VA-GOV 2017: Utter Panic and Doom (General election: Nov 7th)
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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2017, 11:58:19 PM »

Perriello was one of the few Democrats that went down actually fighting in 2010 and never hid his support for President Obama. For that reason alone he has my support.

People will say "That was dumb of him because he ended up losing". But Glenn Nye tried the exact opposite strategy in a more D-friendly district than Perriello's, and got absolutely crushed while Perriello lost by about 3 points.
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« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2017, 12:04:32 AM »

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Win this, Perriello!
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« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2017, 12:06:24 AM »

Periello voted for the Stupak amendment and was endorsed by the NRA, I don't think he will be successful in outflanking Northam on the left. Women's group and gun control orgs will obviously line up behind Ralph.
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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2017, 12:25:55 AM »

Glad to see that this won't just be a coronation for Northam, and I will be hoping for Perriello, though I expect Northam to win. Still, it'll be good for Northam to prove himself in a primary first, before going up in a general election.
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« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2017, 01:00:01 AM »

Perriello was one of the few Democrats that went down actually fighting in 2010 and never hid his support for President Obama. For that reason alone he has my support.

Perriello was brave to do that, I remember how everyone else was running away from Obama that year. I've wondered why he hasn't run for anything else, glad to see he's coming back. This is great news! Perriello 2017.
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« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2017, 01:15:13 AM »

Perriello was one of the few Democrats that went down actually fighting in 2010 and never hid his support for President Obama. For that reason alone he has my support.

Perriello was brave to do that, I remember how everyone else was running away from Obama that year. I've wondered why he hasn't run for anything else, glad to see he's coming back. This is great news! Perriello 2017.

It's not like he vanished off the face of the Earth. He ran CPAC for a while, and replaced Russ Feingold as an envoy to the Congo.
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« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2017, 01:42:07 AM »

Good. A bitter democratic primary can only help Gillespie.
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« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2017, 02:17:44 AM »

Good. A bitter democratic primary can only help Gillespie.

Who says it will be bitter? Also, Trump won probably the most bitter primary of all time, and then won the general in a major upset.
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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2017, 03:05:07 AM »

I first heard about Perriello on the candidate confessional podcast; and he really stood out on there, for the fact that he ran a very principled, and worthy campaign; even thought he lost it's better to lose that way rather than making a complete fool of yourself trying to run away from every position you've held.
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« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2017, 03:56:48 AM »

Hey, anyone remember what happened to the LAST guy who was envoy to the Congo? Ya know, BEFORE Perriello? He came back to run statewide...
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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2017, 07:58:55 AM »

He's in. https://twitter.com/tomperriello/status/816987577676922880
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« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2017, 09:57:04 AM »

Northam aligns more with my own views but Perriello has more long term upside, IMO. Also - it's not like Perriello is some progressive gadfly who can't win outside of a liberal enclave. The guy won a very conservative downstate district and narrowly lost in 2010. He had an A from the NRA after all.

Honestly both these candidates would be good for talking to non base voters. It's just a question of whether rural voters or Hampton Roads voters are more important
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« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2017, 10:19:56 AM »

Ugh. I like Perriello, but Northam has my complete support. I have met Northam multiple times, and he is going to be a great governor. Perriello should most definitely run in 2021 or run for Congress again.

The idea that he is a progressive hero is pretty ridiculous. He has been a great advocate for wonderful programs like ACA and the Stimulus which led to him losing his re-election. But just because of that doesn't mean this race will be one between a Sanders and a Webb. They are really not that dissimilar.

Northam will win this, but I do not under-estimate that Perriello will be a strong challenger.
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« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2017, 10:59:24 AM »

Periello voted for the Stupak amendment and was endorsed by the NRA, I don't think he will be successful in outflanking Northam on the left. Women's group and gun control orgs will obviously line up behind Ralph.

Virginia is a pretty centrist/center-right state, so if you are a progressive, be prepared to be disappointed.

Remember, one of our Senators is Mark Warner. Virginia is nowhere near as progressive as Maryland.

Of course, as a centrist, I have no issue with this. Tongue 
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« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2017, 11:19:16 AM »

Nice to see a contested D primary. There goes the Democrats' cleared field advantage. I still think the Democrats are favored to hold this one, though.
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« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2017, 12:11:20 PM »

Go Perriello! I'm hoping for an upset here in the Dem primary, and it'd be great to see "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" Ralph Northam go down.
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« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2017, 12:16:25 PM »

Nice to see a contested D primary. There goes the Democrats' cleared field advantage. I still think the Democrats are favored to hold this one, though.

Agreed. Republicans winning VA would be quite an upset, to say the least. Lean/Likely D.

An upset from our perspective, sure. But for all we know the Republican could have a solid polling lead in late October.
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« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2017, 12:53:50 PM »

If Perriello wins the governor race this year then I can honestly see his name in the 2020 race. I can't say the same for Northam.
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« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2017, 01:59:10 PM »

Go Perriello! I'm hoping for an upset here in the Dem primary, and it'd be great to see "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" Ralph Northam go down.
What kind of fiscal conservative is Ralph Northam? Is he really that conservative on fiscal issues, or is he just conservative by Democratic standards? I'd assume the latter.
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« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2017, 02:00:35 PM »

Go Perriello! I'm hoping for an upset here in the Dem primary, and it'd be great to see "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" Ralph Northam go down.
What kind of fiscal conservative is Ralph Northam? Is he really that conservative on fiscal issues, or is he just conservative by Democratic standards? I'd assume the latter.

Fiscal conservative is a meaningless buzzword that doesn't count for anything, so it doesn't really matter.
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« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2017, 04:21:38 PM »

I like Ralph Northam and Tom Perriello. Both would be good candidates. Northam would be a good Cabinet secretary in a future Democratic administration.
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« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2017, 04:25:10 PM »

Go Perriello! I'm hoping for an upset here in the Dem primary, and it'd be great to see "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" Ralph Northam go down.
What kind of fiscal conservative is Ralph Northam? Is he really that conservative on fiscal issues, or is he just conservative by Democratic standards? I'd assume the latter.

I hate the term "fiscal conservative" in general: It's so vague.

I just assume that Northam is a conservative democrat.
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« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2017, 05:29:26 PM »

I feel like being anti-choice outside of the deep South is a non starter in most Dem primaries, it is litmus test for a lot of people. Beyond voting for ACA & Cap & trade I am not really not sure what makes Perriello some sort of progressive champion akin to Bernie.
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« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2017, 05:38:30 PM »

I've always liked Perriello, but I'll be volunteering for Northam. 

Change your avatar then.
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« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2017, 05:44:45 PM »

I've always liked Perriello, but I'll be volunteering for Northam. 

Change your avatar then.

To what? Miles is a real LA Dem. Tongue
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