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Question: For each of the following moral issues, select whether you find it Acceptable (A) or Unacceptable (U)
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A - Gay or lesbian relations
 
#2
U - Gay or lesbian relations
 
#3
A - Having a baby outside of marriage
 
#4
U - Having a baby outside of marriage
 
#5
A - Sex between an unmarried man and woman
 
#6
U - Sex between an unmarried man and woman
 
#7
A - Divorce
 
#8
U - Divorce
 
#9
A - Medical research using stem cells from human embryos
 
#10
U - Medical research using stem cells obtained from human embryos
 
#11
A - Polygamy
 
#12
U - Polygamy
 
#13
A - Cloning humans
 
#14
U - Cloning humans
 
#15
A - Doctor-assisted suicide
 
#16
U - Doctor-assisted suicide
 
#17
A - Suicide
 
#18
U - Suicide
 
#19
A - Gambling
 
#20
U - Gambling
 
#21
A - Abortion
 
#22
U - Abortion
 
#23
A - Cloning animals
 
#24
U - Cloning animals
 
#25
A - Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur
 
#26
U - Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur
 
#27
A - Married men and women having an affair
 
#28
U - Married men and women having an affair
 
#29
A - The death penalty
 
#30
U - The death penalty
 
#31
A - Medical testing on animals
 
#32
U - Medical testing on animals
 
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« on: January 09, 2017, 04:07:52 PM »

These questions were derived from a Gallup survey from 2015 found here.



My answers:

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2017, 04:13:29 PM »

All acceptable except for the death penalty, having an affair, and the three that involve being mean to animals. Didn't vote on suicide because I don't consider killing oneself to be a morally wrong act, but it would still be strange to call it "acceptable."
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2017, 04:17:15 PM »

Asking if suicide is morally acceptable is an extremely loaded question. Because suicide has no moral angle whatsoever. At its simplest, abortion, cloning, polygamy, murder, etc. all have a base question of morality. Suicide doesn't.
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2017, 04:33:08 PM »

Gay Relations: Very mildly unacceptable
Having a baby outside of marriage: Unacceptable, but far preferable to abortion
Sex outside of marriage: Unacceptable if changed to "a serious relationship"
Divorce: Mildly unacceptable
Embryonic Stem Cell Research: Unacceptable
Polygamy: Unacceptable
Cloning humans: Unacceptable, but no real opinion on it
Gambling: Perfectly acceptable
Abortion: The most morally unacceptable act on this list
Cloning animals: Acceptable
Fur: Acceptable
Affairs: Unacceptable
Death Penalty: Mixed
Medical Testing on Animals: Acceptable
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2017, 04:35:05 PM »
« Edited: January 10, 2017, 12:13:55 PM by Sprouts Farmers Market ✘ »

Gay Relations: Very mildly unacceptable Obviously fine
Having a baby outside of marriage: Unacceptable, but far preferable to abortion
Sex outside of marriage: Unacceptable if changed to "a serious relationship"
Divorce: Mildly unacceptable Not inherently bad, circumstantial
Embryonic Stem Cell Research: Unacceptable
Polygamy: Unacceptable
Cloning humans: Unacceptable, but no real opinion on it
Gambling: Perfectly acceptable
Abortion: The most morally unacceptable act on this list
Cloning animals: Acceptable
Fur: Acceptable
Affairs: Unacceptable
Death Penalty: Mixed VERY BAD
Medical Testing on Animals: Acceptable

Plus, both doctor-assisted and regular suicide acceptable
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2017, 04:50:12 PM »
« Edited: January 09, 2017, 05:11:35 PM by Ebowed »

All acceptable except for the death penalty, having an affair, and the three that involve being mean to animals.

Agreed.  Obviously, there is more nuance to some of these situations.  Gambling can be unethical, but it is the exploitative enabling which is the true culprit.  Suicide can be a very selfish act, but it does not follow that every instance is immoral.  Even adultery could be acceptable in a scenario where the other partner approves of it, but I assume not for the purpose of this poll.

Animal abuse and capital punishment are always immoral.

Fur used to make clothing is stripped from live animals who spend their lives in confinement, and are left to bleed to death.  Experimentation on laboratory animals is a similar exercise in cruelty and acts as an impediment to medical research nearly as often as it aids.  It is wholly unnecessary to test frivolous cosmetics on animals.  As far as medical research is concerned, results from animal testing always need to be corroborated by human subjects before they can be used to produce pharmaceuticals.  This is not to say that some relevant information has not been gleaned from testing on animals, and it puts us in the ambiguous position of utilizing that research while recognizing that it is of increasingly diminishing value.  Hopefully, it will be rendered entirely obsolete soon enough, and perhaps all that will be left will be the tobacco companies, still pumping cigarette smoke into the lungs of dogs in their ruthless effort to cast doubt on the link between tobacco and cancer.

I just think that it's telling that more of us are bothered by a betrayal of our romantic ideals about marriage than we are about the failure of marriage as a structure for sustaining stable families.

I'm not so sure I see it in a romantic light so much as it is a violation of trust, a form of corruption on the personal level.
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2017, 05:30:34 PM »

All acceptable except for the death penalty.
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2017, 05:38:05 PM »

These are more complicated than "acceptable" and "unacceptable"
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2017, 05:48:24 PM »

I voted for unacceptable on having a baby outside marriage, despite being a product of that exact same thing. I feel that way because the effects on the child are just terribly emotionally and often times economically. It is completely unacceptable to do that to a child.
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2017, 06:47:03 PM »

These are more complicated than "acceptable" and "unacceptable"
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2017, 06:59:19 PM »

Gay Relations: Acceptable but I don't think its acceptable or honest to willfully (not because you are afraid) be closeted in either direction.
Having a baby outside of marriage: It is unacceptable if you don't seriously prepare for the child
Sex outside of marriage: I think it's OK. Stuff happens. You get lonely. I think its better to have someone, though.
Divorce: unacceptable unless its because of an affair or domestic abuse.
Embryonic Stem Cell Research: I think its a great thing but if the Universities and Doctors can do without it, then they should do without it.
Polygamy: I'm open to it. I wouldn't choose it for myself.
Cloning humans: I don't see how its this horrible thing but I don't see how it can really help anyone, though. Theoretically, we can use things like SCNT revolutionize health care, drastically improve and prolong living standards and fix the economy.
Gambling: Perfectly acceptable. We live in a Capitalist society. We worship gambling.
Abortion: It really depends. It's not just like getting a gall bladder out but its not this Casey Anthony German fairy tail, either.
Cloning animals: Acceptable
Fur: Acceptable
Affairs: Unacceptable
Death Penalty: Unacceptable
Medical Testing on Animals: See embryos.
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2017, 07:21:02 PM »
« Edited: January 09, 2017, 07:41:54 PM by bagelman »

1. Mundane at this point, opposition though may be morally unacceptable. A

2. There are many factors when unacceptable, but this isn't universally so, so... A

3. Mundane at this point. A

4. Acceptable A

5. Acceptable A

6. eh whatever, fine, acceptable A

7. I would love to have a clone of me walking around, but they would have to solve the issue of clones not living as long as the originals, otherwise it's unacceptable. (A?)

8. Tossup, tilt acceptable A

9. Unlike this option, which I assume is distinct from the above. U

10. Mundane, but still a vice A

11. Mixed, but lean more unacceptable than acceptable, even if not universally so. U

12. non-issue A

13. It's already dead. A

14. VERY UNACCEPTABLE U

15. Acceptable for some crimes A

16. Insert greater good argument here. A
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2017, 07:23:33 PM »

My opinion on most of these issues are more complicated and nuanced than this poll allows, but I voted acceptable to all except suicide and having an affair.
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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2017, 07:24:05 PM »
« Edited: January 09, 2017, 07:46:23 PM by Santander »

Gay Relations: Acceptable
Having a baby outside of marriage: Mostly unacceptable
Sex outside of marriage: Mostly acceptable
Divorce: Mostly acceptable
Embryonic Stem Cell Research: Unacceptable
Polygamy: Unacceptable
Cloning humans: Unacceptable
Doctor-assisted suicide: Extremely unacceptable
Suicide: Unacceptable
Gambling: Virtue
Abortion: Unacceptable for non-Jews
Cloning animals: Moderately unacceptable
Fur: Acceptable
Affairs: No comment, but better than open "marriages"
Death Penalty: Acceptable, but mostly undesirable
Medical Testing on Animals: Mostly acceptable
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2017, 07:43:14 PM »

Gay or lesbian relations: Acceptable

Having a baby outside of marriage: Acceptable, though will cause problems, which should be avoided.

Sex between an unmarried man and woman: Acceptable, though should be kept to be a minimum, or even refrained till marriage. The culture of one-night stands and sex above all else is vile, and unacceptable however.

Divorce: Acceptable, but there is a much too high divorce rate in the western culture, with too much emphasis on "love" and the "perfect person" or whatever leading to high rates of divorce.

Medical research using stem cells from human embryos: Acceptable

Polygamy: Unacceptable, causes problems, emotional trauma, and even cultish like behaviour, along with degradation of a person, especially women. The fact that half of the people thought this kind of relationship is acceptable is god awful.

Cloning Humans: Unacceptable, there is a reason we exist in this world, though the beauty of creation, and cloning humans ruins such a creation of human birth and human creation. Especially when such cloning could lead to godawful problems in the future, this is definitely unacceptable. No-one should vote acceptable.

Doctor-Assisted Suicide: Acceptable, in certain scenarios, though should be avoided.

Suicide:
Unacceptable, the fact that a third of people voted acceptable to this, is what's frightening and awful.

Abortion: Generally Unacceptable, and imdefinetly should definitely be avoided..

Cloning Animals: Unacceptable, the fact that a huge majority voted acceptable is awful.

Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur:
Acceptable, though could see reasons why people vote unacceptable.

Married men and women having an affair: Unacceptable, the fact that 7 people voted acceptable is insanity and awful.

The Death Penalty: Acceptable, though should generally be avoided, though in principle I don't oppose for certain crimes.

Medical testing on animals: Acceptable.



 

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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2017, 08:24:03 PM »

Gay Relations: Acceptable
Having a baby outside of marriage: Mostly unacceptable
Sex outside of marriage: Mostly acceptable
Divorce: Mostly acceptable
Embryonic Stem Cell Research: Unacceptable
Polygamy: Unacceptable
Cloning humans: Unacceptable
Doctor-assisted suicide: Extremely unacceptable
Suicide: Unacceptable
Gambling: Virtue
Abortion: Unacceptable for non-Jews
Cloning animals: Moderately unacceptable
Fur: Acceptable
Affairs: No comment, but better than open "marriages"
Death Penalty: Acceptable, but mostly undesirable
Medical Testing on Animals: Mostly acceptable
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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2017, 08:26:15 PM »

Gay Relations: Acceptable
Having a baby outside of marriage: Mostly unacceptable
Sex outside of marriage: Mostly acceptable
Divorce: Mostly acceptable
Embryonic Stem Cell Research: Unacceptable
Polygamy: Unacceptable
Cloning humans: Unacceptable
Doctor-assisted suicide: Extremely unacceptable
Suicide: Unacceptable
Gambling: Virtue
Abortion: Unacceptable for non-Jews
Cloning animals: Moderately unacceptable
Fur: Acceptable
Affairs: No comment, but better than open "marriages"
Death Penalty: Acceptable, but mostly undesirable
Medical Testing on Animals: Mostly acceptable
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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2017, 08:34:27 PM »

Unacceptable=/=Morally Wrong, right?
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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2017, 08:35:54 PM »

Gay Relations: Acceptable but I don't think its acceptable or honest to willfully (not because you are afraid) be closeted in either direction.
Your lack of empathy for closeted individuals is outstanding!
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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2017, 09:07:28 PM »
« Edited: January 09, 2017, 09:14:02 PM by DavidB. »

A - Gay or lesbian relations
U - Having a baby outside of marriage
A - Sex between an unmarried man and woman
A - Divorce
U - Medical research using stem cells obtained from human embryos
U - Polygamy
U - Cloning humans
Didn't vote, too difficult - Doctor-assisted suicide
Didn't vote, too difficult - Suicide
U - Gambling
U - Abortion (but it's acceptable in the first weeks and -- obviously -- if the mother's health necessitates it)
U - Cloning animals
U - Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur (exception: countries/areas that are really really really cold)
U - Married men and women having an affair
A - The death penalty
A - Medical testing on animals (but would always prefer alternatives if possible, and obviously not acceptable for cosmetics or tobacco or any of that)
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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2017, 09:08:24 PM »


That is not how the vast majority of fur sold is obtained.  There are dedicated facilities that breed and cage animals for their fur, which is removed from the animal while it is still alive.  It is left to bleed to death.
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« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2017, 09:21:09 PM »

Gay Relations: Acceptable
Having a baby outside of marriage: Mostly unacceptable
Sex outside of marriage: Mostly acceptable
Divorce: Mostly acceptable
Embryonic Stem Cell Research: Unacceptable
Polygamy: Unacceptable
Cloning humans: Unacceptable
Doctor-assisted suicide: Extremely unacceptable
Suicide: Unacceptable
Gambling: Virtue
Abortion: Unacceptable for non-Jews
Cloning animals: Moderately unacceptable
Fur: Acceptable
Affairs: No comment, but better than open "marriages"
Death Penalty: Acceptable, but mostly undesirable
Medical Testing on Animals: Mostly acceptable
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Probably because it's acceptable according to Jewish law until 40 days (under certain circumstances, with rabbinical permission) and Santander respects that view.
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« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2017, 09:25:05 PM »

Gay Relations: Acceptable
Having a baby outside of marriage: Mostly unacceptable
Sex outside of marriage: Mostly acceptable
Divorce: Mostly acceptable
Embryonic Stem Cell Research: Unacceptable
Polygamy: Unacceptable
Cloning humans: Unacceptable
Doctor-assisted suicide: Extremely unacceptable
Suicide: Unacceptable
Gambling: Virtue
Abortion: Unacceptable for non-Jews
Cloning animals: Moderately unacceptable
Fur: Acceptable
Affairs: No comment, but better than open "marriages"
Death Penalty: Acceptable, but mostly undesirable
Medical Testing on Animals: Mostly acceptable
What??
Let me clarify - I did not mean that unrestricted abortion was morally acceptable for Jews, I just meant to say that Judaism has important theological distinctions from Christianity regarding abortion that affect the moral acceptability of therapeutic abortions including at least life of the mother, and probably also rape, incest and early-stage abortion. I do not want to impose moral judgement based on Christian theology upon Jews.
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« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2017, 09:29:52 PM »

Regarding the part asking whether I find it acceptable or unacceptable that married men and women have affairs -is this strictly asking within the context of a monogamous relationship in which the other partner has an affair without the other's consent?  Or are you extending this to swinging/polyamory which can be regarded as consensual affairs? 
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« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2017, 09:42:18 PM »

Gay Relations: Acceptable
Having a baby outside of marriage: Mostly unacceptable
Sex outside of marriage: Mostly acceptable
Divorce: Mostly acceptable
Embryonic Stem Cell Research: Unacceptable
Polygamy: Unacceptable
Cloning humans: Unacceptable
Doctor-assisted suicide: Extremely unacceptable
Suicide: Unacceptable
Gambling: Virtue
Abortion: Unacceptable for non-Jews
Cloning animals: Moderately unacceptable
Fur: Acceptable
Affairs: No comment, but better than open "marriages"
Death Penalty: Acceptable, but mostly undesirable
Medical Testing on Animals: Mostly acceptable
What??
Let me clarify - I did not mean that unrestricted abortion was morally acceptable for Jews, I just meant to say that Judaism has important theological distinctions from Christianity regarding abortion that affect the moral acceptability of therapeutic abortions including at least life of the mother, and probably also rape, incest and early-stage abortion. I do not want to impose moral judgement based on Christian theology upon Jews.

Ah, I understand what you mean now. In that case, shouldn't such exceptions be applied to anyone who is non-Christian or not belonging to a religious faith that claims abortion is morally unacceptable? I know most irreligious people find abortion acceptable; as do most Muslims, based on most Islamic scholars' interpretation of the Hadith.
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