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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2017, 05:28:56 PM »

Very mixed. On one hand, he's witty and a very active poster on the other place. But he can be  obnoxious, and his behavior sometimes bears similarities to popular guy at school who's unafraid of belittling those who are unpopular.
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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2017, 05:30:44 PM »

FF, for reasons already pointed out.
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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2017, 05:41:18 PM »

i find him annoying
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« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2017, 07:22:48 PM »

I'm going to ignore Antonio's anti-Canadian statements...

Lief is a FF but the OP is definitely a HP, and definitely a moron. Lief is a FF despite his commentary during the primaries.


Explain to me how I'm an moron for expressing the true sentiment of Democratic constituents during the primary. 
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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2017, 07:46:22 PM »

One of the better posters during this catastrophe, especially with his criticism of the Bernie movement that is sinking the Democratic Party down the drain.

I was under the impression that Obama presided over humiliating midterm losses and horrific defeats in the state legislatures. Frankly if Bernie wants to destroy the Democratic Party then he arrived a little too late to the, er, party.

Anyway, Lief is a FF for being interesting and high energy, which is more than can be said for most Dem establishment-supporting types.

Yeah, I love how neoliberal Democrats whose control over the party has led to its complete obliteration and the rise of a quasi-fascist narcissistic buffoon are adamant that letting anyone else take the reins would spell its doom. Roll Eyes
Let it go.

Seriously? Antonio (!) is the one who needs to "let it go" here?

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Yeah, but I really don't want to get into a pissing match with you, which you really seem to be wanting.  So good day.
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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2017, 07:52:45 PM »

I'm not sure if he was joking when he called me a white supremacist.
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« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2017, 08:58:31 PM »

I find his appropriation of liberal rhetoric in the defense of the Democrats' reactionary faction amusing.
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« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2017, 09:02:25 PM »

[Introspective Moment] But... If Marx is correct, and capitalism is an essentially revolutionary (and anti-religious) force, is it really Sanders that was the reactionary?
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« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2017, 10:13:40 PM »

99% of his posts make me laugh, and his criticism of the progressive/populist left is usually completely valid. Massive FF.
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« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2017, 08:10:25 AM »

A most affably talented humorous troll. FF
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« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2017, 01:06:41 PM »

Regularly likes my posts on AAD=FF
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« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2017, 01:26:50 PM »

I don't know enough about him to have an opinion.
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« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2017, 03:01:06 PM »



I've seen other posters say this before, but I guess I just don't get it.  I mean no disrespect by this, but I just don't get what makes his posts funny.  I understand that he's often trying to be ironic, but that isn't necessarily funny.  What is a good example of a Lief funny?

(Then again I'm not sure anyone here has been able to be funny on a consistent basis since Lunar left, unless you count Aizen's sock accounts.  I mean, other than in a "laughing at them rather than with them" way.)
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« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2017, 04:11:08 AM »

I agree with Morden on Lief
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« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2017, 04:38:10 AM »

*spits on floor*
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« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2017, 01:16:28 AM »

I love Lief.

I hated him in 2012, but I realize now I was stupid then.

Massive FF.
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« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2017, 01:28:20 AM »

I don't care for Lief.

One of the better posters during this catastrophe, especially with his criticism of the Bernie movement that is sinking the Democratic Party down the drain.

I was under the impression that Obama presided over humiliating midterm losses and horrific defeats in the state legislatures. Frankly if Bernie wants to destroy the Democratic Party then he arrived a little too late to the, er, party.

Anyway, Lief is a FF for being interesting and high energy, which is more than can be said for most Dem establishment-supporting types.

Yeah, I love how neoliberal Democrats whose control over the party has led to its complete obliteration and the rise of a quasi-fascist narcissistic buffoon are adamant that letting anyone else take the reins would spell its doom. Roll Eyes
Looooool,
Go continue to support a socialist who has no program except saying "the system is broken, muh elites."

I love how you're from France but somehow still think "socialist" is some kind of insult.
I don't consider "socialist" as a kind of insult, I do consider socialism/marxism as a discredited ideology.

Your preferred alternative being...what, exactly? Managerial centrism with socially liberal characteristics? Because if there's anything I think of when I think of "not discredited", it's the Clintons, the Third Way, and the Lib Dem Orange Book!
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« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2017, 02:55:32 AM »

HP.
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« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2017, 03:53:41 AM »

I voted HP because of style, tone, and substance.

I've had some disagreements with various members of the Forum before, but the final straw is when you shoot out a PM to someone where maybe there was some heated debate, which I have both sent and received from members of ALL political avatars and ideology, and you don't even get the common courtesy of a reply, even when the message is sent within the context of "maybe I was a bit OTT on my post" or something of that nature....

Maybe my impression will change now that the GE season is over, and I did find his Trump-Putin baby avatar a bit amusing at times, the schtick got old, and I would rather have conversations with real people than fake internet personas....

Call me old Skool or whatever, but one of the things I love about the Forum is dialogue and debate and not simply one liner smack-downs....
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« Reply #44 on: January 17, 2017, 01:29:14 PM »

I voted HP because of style, tone, and substance.

I've had some disagreements with various members of the Forum before, but the final straw is when you shoot out a PM to someone where maybe there was some heated debate, which I have both sent and received from members of ALL political avatars and ideology, and you don't even get the common courtesy of a reply, even when the message is sent within the context of "maybe I was a bit OTT on my post" or something of that nature....

Maybe my impression will change now that the GE season is over, and I did find his Trump-Putin baby avatar a bit amusing at times, the schtick got old, and I would rather have conversations with real people than fake internet personas....

Call me old Skool or whatever, but one of the things I love about the Forum is dialogue and debate and not simply one liner smack-downs....
That is your final straw.  Not being responded too over a PM.  Hell most of my PM get deleted upon receiving them.  Most are spam.  That isn't a reason to dislike someone.
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« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2017, 01:38:31 PM »

FF, if you don't take him seriously, which he clearly doesn't want to be.
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« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2017, 02:28:58 PM »

I blocked him back when every one of his posts was just "Trump!" and then some combination of intentional misspellings.  I assumed he ran off to AAD.
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« Reply #47 on: January 17, 2017, 04:20:58 PM »

Lief's a bit nuts. More an HP.
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« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2017, 08:30:15 PM »

I voted HP because of style, tone, and substance.

I've had some disagreements with various members of the Forum before, but the final straw is when you shoot out a PM to someone where maybe there was some heated debate, which I have both sent and received from members of ALL political avatars and ideology, and you don't even get the common courtesy of a reply, even when the message is sent within the context of "maybe I was a bit OTT on my post" or something of that nature....

Maybe my impression will change now that the GE season is over, and I did find his Trump-Putin baby avatar a bit amusing at times, the schtick got old, and I would rather have conversations with real people than fake internet personas....

Call me old Skool or whatever, but one of the things I love about the Forum is dialogue and debate and not simply one liner smack-downs....
That is your final straw.  Not being responded too over a PM.  Hell most of my PM get deleted upon receiving them.  Most are spam.  That isn't a reason to dislike someone.

Well firstly I don't dislike anyone on the Forum, unless they are a Neo-Nazi or bigoted troll, and when they occasionally pop up they get run out of town pretty quickly once their true colors manifest....

Hell, most of y'all that are of legal drinking age that imbibe, I would love to hang out and grab a beer or two, regardless of political affiliation, or if not chat over a cup of coffee, since the main reason we all hang out on this Forum in particular, is a shared interest, passion, and knowledge of politics.

I'm sure Lief's a great guy in person, just like most of the rest of all y'all---- although personally I found his online persona during the '16 primaries and GE extremely OTT....

Shoot, maybe by comment on the PM was a bit of excessive hyperbole, and some people probably don't enjoy my frequently excessively long posts....

We are now in 2017, so just goin' with the flow and always willing to reexamine and revise previous opinions from an extremely contentious 2016 election year.
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« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2017, 09:48:09 AM »

An obvious troll, possibly a sock.  HP for sure.
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