Opinion of Sun Yat Sen

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Founder of KMT. An ff in theory, though his tactical decisions later in life left a mixed legacy.

[The Mikado]

His heart was in the right place, but he wasn't very good at what he was doing.

[Intell]

Definitely FF,, the likes of him should've kept power of Kumoingtang.

[Bigby]

Anyone beats the Maoists.

[Crumpets]

His heart was in the right place, but he wasn't very good at what he was doing.

Pretty much. In other words, he would have found a natural home in the Socialist Party of France.

[Shameless Lefty Hack]

I mean, a hell of a lot better than Chiang Kai Shek.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

The Chinese Mazzini.

[peterthlee]

Massive FF for toppling the imperial regime. Though China is still autocratic now, the power is not transferred under heredity.
I'm proud to be his junior in the University of Hong Kong Faculty of Medicine.

[Person Man]

How is he isn't even if his ultimate accomplishment was the of the Qing Dynasty?
I guess a lot people died because of his legacy, but he didn't know that would happen. His legacy was also keeping China an independent country.

[jaichind]

HP and that is speaking as a KMT supporter.  I was opposed to the KMT of the 1900s and 1920s where I would take the side of the Ching Dynasty and Beiyang government.  I only switched over to the KMT in the 1930s once it moved to the Right.  I still view the overthrow of the Ching dynasty as a tragic mistake that we are still recovering from. 

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Lean FF for his attempt to bring democracy to China.

[SATW]

Lean FF for his attempt to bring democracy to China.

[Person Man]

HP and that is speaking as a KMT supporter.  I was opposed to the KMT of the 1900s and 1920s where I would take the side of the Ching Dynasty and Beiyang government.  I only switched over to the KMT in the 1930s once it moved to the Right.  I still view the overthrow of the Ching dynasty as a tragic mistake that we are still recovering from.  

That makes you at least 130?
What's your take on the Eunuch Bureaucracy?
Are you a vampire, tortoise, or some eunuch sorceror from the Chings?

[Antonio the Sixth]

HP and that is speaking as a KMT supporter.  I was opposed to the KMT of the 1900s and 1920s where I would take the side of the Ching Dynasty and Beiyang government.  I only switched over to the KMT in the 1930s once it moved to the Right.  I still view the overthrow of the Ching dynasty as a tragic mistake that we are still recovering from. 

That makes you at least 130?
What's your take on the Eunuch Bureaucracy?
Are you a vampire, tortoise, or some eunuch sorceror from the Chings?

Is there some ancient Chinese polytheistic religion that has a God personifying greed and selfishness? That would explain so much.

[jaichind]

HP and that is speaking as a KMT supporter.  I was opposed to the KMT of the 1900s and 1920s where I would take the side of the Ching Dynasty and Beiyang government.  I only switched over to the KMT in the 1930s once it moved to the Right.  I still view the overthrow of the Ching dynasty as a tragic mistake that we are still recovering from.  

That makes you at least 130?
What's your take on the Eunuch Bureaucracy?
Are you a vampire, tortoise, or some eunuch sorceror from the Chings?

I think one is allowed to have a position on a party or person and have that position change over time as that party or person evolve even if one is not alive at that time.

Eunuchs were not that powerful at all in the Ching and there were not even that many of them. It was the late Ming that their power went too far.

[Derpist]

HP in effect. The overthrow of the Empire was a grievous mistake. And the KMT has never been a force for good.

[Derpist]

HP and that is speaking as a KMT supporter.  I was opposed to the KMT of the 1900s and 1920s where I would take the side of the Ching Dynasty and Beiyang government.  I only switched over to the KMT in the 1930s once it moved to the Right.  I still view the overthrow of the Ching dynasty as a tragic mistake that we are still recovering from.  

That makes you at least 130?
What's your take on the Eunuch Bureaucracy?
Are you a vampire, tortoise, or some eunuch sorceror from the Chings?

I'm not sure if this is racist or almost-racist.

To analyze that, I imagine what people would say if in response to "Hallie Selassie was awesome!!!" someone immediately referenced crude tribal African stereotypes.

[jaichind]

Is there some ancient Chinese polytheistic religion that has a God personifying greed and selfishness? That would explain so much.

You are thinking perhaps of Caishen (財神) or "God of Wealth"



A lot of my relatives back on Taiwan Province  are business owners and all of them have alters to   Caishen at their homes.  Of course they focused on worship of Caishen more for good fortune on business management.  Caishen is a lot more popular in Hoklo (Taiwan Province and Fujian Province) Hakka (significant part of SE Asia overseas Chinese) and Cantonese (Guangdong Province) subcultures.

I am a good deal more Westernized and if anything my god if I had any would be someone like Ann Rand.