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« on: January 11, 2017, 03:57:13 PM »

Is Cory Booker kind of the same as Mitt Romeny for his party in the sense that he's probably the most establishment candidate that is out there
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2017, 03:59:40 PM »

Romney's issue was that he came off as too stiff and wooden -- not sure who the equivalent of that will be in the 2020 field, if anyone. Also, 2016's record sky-high congressional reelection rate has me doubting that being establishment is all that bad.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2017, 04:11:43 PM »

Is Cory Booker kind of the same as Mitt Romeny for his party in the sense that he's probably the most establishment candidate that is out there

What does it mean to be the "most establishment"?  Party elites tend to back whichever of the candidates they think is going to win anyway, at least among those options who don't severely threaten their interests.  So, e.g., in the 2008 race, GOP elites tended to lean towards Romney when it looked like he stood a good chance of winning, and leaned towards McCain (despite having hated him in 2000) when it looked like he was going to win.

So if it looks like Booker is going to win the nomination in 2020, then "the establishment" will support him.  If it doesn't, then they won't.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2017, 05:48:50 PM »

First he's Jeb, now he's Mitt? No, Booker is Booker. He's not really analogous to any Republican.
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2017, 05:58:34 PM »

The problem is that booker has a clear anti-establishment, grass roots campaigning streak,  that took on Sharpe Jones, and challenged the Establishment that had wrecked Newark, but that is equally balanced out my views on education/venture capitalism etc.

I still feel that (myself included) a lot of progressives are too quick not to take to give him a chance
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2017, 05:58:48 PM »

Is Cory Booker kind of the same as Mitt Romeny for his party in the sense that he's probably the most establishment candidate that is out there

I always thought of Hillary as Democrat Romney.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2017, 06:00:26 PM »

First he's Jeb, now he's Mitt? No, Booker is Booker. He's not really analogous to any Republican.

He's analogous to rubio, a guy who didn't campaign for the base, yet thinks he deserve the support of it anyway by making televised glib statements. A lot of people want to ignore that Obama actually had a set of policies the base liked, the anti-war crowd for instance loved Obama's foreign policy, to them it wasn't naivete, it was a compelling reason to vote for him, and they still have the same anti-war stance today. Obama was more analogous to Cruz.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2017, 06:01:33 PM »

He could be as in he could be Generic D instead of Generic R like Romney. That could be enough if the only reason Democrats are unpopular are that Clinton was unpopular.
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2017, 06:26:51 AM »

So, Cory Booker and Ted Cruz voted on opposite sides of Bernie's prescription drug amendment.

Cruz was for, and Booker was against.

Seriously.
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2017, 06:53:39 AM »

First he's Jeb, now he's Mitt? No, Booker is Booker. He's not really analogous to any Republican.

He's analogous to rubio, a guy who didn't campaign for the base, yet thinks he deserve the support of it anyway by making televised glib statements. A lot of people want to ignore that Obama actually had a set of policies the base liked, the anti-war crowd for instance loved Obama's foreign policy, to them it wasn't naivete, it was a compelling reason to vote for him, and they still have the same anti-war stance today. Obama was more analogous to Cruz.

Eh not really; Booker actually ran something as Mayor of Newark, whilst Marco just had the generic climb up state politics, he just boosted himself by getting a senate seat on his first try.

Really, the Democrats Marco Rubio was John Edwards
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2017, 08:26:49 AM »

Booker is another Andrew Cuomo.
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2017, 09:35:57 AM »


Not quite.

I see him as a direct upgrade over Cuomo, someone who fills in the same niche/is of the same mould but is superior in every way
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2017, 12:32:09 AM »

Booker is WORSE than Cuomo.
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2017, 01:21:02 AM »

Nah. John Kerry is pretty definitively Democrat Mitt Romney.
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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2017, 01:58:42 AM »

I'm gonna enjoy this forum's meltdown when Booker wins the nomination. Grin
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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2017, 02:14:28 AM »

LOL? What a stupid question.

Romney was a moderate Republican, Booker is a radical left-wing Democrat voting against a highly respected Mattis and playing the out of touch race card against Sessions after praising him for his credentials on voting rights etc a few months ago. hypocrite.
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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2017, 02:17:02 AM »

I'm gonna enjoy this forum's meltdown when Booker wins the nomination. Grin

Won't happen. Independent media and the online progressive movement is only going to grow during Trump's term. He will be exposed for the anti-poor, corporate whore he is.
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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2017, 03:01:11 AM »

LOL? What a stupid question.

Romney was a moderate Republican, Booker is a radical left-wing Democrat voting against a highly respected Mattis and playing the out of touch race card against Sessions after praising him for his credentials on voting rights etc a few months ago. hypocrite.

Yea someone who proposes a voucher program for education is a radical left wing. You are delusional & in your own bubble.

Booker can show-boat all that he wants that doesn't make him left. Anyways he is your type of guy, ideologically you should support him. You'd be a Cory Booker fan. Only reason is are opposing him is that he opposed Trump's nominees.

Who cares who opposed whose nominees. Maybe you love worshiping Trump but personality cult, support or opposing people doesn't make one ideological left or right!
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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2017, 03:22:47 AM »

LOL? What a stupid question.

Romney was a moderate Republican, Booker is a radical left-wing Democrat voting against a highly respected Mattis and playing the out of touch race card against Sessions after praising him for his credentials on voting rights etc a few months ago. hypocrite.

Yea someone who proposes a voucher program for education is a radical left wing. You are delusional & in your own bubble.

Booker can show-boat all that he wants that doesn't make him left. Anyways he is your type of guy, ideologically you should support him. You'd be a Cory Booker fan. Only reason is are opposing him is that he opposed Trump's nominees.

Who cares who opposed whose nominees. Maybe you love worshiping Trump but personality cult, support or opposing people doesn't make one ideological left or right!

Don't feed the trolls! He's managed to convince himself that anyone who doesn't share his world view is a commie, so don't even bother.

The one troll talks to the other troll to ignore the sane person. Must be two Left-Wingers against a Conservative.
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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2017, 03:24:14 AM »

LOL? What a stupid question.

Romney was a moderate Republican, Booker is a radical left-wing Democrat voting against a highly respected Mattis and playing the out of touch race card against Sessions after praising him for his credentials on voting rights etc a few months ago. hypocrite.

Yea someone who proposes a voucher program for education is a radical left wing. You are delusional & in your own bubble.

Booker can show-boat all that he wants that doesn't make him left. Anyways he is your type of guy, ideologically you should support him. You'd be a Cory Booker fan. Only reason is are opposing him is that he opposed Trump's nominees.

Who cares who opposed whose nominees. Maybe you love worshiping Trump but personality cult, support or opposing people doesn't make one ideological left or right!

Don't feed the trolls! He's managed to convince himself that anyone who doesn't share his world view is a commie, so don't even bother.

The one troll talks to the other troll to ignore the sane person. Must be two Left-Wingers against a Conservative.

How old are you? Because you argue like a child & it is fun to read !
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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2017, 03:28:29 AM »

LOL? What a stupid question.

Romney was a moderate Republican, Booker is a radical left-wing Democrat voting against a highly respected Mattis and playing the out of touch race card against Sessions after praising him for his credentials on voting rights etc a few months ago. hypocrite.

Yea someone who proposes a voucher program for education is a radical left wing. You are delusional & in your own bubble.

Booker can show-boat all that he wants that doesn't make him left. Anyways he is your type of guy, ideologically you should support him. You'd be a Cory Booker fan. Only reason is are opposing him is that he opposed Trump's nominees.

Who cares who opposed whose nominees. Maybe you love worshiping Trump but personality cult, support or opposing people doesn't make one ideological left or right!

"there's nothing in that realm of progressive politics where you won't find me" - Cory Booker, July 2013.

The only one living in a bubble is you. Booker has a 2.6 ACU Rating. That's hard-core left-wing not even close to the middle of the road. Manchin has an ACU Rating of 30 e.g!

Trump is not even half as near to the Right as Obama (and Booker) are to the Left, that's the truth that you don't want to hear.
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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2017, 03:30:32 AM »

LOL? What a stupid question.

Romney was a moderate Republican, Booker is a radical left-wing Democrat voting against a highly respected Mattis and playing the out of touch race card against Sessions after praising him for his credentials on voting rights etc a few months ago. hypocrite.

Yea someone who proposes a voucher program for education is a radical left wing. You are delusional & in your own bubble.

Booker can show-boat all that he wants that doesn't make him left. Anyways he is your type of guy, ideologically you should support him. You'd be a Cory Booker fan. Only reason is are opposing him is that he opposed Trump's nominees.

Who cares who opposed whose nominees. Maybe you love worshiping Trump but personality cult, support or opposing people doesn't make one ideological left or right!

Don't feed the trolls! He's managed to convince himself that anyone who doesn't share his world view is a commie, so don't even bother.

The one troll talks to the other troll to ignore the sane person. Must be two Left-Wingers against a Conservative.

How old are you? Because you argue like a child & it is fun to read !

Funny, cause I thought the same about you. And you also don't seem to be very smart, cause "89" stands for my year of birth, what isn't that hard to see...
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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2017, 03:46:07 AM »

LOL? What a stupid question.

Romney was a moderate Republican, Booker is a radical left-wing Democrat voting against a highly respected Mattis and playing the out of touch race card against Sessions after praising him for his credentials on voting rights etc a few months ago. hypocrite.

Yea someone who proposes a voucher program for education is a radical left wing. You are delusional & in your own bubble.

Booker can show-boat all that he wants that doesn't make him left. Anyways he is your type of guy, ideologically you should support him. You'd be a Cory Booker fan. Only reason is are opposing him is that he opposed Trump's nominees.

Who cares who opposed whose nominees. Maybe you love worshiping Trump but personality cult, support or opposing people doesn't make one ideological left or right!

Don't feed the trolls! He's managed to convince himself that anyone who doesn't share his world view is a commie, so don't even bother.

The one troll talks to the other troll to ignore the sane person. Must be two Left-Wingers against a Conservative.

How old are you? Because you argue like a child & it is fun to read !

Funny, cause I thought the same about you. And you also don't seem to be very smart, cause "89" stands for my year of birth, what isn't that hard to see...

I mean obviously I couldn't care less about your names, you obviously act much younger than you are. And you are sometimes caught in your own world.

But anyways nice talking to you!
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