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« on: January 04, 2017, 08:54:28 PM »

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/155415-trump-probably-run-as-independent-if-i-cant-win-gop-nod

For all those who want to say that any republican could've won this year, I give you this. This was a very bull moose/perot-like year, not necessarily a republican one, Bush would've won in '92 if it wasn't for Perot's character assassination attacks giving way to Clinton. Trump likewise specifically targeted the characters of all his main opponents, see how they went down after Trump's attacks. Cruz in particular, is a perfect example, was +1 v. Hillary in Mar 1, and collapsed to -10 on May 1.

Trump's plan was that if he lost the primary, he'd call the process rigged and 'unfair', tear down his main rival(s) and run independent.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-refuses-rule-third-party-run-article-1.2587077

He was already signalling 'unfair treatment' when the delegate selection process was underway:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/276054-trump-slams-rnc-chairman-calls-2016-process-a-disgrace

This is what he was going to do.

This was not a republican year, this was a 1912/1992 type year.

Perot spent 66 mil in his 92 run, inflation adjusted that comes to ~ 100mil, which Trump was planning to spend (Trump ended up spending 66 mil anyway). He has the same net worth as Perot. Perot's main advantage was free media.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/24/how-donald-trump-could-fall-into-the-ross-perot-trap.html

Most Trump supporters were saying from early on that they would go with him to a third party.


Now some will say, he would be afraid of losing? No, Trump didn't think he'd win the primary in the first place, he thought Jeb would win (like everyone else who ran did seeing as how none of them other than cruz who was specifically planning for a contested convention in case Jeb got less than 1237 had any serious campaign infrastructure) and just wanted to place second to him as a protest candidate.

http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

It would be an ego-trip for him to see how many votes he could win as an independent candidate alone, getting a high amount would be enough to boost his ego. For those states with loser-laws, he could just put his son's name, Trump Jr. on the ballot.

2016 was basically what would've happened had Teddy or Perot won the republican nominations in the years they ran in.
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2017, 12:12:14 AM »

Perot ran as a centrist (on some issues at least).  Trump ran to the right of the GOP on many issues.
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2017, 03:07:21 AM »

Perot ran as a centrist (on some issues at least).  Trump ran to the right of the GOP on many issues.

Immigration. That's all. He was to the left of GOP orthodoxy, at least rhetorically, on virtually everything else.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2017, 05:56:03 AM »

Breaking the promise he made that he wouldn't run if he wasn't nominated is not surprising at all.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2017, 03:19:45 PM »

Perot ran as a centrist (on some issues at least).  Trump ran to the right of the GOP on many issues.

Immigration. That's all. He was to the left of GOP orthodoxy, at least rhetorically, on virtually everything else.

Immigration and national security.  And these are major issues for Republican voters.
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2017, 03:32:19 PM »

Perot ran as a centrist (on some issues at least).  Trump ran to the right of the GOP on many issues.

Immigration. That's all. He was to the left of GOP orthodoxy, at least rhetorically, on virtually everything else.

Immigration and national security.  And these are major issues for Republican voters.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2017, 05:16:22 PM »

Perot ran as a centrist (on some issues at least).  Trump ran to the right of the GOP on many issues.

Immigration. That's all. He was to the left of GOP orthodoxy, at least rhetorically, on virtually everything else.

Immigration and national security.  And these are major issues for Republican voters.
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That too.  Good point.
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2017, 07:13:10 AM »

Perot ran as a centrist (on some issues at least).  Trump ran to the right of the GOP on many issues.

Immigration. That's all. He was to the left of GOP orthodoxy, at least rhetorically, on virtually everything else.

Immigration and national security.  And these are major issues for Republican voters.

Trump did not run to the right of other Republican in substance so much as he did on emphasis of these issues. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2017, 07:15:51 AM »

Perot ran as a centrist (on some issues at least).  Trump ran to the right of the GOP on many issues.

Immigration. That's all. He was to the left of GOP orthodoxy, at least rhetorically, on virtually everything else.

Immigration and national security.  And these are major issues for Republican voters.

Trump did not run to the right of other Republican in substance so much as he did on emphasis of these issues. 

Exactly! In the past he was in favor of abortion and was against the Second Amendment.

And now he wants to invest in infrastructure, which means more spending and more spending is not tolerated by conservative Republicans.
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2017, 09:35:28 AM »

Perot ran as a centrist (on some issues at least).  Trump ran to the right of the GOP on many issues.

Immigration. That's all. He was to the left of GOP orthodoxy, at least rhetorically, on virtually everything else.

Immigration and national security.  And these are major issues for Republican voters.

Trump did not run to the right of other Republican in substance so much as he did on emphasis of these issues. 

Exactly! In the past he was in favor of abortion and was against the Second Amendment.

And now he wants to invest in infrastructure, which means more spending and more spending is not tolerated by conservative Republicans.

The only republican that proposed any plan close to a balanced budget was Rand Paul, spending has always been tolerated. The last republican president to actually balance the budget was Eisenhower, who understood that in order to pay for spending, you needed requisite taxation.
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