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« Reply #100 on: January 11, 2017, 08:40:15 PM »

Both Corker and Romney would be confirmed ~97-0. There was no reason Trump needed to use Tillerson.
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« Reply #101 on: January 11, 2017, 08:40:51 PM »

The worst would be Romney. I oppose Tillerson for his excessive Russophobia. Rohrabacher, who truly understands Putin and has a solid grasp of foreign affairs, would be best.

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« Reply #102 on: January 11, 2017, 09:11:32 PM »

Both Corker and Romney would be confirmed ~97-0. There was no reason Trump needed to use Tillerson.

-Nope. Both would have substantial Democratic opposition and neither has as much experience negotiating with foreign countries as Tillerson. Romney, to my knowledge, doesn't have any such experience at all (except for being a Mormon missionary in France, which is underwhelming), making him an easy Democratic target for this. If we're only going to look at people with carbon-copy views on the issues, it's best to appoint the guy who has the most experience at negotiating and winning overseas.

Obviously, Rohrabacher would be best overall, as he is on record supporting Trump and has broad agreement with his foreign policy views. Tillerson, Corker, and Romney are not in broad agreement with Trump's foreign policy views.
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« Reply #103 on: January 11, 2017, 09:14:25 PM »

The worst would be Romney. I oppose Tillerson for his excessive Russophobia. Rohrabacher, who truly understands Putin and has a solid grasp of foreign affairs, would be best.

Tillerson isn't really Russophobic. He's just criticizing them a bunch so congress doesn't think he's in bed with them because of his comments about Russia when he was with Exxon.
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« Reply #104 on: January 11, 2017, 09:14:42 PM »

Both Corker and Romney would be confirmed ~97-0. There was no reason Trump needed to use Tillerson.

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« Reply #105 on: January 11, 2017, 09:16:52 PM »

Yeah, Tillerson is just trying to compensate for his obvious connections with the Russian government.
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« Reply #106 on: January 11, 2017, 09:21:21 PM »

Both Corker and Romney would be confirmed ~97-0. There was no reason Trump needed to use Tillerson.

-Nope. Both would have substantial Democratic opposition and neither has as much experience negotiating with foreign countries as Tillerson. Romney, to my knowledge, doesn't have any such experience at all (except for being a Mormon missionary in France, which is underwhelming), making him an easy Democratic target for this. If we're only going to look at people with carbon-copy views on the issues, it's best to appoint the guy who has the most experience at negotiating and winning overseas.

Obviously, Rohrabacher would be best overall, as he is on record supporting Trump and has broad agreement with his foreign policy views. Tillerson, Corker, and Romney are not in broad agreement with Trump's foreign policy views.
Do you know how confirmation works or what?

Bob Corker is widely respected across the aisle for his foreign policy experience.
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« Reply #107 on: January 11, 2017, 09:43:03 PM »

Do you know how confirmation works or what?

Bob Corker is widely respected across the aisle for his foreign policy experience.

-Corker would have the easiest time getting confirmed of the known candidates. It is highly doubtful, however, that the Democratic Party would be unified in favor of him. Given that Corker is a Republican, a fairly large group of extreme Democrats (such as Warren, Booker, and Sanders) would no doubt come out to oppose his confirmation, if purely for the anti-Trump signaling value and their general opposition to anything Republican.
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« Reply #108 on: January 12, 2017, 10:11:15 AM »


Both Corker and Romney would relieve me to some extent. I may have some differences with them on various issues, but they’re decent guys who understand the world. For sure, Tillerson is a smart guy. But being a successful businessman doesn’t translate into a good Secretary of State. I am also worried about his conflicts of interest with his former employer and his closeness to Russia. The best GOP choice would be Jon Huntsman, but the chance that is happening is practically zero. The orange clown isn’t smart enough to pick this dude.
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« Reply #109 on: January 12, 2017, 11:17:03 AM »

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« Reply #110 on: January 12, 2017, 11:21:07 AM »

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« Reply #111 on: January 12, 2017, 11:34:21 AM »

Still stunned Trump, who actually knows something about housing, couldn't find some real estate buddy to run HUD instead of this hack

If you want to hook Carson up with a job, make him Surgeon General. He'd be good at it!
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« Reply #112 on: January 12, 2017, 11:45:20 AM »

You guys seen that TV show where Jack Bauer is HUD sec and becomes president because of the line of succession? Would be hilarious if it happened with this guy.
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« Reply #113 on: January 12, 2017, 12:17:40 PM »


One of the many, many grand problems of dealing with the incoming Pussygrabber Presidency is that the superficial awfulness, which is almost comic, serves to obscure the underlying and ultimately destructive dangers and horror it represents.

Watching the incoming Trump administration is like a watching the antics of a stupid, violent, drunk on some reality TV show... and then realizing they're the sole parent for three young children.

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« Reply #114 on: January 12, 2017, 01:08:20 PM »

Harris asking CIA Director-designate the important questions... about gay marriage. lol
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« Reply #115 on: January 12, 2017, 01:53:10 PM »

If you want to hook Carson up with a job, make him Surgeon General. He'd be good at it!

While Carson is undoubtably a brilliant surgeon in his own right, his own abilities as a physician wouldn't translate into being an effective public health administrator; it's downright dangerous to have someone in the SG office who treats addiction as a moral fault and (presumably) doesn't support safe-sex programs, with the former being especially relevant in the face of the opioid epidemic.

Trump had no clue what HUD does.  We're talking about a guy who thought the EPA was called The Department of Environmental.  He probably just saw Urban and he thought it deals with "Urban" issues, so why not just put an "Urban" guy there.
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« Reply #116 on: January 12, 2017, 02:04:12 PM »

WSJ says Graham, McCain, and Rubio all claim to be undecided on whether to vote for confirmation of Tillerson:

http://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/hearings

Meanwhile, Paul says he's "inclined to support" Tillerson:

https://twitter.com/ByronTau/status/819605660744777729
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« Reply #117 on: January 12, 2017, 02:07:31 PM »

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« Reply #118 on: January 12, 2017, 02:16:53 PM »


wow just wow

As for Tillerson, he's probably a lot better than the alternatives.  Do people really want Corker to become SoS?  ugh
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« Reply #119 on: January 12, 2017, 02:27:03 PM »


Interesting
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« Reply #120 on: January 12, 2017, 02:27:38 PM »

If you want to hook Carson up with a job, make him Surgeon General. He'd be good at it!

While Carson is undoubtably a brilliant surgeon in his own right, his own abilities as a physician wouldn't translate into being an effective public health administrator; it's downright dangerous to have someone in the SG office who treats addiction as a moral fault and (presumably) doesn't support safe-sex programs, with the former being especially relevant in the face of the opioid epidemic.

Trump had no clue what HUD does.  We're talking about a guy who thought the EPA was called The Department of Environmental.  He probably just saw Urban and he thought it deals with "Urban" issues, so why not just put an "Urban" guy there.

Given that I'm still not sure Trump (or anyone on his transition team) understands what the DoE does, this seems terrifyingly plausible.
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« Reply #121 on: January 12, 2017, 02:41:13 PM »


I'll believe it if/when it happens
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« Reply #122 on: January 12, 2017, 04:24:57 PM »

LOL Carson. I just saw a brief clip of his hearing. I have a feeling this guy hasn't clue of anything in politics.

One of the nominees that concerns me least is actually Tillerson. I don't share all of his views, but he's certainly a smart and tough cookie. As a senator, I would lean to vote for him. Usually I'm not a fan of Rand Paul, but he did a good job there.

However, the best job to date did Al Franken when he grilled Sessions, who tried to downplay his anti-civil-rights record.
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« Reply #123 on: January 12, 2017, 04:27:18 PM »

It's hilarious that so many of you think Sessions is going to work in a white robe and hood.  Lunacy.
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« Reply #124 on: January 12, 2017, 04:53:54 PM »

It's hilarious that so many of you think Sessions is going to work in a white robe and hood.  Lunacy.

Don't be silly, he already tried to trade it for a black robe and gavel during the Reagan years.
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