Update for Everyone V: Born Under A Bad Sign

[NOVA Green]

How significant is the pay difference without being specific?

$4/Hr difference, not including potential shift differential and OT.

Jumps to $5.50/Hr difference after 90 days, and $6/Hr after 6 Months.

Pretty big gap, basically a lead position running a crew of temps, and responsible for quality, quantity, safety, training, etc....

I know someone whose been working there in a similar position for a bit over a year, and they have a pretty good reputation for being a decent employer based upon her experience, as well as others that I know in this downstate Oregon Mill Town.

Never would have imagined 5-10 years ago that I would move from working in office based environments to manufacturing, but as they say in the current economy people go through roughly six major career changes in their lifetime.

Thanks Sanchez---- we don't always see eye to eye, but I appreciate the support.

[NOVA Green]

So, just got offered another job today, after having previously accepted another job offer last week...

Now I need to choose which of the manufacturing jobs I want to go with...

One pays significantly better, is closer, but has longer and odd shifts and is harder factory work---- the other pays less, is a 20 minute commute, and is a bit more of an assembly job, with greater potential for internal promotion down the line.

Which job do I go with

You might evaluate it based on future outcomes. For example, what would your likely position and salary look like in 2 years? 5 years? Is the lower paying job today likely to overtake the other one on the time scale of a couple of years? Is either job likely to leave you out of it in a few years due to company performance or your satisfaction level?

Thanks Muon!

That reminds me of one of my Dad's favorite sayings: "Planning is understanding and assessing the futurity of current decisions".

The difficult part for me is trying to assess either as long-term career decisions.

As an individual, who literally went from the Mailroom to a key Manager in a flagship corporate business services account in 20 years, until I was recently laid off as part of a major corporate cost-reduction initiative, it's a bit hard to wrap my brain around the concept of moving into a Management position in a Manufacturing setting (Further down the line).

There are some obvious differences when it comes to the technical and educational background required between these various industries.

Ultimately both jobs are risky in a Medium term sense, if one were to look at the overall decline of Manufacturing in America over the past few decades.

Both companies are dependent upon the demand from their immediate customers, in the case of the higher paying job there is a large share of Government contracts related to DoD activities, which in theory might be a safer bet considering Dod Procurement activities. In the case of the latter, it is for a contractor for one the largest Global Tech companies, and having spent several decades providing business services for that client, I know well how fickle these companies can be when it comes to shutting down entire production lines and shifting operations elsewhere, where they have essential corporate tax havens.

That being said, it does get me back into a Facility where I have extensive experience (15 years), and would have the ability to network down the line to get a job with another supplier (Or even as a direct hire).

So--- still working it through in my mind, and by virtue of just thinking it out and typing through the response, is a helpful exercise.

Much appreciated Sir!!!!

[Mr. Smith]

...I'm probably gonna lose my driver's license soon.

Thanks to one f&*( up and one bit of bad luck, I'm gonna have to go to the DMV to take the written test instead of being able to go online.

...Ugh, just ugh! It took me forever to pull it off [test stress], and now I'll have just a month.

[SATW]

Yo, so happy, three of my favorite country singers all released their new albums within a few days of each other. Time to music binge!

[Tender Branson]

I'll go on a mountainbike tour now and collect a lot of blueberries and mushrooms.

I'll visit my mum tomorrow and she'll make a great blueberry cake and mushroom gulash with dumplings out of it. Can't wait for this stuff, because I'm not a great cook myself ...

[Mike Thick]

Everybody, GO SEE THE EMOJI MOVIE!!! It is your civic duty.

[afleitch]

Chest work at gym finally paying off

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I cannot hear out of my right ear again. I guess I got to go to CVS for my bi-yearly flooding.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Got a new piggy today!  Her name's Grace.





This is the happiest I've felt in a long time.

[JA]

Omg she's adorable, Scott!

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I have pneumonia during the week I have to write my final paper, find storage for some friends possessions that I've been holding, and move out of my apartment. It's gonna be a hell of a week.

[Santander]

I unironically said "the individual is the smallest minority"

[JA]

I have pneumonia during the week I have to write my final paper, find storage for some friends possessions that I've been holding, and move out of my apartment. It's gonna be a hell of a week.

That sounds like absolute hell. I'm probably mistaken, but I thought pneumonia was more of a winter time disease? I hope you're able to find the time and energy to write a good final paper.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Grace's truly lovely, Scott!

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Overall I haven't been that depressed in a long time.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I have pneumonia during the week I have to write my final paper, find storage for some friends possessions that I've been holding, and move out of my apartment. It's gonna be a hell of a week.

That sounds like absolute hell. I'm probably mistaken, but I thought pneumonia was more of a winter time disease? I hope you're able to find the time and energy to write a good final paper.

It's actually Bronchitis, the CVS MinuteClinic got it all wrong. But my papers coming along and the anti-biotics work so it's way better now.

[Mike Thick]

I have pneumonia during the week I have to write my final paper, find storage for some friends possessions that I've been holding, and move out of my apartment. It's gonna be a hell of a week.

That sounds like absolute hell. I'm probably mistaken, but I thought pneumonia was more of a winter time disease? I hope you're able to find the time and energy to write a good final paper.

It's actually Bronchitis, the CVS MinuteClinic got it all wrong. But my papers coming along and the anti-biotics work so it's way better now.

Get well soon, dude. Bronchitis is pretty nasty.

[JA]

I have pneumonia during the week I have to write my final paper, find storage for some friends possessions that I've been holding, and move out of my apartment. It's gonna be a hell of a week.

That sounds like absolute hell. I'm probably mistaken, but I thought pneumonia was more of a winter time disease? I hope you're able to find the time and energy to write a good final paper.

It's actually Bronchitis, the CVS MinuteClinic got it all wrong. But my papers coming along and the anti-biotics work so it's way better now.

Get well soon, dude. Bronchitis is pretty nasty.

[JA]

My mom has to stay overnight at the hospital for further observation. She went there because for like two weeks she's been having constant heart flutters or whatever that's called. Considering my dad passed suddenly in December due to heart complications, I'm really worried.

According to the internet, it's most likely stress related, which she has a lot of lately. It's rarely anything serious, which is good. So, I'm less worried now, but it's still scary. Hopefully it's just stress.

[Coraxion]

^ Best wishes.

[JA]

^ Best wishes.

Thank you, Cora

[Mike Thick]

I just heard my mom mumbling "Kushner, Kushner, Kush-Kushner" in her sleep.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

My mom has to stay overnight at the hospital for further observation. She went there because for like two weeks she's been having constant heart flutters or whatever that's called. Considering my dad passed suddenly in December due to heart complications, I'm really worried.

According to the internet, it's most likely stress related, which she has a lot of lately. It's rarely anything serious, which is good. So, I'm less worried now, but it's still scary. Hopefully it's just stress.

Sure, it can be scary.  I hope things go well for her.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Prayers for your mom, Jacobin. I'm sure hoping she'll be out soon

[Mike Thick]

Prayers for your mom, Jacobin. I'm sure hoping she'll be out soon