted and shamed by people who have very real power to destroy others.

There's a reason why the polls were so off in 2016. You see, when liberals claim they are literally 'terrified' of Trump, they do not actually fear him. They hate him, but they are not actually afraid. Fearful people do not shout out in anger and protest/riot. Fearful people do not draw attention to themselves.

Those who are truly afraid stay quiet. They stay hidden. They do not speak out because doing so means a threat to their livelihoods/grades/jobs/business.

These are your hidden Trump voters.

Won't someone please think of the fascists Sad Sad Sad

Like, if you really want to double down on "all supporters of the winning Presidential candidate are fascists who should be treated as unpersons by right-thinking members of society", you are going to be in for an unpleasant few years.

It's going to be an unpleasant few years (at a minimum) no matter what he or I think about the people who support a President-elect who openly advocates murdering women and children, sexual assault, and torture.

As for the fascism... if it waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, eats duck food and poops duck poop, hangs out with and screws other ducks to produce ducklings, I don't think it matters one bit what you prefer to call it.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2017, 07:07:30 PM »

This is all over Chicago network news.

The responses in this thread are disgusting.  You people need to snap out of it.

This action is horrific and if it was racially or politically motivated, should be treated as a hate crime with especially harsh consequences.

Think about it.  They kidnapped, bound and gagged a man, and proceeded to torture him on Facebook live with what appears to be a political and racial motive.  And it is being reported that the victim was mentally disabled. WHAT.  THE.  FÜCK.



Apparently, the perpetrators were high at the time.

Perhaps they were operating under the mistaken delusion that they were police?

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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2017, 09:27:11 AM »
« Edited: January 06, 2017, 09:34:26 AM by Runeghost »

This is all over Chicago network news.

The responses in this thread are disgusting.  You people need to snap out of it.

This action is horrific and if it was racially or politically motivated, should be treated as a hate crime with especially harsh consequences.

Think about it.  They kidnapped, bound and gagged a man, and proceeded to torture him on Facebook live with what appears to be a political and racial motive.  And it is being reported that the victim was mentally disabled. WHAT.  THE.  FÜCK.



Apparently, the perpetrators were high at the time.

Perhaps they were operating under the mistaken delusion that they were police?



What is seriously wrong with you?

I refuse to pretend that certain behaviours are acceptable when done by the in-group to various out-groups, but suddenly reprehensible when done by members of the out-group to the in-group. The idea of torturing and assaulting people is ALWAYS reprehensible, no matter whether the people doing in are wanna-be black gangsters in Chicago, or a rich white con-artist who's running for president of the United States. (Or the police.) The rich white con-artist's supporters really don't seem to like being called on their hypocrisy.
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