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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2017, 01:03:37 AM »

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/love-without-limits/201012/the-upside-polyamory

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-sexual-revolution-polyamory/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/living-single/201212/are-monogamous-relationships-really-better

Just posting some links.
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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2017, 01:05:00 AM »

Awful. But I guess the point of humanity is to have sex with anyone you can.

What a compelling argument about why people having multiple consentual, loving, kind relationships is evil.

It should be obvious.

Thats BS. You just can't name a reason to justify what your gut says.


Looking at history, and present examples, even hippie kind it should be obvious.
That never stopped you.

huh?
Left wing economic policy

I'll show myself out now.

The thing is neither left-wing economic policy, nor socialism has failed in history.

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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2017, 01:06:54 AM »

I can't tell if this thread is going better or worse than the last time we had it.
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« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2017, 01:08:06 AM »

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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2017, 01:09:42 AM »

Awful. But I guess the point of humanity is to have sex with anyone you can.

What a compelling argument about why people having multiple consentual, loving, kind relationships is evil.

It should be obvious.

Thats BS. You just can't name a reason to justify what your gut says.


Looking at history, and present examples, even hippie kind it should be obvious.
That never stopped you.

huh?
Left wing economic policy

I'll show myself out now.

The thing is neither left-wing economic policy, nor socialism has failed in history.

Roll Eyes

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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2017, 01:12:03 AM »


All those links are foremost stupid, and wrong.

http://scribol.com/lifestyle/alternative/the-psychiatric-impact-of-polygamy/

http://www.thenational.ae/uae/polygamy-can-negatively-affect-women-study-finds

http://studymoose.com/polygamy-its-negative-implications-and-consequences-essay
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« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2017, 01:14:04 AM »

Do we really need to discuss this again?

Sigh... If someone is for some reason interested in my take and missed my previous posts, I think it's not inherently unacceptable, but (from what I've heard of it) is often practiced in ways that entail other morally unacceptable attitudes.
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« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2017, 01:20:42 AM »

Awful. But I guess the point of humanity is to have sex with anyone you can.

What a compelling argument about why people having multiple consentual, loving, kind relationships is evil.

It should be obvious.

Thats BS. You just can't name a reason to justify what your gut says.


Looking at history, and present examples, even hippie kind it should be obvious.
That never stopped you.

huh?
Left wing economic policy

I'll show myself out now.

The thing is neither left-wing economic policy, nor socialism has failed in history.

Roll Eyes

Neo-liberals should really join the Republicans, but I'm a democrat, because I want to smoke pot, and have sex.

Roll Eyes So being skeptical of the practicality of full-blown socialism makes you a republican now?

I can't tell if this thread is going better or worse than the last time we had it.

That's a good question.

Those all either talk about a very specific kind of repressive polygamous(which isn't even the same as polyamory, google is your friend) relationship based entirely on rigid tradidional roles(one man effectively owning the women being the rule) and sexism or make mostly blind generalizations based on gut feelings.
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« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2017, 01:21:15 AM »

Do we really need to discuss this again?

Sigh... If someone is for some reason interested in my take and missed my previous posts, I think it's not inherently unacceptable, but (from what I've heard of it) is often practiced in ways that entail other morally unacceptable attitudes.

What attitudes.
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« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2017, 01:34:07 AM »

Awful. But I guess the point of humanity is to have sex with anyone you can.

What a compelling argument about why people having multiple consentual, loving, kind relationships is evil.

It should be obvious.

Thats BS. You just can't name a reason to justify what your gut says.


Looking at history, and present examples, even hippie kind it should be obvious.
That never stopped you.

huh?
Left wing economic policy

I'll show myself out now.

The thing is neither left-wing economic policy, nor socialism has failed in history.

Roll Eyes

Neo-liberals should really join the Republicans, but I'm a democrat, because I want to smoke pot, and have sex.

Roll Eyes So being skeptical of the practicality of full-blown socialism makes you a republican now?

I can't tell if this thread is going better or worse than the last time we had it.

That's a good question.

Those all either talk about a very specific kind of repressive polygamous(which isn't even the same as polyamory, google is your friend) relationship based entirely on rigid tradidional roles(one man effectively owning the women being the rule) and sexism or make mostly blind generalizations based on gut feelings.

polyamory: the practice of engaging in multiple sexual relationships with the consent of all the people involved.

polygamy:the practice or custom of having more than one wife or husband at the same time. Literally the same thing in marriage.

The same thing, with polyamory happens in the west, the key purpose of a relationship between different partners not for love or dedication but based upon sex, which promotes emotional hurt on both parties, particularly women.
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« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2017, 01:36:57 AM »

Awful. But I guess the point of humanity is to have sex with anyone you can.

What a compelling argument about why people having multiple consentual, loving, kind relationships is evil.

It should be obvious.

Thats BS. You just can't name a reason to justify what your gut says.


Looking at history, and present examples, even hippie kind it should be obvious.
That never stopped you.

huh?
Left wing economic policy

I'll show myself out now.

The thing is neither left-wing economic policy, nor socialism has failed in history.

Roll Eyes

Neo-liberals should really join the Republicans, but I'm a democrat, because I want to smoke pot, and have sex.

Roll Eyes So being skeptical of the practicality of full-blown socialism makes you a republican now?

I can't tell if this thread is going better or worse than the last time we had it.

That's a good question.

Those all either talk about a very specific kind of repressive polygamous(which isn't even the same as polyamory, google is your friend) relationship based entirely on rigid tradidional roles(one man effectively owning the women being the rule) and sexism or make mostly blind generalizations based on gut feelings.

polyamory: the practice of engaging in multiple sexual relationships with the consent of all the people involved.

polygamy:the practice or custom of having more than one wife or husband at the same time. Literally the same thing in marriage.

The same thing, with polyamory happens in the west, the key purpose of a relationship between different partners not for love or dedication but based upon sex, which promotes emotional hurt on both parties, particularly women.

Nein. Polyamory isn't an open relationship. An open relationship is purely for sex.
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« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2017, 01:38:39 AM »

I don't like the idea, and I would never want to do it myself, but what other people (consensually) do is none of my business.

If people take harmful drugs (cocaine,meth) consensually it's none of your business?

If they end up harming others as a result, then it's a different story.

Not that I want to get into this thread much more. It's clearly going the same way every other thread about this does...
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« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2017, 01:38:48 AM »

Awful. But I guess the point of humanity is to have sex with anyone you can.

What a compelling argument about why people having multiple consentual, loving, kind relationships is evil.

It should be obvious.

Thats BS. You just can't name a reason to justify what your gut says.


Looking at history, and present examples, even hippie kind it should be obvious.
That never stopped you.

huh?
Left wing economic policy

I'll show myself out now.

The thing is neither left-wing economic policy, nor socialism has failed in history.

Roll Eyes

Neo-liberals should really join the Republicans, but I'm a democrat, because I want to smoke pot, and have sex.

Roll Eyes So being skeptical of the practicality of full-blown socialism makes you a republican now?

I can't tell if this thread is going better or worse than the last time we had it.

That's a good question.

Those all either talk about a very specific kind of repressive polygamous(which isn't even the same as polyamory, google is your friend) relationship based entirely on rigid tradidional roles(one man effectively owning the women being the rule) and sexism or make mostly blind generalizations based on gut feelings.

polyamory: the practice of engaging in multiple sexual relationships with the consent of all the people involved.

polygamy:the practice or custom of having more than one wife or husband at the same time. Literally the same thing in marriage.

The same thing, with polyamory happens in the west, the key purpose of a relationship between different partners not for love or dedication but based upon sex, which promotes emotional hurt on both parties, particularly women.

Nein. Polyamory isn't an open relationship. An open relationship is purely for sex.

As is the purpose for polyamory.
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« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2017, 01:39:44 AM »

Awful. But I guess the point of humanity is to have sex with anyone you can.

What a compelling argument about why people having multiple consentual, loving, kind relationships is evil.

It should be obvious.

Thats BS. You just can't name a reason to justify what your gut says.


Looking at history, and present examples, even hippie kind it should be obvious.
That never stopped you.

huh?
Left wing economic policy

I'll show myself out now.

The thing is neither left-wing economic policy, nor socialism has failed in history.

Roll Eyes

Neo-liberals should really join the Republicans, but I'm a democrat, because I want to smoke pot, and have sex.

Roll Eyes So being skeptical of the practicality of full-blown socialism makes you a republican now?

I can't tell if this thread is going better or worse than the last time we had it.

That's a good question.

Those all either talk about a very specific kind of repressive polygamous(which isn't even the same as polyamory, google is your friend) relationship based entirely on rigid tradidional roles(one man effectively owning the women being the rule) and sexism or make mostly blind generalizations based on gut feelings.

polyamory: the practice of engaging in multiple sexual relationships with the consent of all the people involved.

polygamy:the practice or custom of having more than one wife or husband at the same time. Literally the same thing in marriage.

The same thing, with polyamory happens in the west, the key purpose of a relationship between different partners not for love or dedication but based upon sex, which promotes emotional hurt on both parties, particularly women.

Nein. Polyamory isn't an open relationship. An open relationship is purely for sex.

As is the purpose for polyamory.
No, if that were the case, why do asexual engage in it?
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« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2017, 01:39:51 AM »

I don't like the idea, and I would never want to do it myself, but what other people (consensually) do is none of my business.

If people take harmful drugs (cocaine,meth) consensually it's none of your business?

If they end up harming others as a result, then it's a different story.

Not that I want to get into this thread much more. It's clearly going the same way every other thread about this does...

What if it does not hurt others but only themselves? It's still none of your business when it can ruin their lives or they could kill themselves?
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« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2017, 02:12:01 AM »


polyamory: the practice of engaging in multiple sexual relationships with the consent of all the people involved.

polygamy:the practice or custom of having more than one wife or husband at the same time. Literally the same thing in marriage.

The same thing, with polyamory happens in the west, the key purpose of a relationship between different partners not for love or dedication but based upon sex, which promotes emotional hurt on both parties, particularly women.


...Those are very different things. For one thing, Polygamy isn't open, and is codified in marriage. The abuse happens in a few crazy rural mormon towns out west where religion, creepy gender roles, etc. are common. Modern polyamory is more of a city/suburb thing, based on a bunch of people deciding that they want relationships with multiple people. It turns out the creepy abuse is a reflection of a regressive culture that views women as completely devoid of rights.(Monogamous relationships were once full of quite similar abuse, but the society's that practiced it were the ones that happened to progress as a society.

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« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2017, 02:41:22 AM »

I don't like the idea, and I would never want to do it myself, but what other people (consensually) do is none of my business.

If people take harmful drugs (cocaine,meth) consensually it's none of your business?

If they end up harming others as a result, then it's a different story.

Not that I want to get into this thread much more. It's clearly going the same way every other thread about this does...

What if it does not hurt others but only themselves? It's still none of your business when it can ruin their lives or they could kill themselves?

In that case they should seek and receive help, but preventing people from using hardcore drugs in the first place is never simple, and you're likely to encounter the "don't tell me what to do" attitude. I don't see the connection to polyamory, though, unless you're talking about the possible threat of STDs, since simply having a relationship with multiple people doesn't directly endanger their physical health. As for whether or not it's psychologically healthy, that I couldn't tell you.
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« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2017, 03:38:39 AM »


polyamory: the practice of engaging in multiple sexual relationships with the consent of all the people involved.

polygamy:the practice or custom of having more than one wife or husband at the same time. Literally the same thing in marriage.

The same thing, with polyamory happens in the west, the key purpose of a relationship between different partners not for love or dedication but based upon sex, which promotes emotional hurt on both parties, particularly women.


...Those are very different things. For one thing, Polygamy isn't open, and is codified in marriage. The abuse happens in a few crazy rural mormon towns out west where religion, creepy gender roles, etc. are common. Modern polyamory is more of a city/suburb thing, based on a bunch of people deciding that they want relationships with multiple people. It turns out the creepy abuse is a reflection of a regressive culture that views women as completely devoid of rights.(Monogamous relationships were once full of quite similar abuse, but the society's that practiced it were the ones that happened to progress as a society.



No monogamous relationships caused progress in terms of individual rights in terms of a relationship and one's dignity.
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« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2017, 03:45:48 AM »

Ever since watching parts of "Sister Wives", I have absolutely no problem with these kinds of relationships (I didn't have much of a problem with it before either), if they are in a consenting manner.

These polygamous relationships and families are often much better than "traditional" monogamous relationships when it comes to family cohesion etc.
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« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2017, 04:53:17 AM »
« Edited: January 14, 2017, 08:28:54 AM by Intell »


polyamory: the practice of engaging in multiple sexual relationships with the consent of all the people involved.

polygamy:the practice or custom of having more than one wife or husband at the same time. Literally the same thing in marriage.

The same thing, with polyamory happens in the west, the key purpose of a relationship between different partners not for love or dedication but based upon sex, which promotes emotional hurt on both parties, particularly women.


...Those are very different things. For one thing, Polygamy isn't open, and is codified in marriage. The abuse happens in a few crazy rural mormon towns out west where religion, creepy gender roles, etc. are common. Modern polyamory is more of a city/suburb thing, based on a bunch of people deciding that they want relationships with multiple people. It turns out the creepy abuse is a reflection of a regressive culture that views women as completely devoid of rights.(Monogamous relationships were once full of quite similar abuse, but the society's that practiced it were the ones that happened to progress as a society.



The thing is, polyamory in many a cases, does often result in like a cult-like status for one person, while others feel left out, in many cases, increases chances of abuse towards, but not exclusively women.

Many a cases, causes negative experiences towards those participating, and disregards a relationship for love and commitment, but from what I understand polyamory are sexual relationships, and for sex?, disregarding relationships for one's commitment, and fellowship towards each other. Monogamous relationships or should be based upon commitment, are much more stable, causes lot less problems, and are inherently better.



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« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2017, 05:01:37 AM »

Awful. But I guess the point of humanity is to have sex with anyone you can.

What a compelling argument about why people having multiple consentual, loving, kind relationships is evil.

It should be obvious.

Thats BS. You just can't name a reason to justify what your gut says.


Looking at history, and present examples, even hippie kind it should be obvious.
That never stopped you.

huh?
Left wing economic policy

I'll show myself out now.

The thing is neither left-wing economic policy, nor socialism has failed in history.

Roll Eyes

Neo-liberals should really join the Republicans, but I'm a democrat, because I want to smoke pot, and have sex.

Roll Eyes So being skeptical of the practicality of full-blown socialism makes you a republican now?



Of course not, you can be skeptical of full-blown socialism, but you rolled your eyes at left-wing economic policy, therein socialist policies, or at least policies of social democratic natures, as having failed around Europe, Australia, and Canada. Conturies that had, historically been socialistic-orientated economics, with social democracies, have been one of the most-functioning and most equal conturies. Take New Zealand (which even verged towards a planned socialist economy in many ways), pre-Lange, and Scandinavian Nordic Centuries, UK pre thatcher even in Latin America and Asia, social democratic policies, derived from socialist morals/ideals, or socialist policies in them implemented left-wing, socialist parties have uprooted people from poverty, and exploitation. I would go far to say, that has been the cases even in many communist states of Africa, Cuba, and Asia, though that's is only a fragment and portion of socialism is.

Rolling your eyes against left-wing economic policy, and rolling your eyes at any aspect of socialism, would make you a right-winger, neoliberal and a republican.

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« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2017, 06:00:57 AM »

This thread is even better than the Ho Chi Minh one
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« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2017, 10:09:30 AM »

Unacceptable. Could lead to so many abuses.
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« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2017, 10:12:29 AM »

Like marijuana, it's something that is fine to experiment with while you're in college. 

But once you graduate..... 
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« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2017, 11:13:21 AM »

it's  OK
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